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Posted: 11/1/2004 10:31:08 AM EST
For my 16" Bushy. What should I expect to pay?
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 10:36:43 AM EST
I just recieved my YHM specter length FF handguard from Brightflashlights. I paid $97 for it and it is very sturdy! It is longer than the standard carbine guard (mine is 9.75" and the carbine is like 7"). Installation was a snap and customer service was excellent. Look them up in the indistry forum, you won't be dissapointed. I'll post pics as soon as I get some taken.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 10:39:21 AM EST

Originally Posted By bigkracka:
For my 16" Bushy. What should I expect to pay?



Depends what length you want. I paid $89 for my YHM lightweight carbine length from Bravo Company USA.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 11:42:22 AM EST
I have a carbine so I thought it was only one length? Just something to replace the handguards I currently have.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 12:01:05 PM EST
IF your going to replace your current handguards, may I suggest going for aluminum quad rail systems versus the cheap plastic rail systems. Bushmaster makes a nice one that comes in 2 pieces so you dont need to remove your front sight and gas tube. I believe you can pick it up for $179.00 http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/bmas/yhm-9670.asp
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 12:02:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/1/2004 12:03:41 PM EST by mcgrubbs]
Surefire M73

$160-$175
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 12:06:16 PM EST

Originally Posted By mcgrubbs:
Surefire M73

$160-$175



+1

Of course, that presumes you are not looking for a FF rail.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 12:06:52 PM EST
I have the YHM lightweight 4 rail on mine and really like it. I got mine from www.jtacsupply.com
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 12:10:48 PM EST
How about this The 2-piece rail for $109 No gunsmithing required
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 12:17:54 PM EST

Originally Posted By bigkracka:
For my 16" Bushy. What should I expect to pay?



Need more info. Free floated or not??
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 12:19:10 PM EST
another vote for the YHM 2 piece...
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 12:23:58 PM EST
I think the YHM 2-piece handguards are an incredible bargain for what you get. It is as KAC like as you can get for about 1/3 of the price. If I didn't FF everything I own, I'd have no problem getting YHM 2-piece handguards.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 12:32:59 PM EST

Originally Posted By bigkracka:
How about this The 2-piece rail for $109 No gunsmithing required



If you don't want to mess around with your barrel nut, don't mind the lack of FF, these are definitely worth your money. All the YHM stuff I have is excellent quality for the $$.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 12:39:09 PM EST

Originally Posted By DOA:

Originally Posted By bigkracka:
For my 16" Bushy. What should I expect to pay?



Need more info. Free floated or not??

I don't think I want a free float. Is there a compelling reason too get it? Or isn't that for match rifles?
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 12:42:42 PM EST
Free float will show benefit an nearly all setups, especailly ones that use slings and/or bipods.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 12:43:46 PM EST

Originally Posted By mongo001:
Free float will show benefit an nearly all setups, especailly ones that use slings and/or bipods.

No need for a sling ot bipod. Any other benefits? Wait, don't I have to remove my front site post? If so I don't want to bother with it. The 2-piece is probably the way to go.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 12:45:22 PM EST
and fore grips too. It just makes you rifle more modular.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 12:45:41 PM EST
YHM 2 piece the same thing Bushmaster sells way better than Surefire and better cost
I got one from Denny's guns GTS for 129 and one from Bright Flashlights for 120 Shipped.
You won't be sorry, but they don't come with panels.... I used the Magpul panels.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 12:48:46 PM EST
The FIRSH is highly under rated. It is a free float unit and is very solid due to its dual locking nut and one piece design. I have one on a LW carbine and it works great. It weighs the same as the YHM LW unit, is true 1913 spec, and only costs $99.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 1:02:00 PM EST

Originally Posted By triburst1:
The FIRSH is highly under rated. It is a free float unit and is very solid due to its dual locking nut and one piece design. I have one on a LW carbine and it works great. It weighs the same as the YHM LW unit, is true 1913 spec, and only costs $99.



All new YHM rails are true milspec.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 1:12:54 PM EST

Originally Posted By bigkracka:

Originally Posted By mongo001:
Free float will show benefit an nearly all setups, especailly ones that use slings and/or bipods.

No need for a sling ot bipod. Any other benefits? Wait, don't I have to remove my front site post? If so I don't want to bother with it. The 2-piece is probably the way to go.



There are FF options out there that don't require a FSB removal. Troy MRF, KAC RASII, ARMS SIR, GG&G?? (can't remember) and probably more. If the FSB removal is the only thing holding you back from FFing, you have no excuse now.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 1:14:19 PM EST

Originally Posted By mongo001:

Originally Posted By bigkracka:

Originally Posted By mongo001:
Free float will show benefit an nearly all setups, especailly ones that use slings and/or bipods.

No need for a sling ot bipod. Any other benefits? Wait, don't I have to remove my front site post? If so I don't want to bother with it. The 2-piece is probably the way to go.



There are FF options out there that don't require a FSB removal. Troy MRF, KAC RASII, ARMS SIR, GG&G?? (can't remember) and probably more. If the FSB removal is the only thing holding you back from FFing, you have no excuse now.

lol, nah I don't want to buy tools and screw with barrel removal either. I just scored a YHM 2-piece off of EE anyway.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 1:15:12 PM EST
yhm
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 1:29:49 PM EST
YHM 2 piece
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 2:12:44 PM EST
YHM - just got one and rocks!!
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 2:13:26 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/1/2004 2:21:19 PM EST by SHIPSNIPE1]

Originally Posted By triburst1:
The FIRSH is highly under rated. It is a free float unit and is very solid due to its dual locking nut and one piece design. I have one on a LW carbine and it works great. It weighs the same as the YHM LW unit, is true 1913 spec, and only costs $99.



