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Posted: 9/9/2003 2:19:09 AM EDT
Saw this:
www.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd/product.asp?dept%5Fid=180709&sku=SCP%2D525&imgid=&mscssid=9WJJRNQEBWXD9MNMMC9STXVAW9500439

I have an A2, I bought the A2 for iron sights. But it would be neat to throw a scope on it every once and a while just for grins. I am not looking for precise $300 optics here. just something to have fun with at the range. and this thing just mounts to the handel.

How much of a cheap piece of crap is this thing for $50. Any one own(ed) one?
Link Posted: 9/9/2003 2:56:27 AM EDT
Any mickey mouse Tasco, Simmons, or Leapers in HIGHER magnification (as in 3x9) will do a better job at the same cost or less. While these look nifty they lack the magnification that your looking for, as seems ya just want a better view at the range or plinking, ya'd be better off w/ a $40 Tasco 3x9 from Wally world. Although not as compact, probably every bit a good a scope, and they won't require batteries, adding constantly to the cost of owning them. If your after illuminated optics, go Aimpoint ML, ML2 or EOTech...... My 2cents, Mike
Link Posted: 9/9/2003 5:26:03 AM EDT
I have had one for about 6 months, mounted on an armalite---no problems to date JIMBO
Link Posted: 9/9/2003 7:19:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/9/2003 7:21:26 AM EDT by zhukov]
I have a cheapo NcStar 3-9x42 with illuminated reticle for my AR. It's not great, but the light recoil of the AR shouldn't tax this scope too much for general purpose shooting. With this scope, you at least have variable magnification. Here's some places selling NcStar stuff: [url]http://www.gungoodies.com/ncstar.html[/url] [url]http://www.thehuntersmall.com/scopesoptics.html[/url] [url]http://www.cdnninvestments.com/scopes.html[/url] You can also buy the plain scope and the carry handle adapter. Shop around though. And a picture of my RRA with said NcStar: [img]http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data/500/22519AR-15_scope_medium.jpg[/img] Edited to add: As far as cheap scopes go - the bullets hit where I aim at - I'm not the best shot, but I don't feel like the scope is the limiting factor. Besides - it leaves more money for ammo and more guns !
Link Posted: 9/9/2003 7:31:04 AM EDT
How wrong can you go for $50? I usually equate $$ to ammo, so you can only go 250 rounds wrong. Go for it.
Link Posted: 9/9/2003 7:41:31 AM EDT
Originally Posted By zhukov: I have a cheapo NcStar 3-9x42 with illuminated reticle for my AR. It's not great, but the light recoil of the AR shouldn't tax this scope too much for general purpose shooting. With this scope, you at least have variable magnification. Here's some places selling NcStar stuff: [url]http://www.gungoodies.com/ncstar.html[/url] [url]http://www.thehuntersmall.com/scopesoptics.html[/url] [url]http://www.cdnninvestments.com/scopes.html[/url] You can also buy the plain scope and the carry handle adapter. Shop around though. And a picture of my RRA with said NcStar: [url]http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data/500/22519AR-15_scope_medium.jpg[/url] Edited to add: As far as cheap scopes go - the bullets hit where I aim at - I'm not the best shot, but I don't feel like the scope is the limiting factor. Besides - it leaves more money for ammo and more guns !
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zhukov, How do you like the illuminated reticle? And how do you like the crosshairs thickness for informal paper punching, too thick? too thin? just right?
Link Posted: 9/9/2003 7:58:15 AM EDT
Hey, I wouldn't call it a piece of crap if it ends up doing what you want it to do. For fun range use, this is what I'm looking at: [url]http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=61639[/url]
Link Posted: 9/9/2003 8:00:51 AM EDT
You can get the same scope for about $10 cheaper on eBay (I paid $37.88 plus shipping). There's a bunch of them there. For plinking out to about 100 yards, it has worked just fine. The illuminated crosshairs are only useful in low light, so I haven't really made use of them yet.
Link Posted: 9/9/2003 8:01:07 AM EDT
Originally Posted By G-CODE: zhukov, How do you like the illuminated reticle? And how do you like the crosshairs thickness for informal paper punching, too thick? too thin? just right?
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The reticle crosshair thickness is about on par with any other plex-reticle scope I've ever looked though. I have no complaints. The illuminated reticle has seven brightness settings, but I think all but the lowest one or two are probably too bright. I don't know if I'll ever need the illuminated reticle, but for that price - why not ?
Link Posted: 9/9/2003 8:05:36 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By zhukov:
Originally Posted By G-CODE: zhukov, How do you like the illuminated reticle? And how do you like the crosshairs thickness for informal paper punching, too thick? too thin? just right?
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The reticle crosshair thickness is about on par with any other plex-reticle scope I've ever looked though. I have no complaints. The illuminated reticle has seven brightness settings, but I think all but the lowest one or two are probably too bright. I don't know if I'll ever need the illuminated reticle, but for that price - why not ?
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Thanks, I might have to try one on my AR truck gun, and save my ACOG for another "High Speed" setup.
Link Posted: 9/9/2003 8:08:53 AM EDT
no no no no I have a $35 ncStar 3-9x scope on my AR. I have tried for many months to sight it in. The recoil of the AR, light as it is, tears the ncStar up. It will not shoot any groups and if you bore sight it, you can see it start walking by about 10-20 rounds.. I would advoid the ncStar brand if I was you. VMAX
Link Posted: 9