Dual locking nut? Do you mean that tiny screw that is supposed to tighten the FF around the barrel nut?
Mine never really locked it in position, even with locktite. I think if the upgraded the screw to something meatier they might get the desired effect. Couldn't be bothered to mess with it anymore after repositioning it after every session, sold mine.

ETA: I don't think they are true 1913 spec, at least they don't make that claim. It would be a big plus if they were, but most systems aren't either.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 2:33:13 PM EST

Originally Posted By AFSOC:
YHM 2 piece the same thing Bushmaster sells way better than Surefire and better cost
I got one from Denny's guns GTS for 129 and one from Bright Flashlights for 120 Shipped.
You won't be sorry, but they don't come with panels.... I used the Magpul panels.



Ansd trust me you want panals I got the scar to prove it,.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 2:52:49 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/1/2004 2:58:45 PM EST by supertrucker]
I heard the ff was better so I went with YHM on my LMT upper and other gear through Paul, BRAVO CO. for $89.95 ran short on money after ordering my 16'' LE LMT and Dennys LMT lower and crane stock.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 2:57:25 PM EST
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 2:57:41 PM EST

Originally Posted By SHIPSNIPE1:

Originally Posted By triburst1:
The FIRSH is highly under rated. It is a free float unit and is very solid due to its dual locking nut and one piece design. I have one on a LW carbine and it works great. It weighs the same as the YHM LW unit, is true 1913 spec, and only costs $99.



Dual locking nut? Do you mean that tiny screw that is supposed to tighten the FF around the barrel nut?
Mine never really locked it in position, even with locktite. I think if the upgraded the screw to something meatier they might get the desired effect. Couldn't be bothered to mess with it anymore after repositioning it after every session, sold mine.

ETA: I don't think they are true 1913 spec, at least they don't make that claim. It would be a big plus if they were, but most systems aren't either.



Evidently you have one of the earlier models. My FIRSH uses TWO larger screws and locks up very tight. I tried to torque it loose with the vertical fore grip and it wouldn't even budge.

The Oly website states that the FIRSH is picatinny standard and my KAC accessories fit it perfectly.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 3:11:39 PM EST
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 3:27:37 PM EST

Originally Posted By AFSOC:
but they don't come with panels.... I used the Magpul panels.



How many panels do I need to cover 3 sides of a carbine length tube? I ordered 3 but I don't know how long they are.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 3:49:59 PM EST
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 4:22:47 PM EST
I'm getting a Daniel Defense. I was planning on getting a YHM but then I figured if I am going to build a top notch upper I might as well pay the extra $120 and get a top notch rail system.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 5:28:59 PM EST
Grant, I have a show this w/e and I'll get a chance to try some YHM new models with some TD VG. I'll keep you all advised.

As you all undoubtedly know I have done the reviews on them, www.ar15reviews.com, I have not updated the info on the Pic specs, but the reader can get a feel for both in their respective reviews. HTH.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 5:38:35 PM EST

Originally Posted By mongo001:

Originally Posted By bigkracka:

Originally Posted By mongo001:
Free float will show benefit an nearly all setups, especailly ones that use slings and/or bipods.

No need for a sling ot bipod. Any other benefits? Wait, don't I have to remove my front site post? If so I don't want to bother with it. The 2-piece is probably the way to go.



There are FF options out there that don't require a FSB removal. Troy MRF, KAC RASII, ARMS SIR, GG&G?? (can't remember) and probably more. If the FSB removal is the only thing holding you back from FFing, you have no excuse now.



Would you like to elaborate more on the different products? I'm planning on getting a FF my rifle, but thought I would have to pay an extra $100 or so to have a gunsmith work on it due to the permanent flash hider. I was not aware they made FF tubes that did not require the removal of the FSB so any help would be appreciated.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 6:10:02 PM EST
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 8:00:56 PM EST
+1 YHM
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 8:50:42 PM EST

Originally Posted By bigkracka:

How many panels do I need to cover 3 sides of a carbine length tube? I ordered 3 but I don't know how long they are.


That depends... Which Magpul panels did you get?

If you ordered the XT panels, then 3 will do it. If you got the older version, there was a 5 rail and a 15 rail version (I believe). In that case, it's 9 for the 5-rail and 3 for the 15 rail.

I really REALLY like the XT panels on my DD forend.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 9:12:22 PM EST
Is there any reason to get a non FF rail system over a FF one? Most of the YHM free floats are only $10 more than their non FF counter parts. I am making a A4 clone what should I use?
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 9:14:28 PM EST
YHM...got mine from bravo company...most bang for the buck IMHO.

Link Posted: 11/2/2004 3:20:09 AM EST
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 3:37:34 AM EST
+1 more for YHM handguard, got mine from BrighFlashlight.









TG
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 3:48:38 AM EST
I bought the YHM 2 peice (just replace regular issue handguards) from Bravo Company for $103. and I think they are the same ones Bushmaster sells for 179.00 They serve my purpoes and don't move an inch. Great value. Also on the short barreled carbines I think the FF are not that beneficial. My opinion.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 5:47:10 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/2/2004 5:49:52 AM EST by BrightFlashlights]
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 6:47:06 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/2/2004 6:50:06 AM EST by C4iGrant]
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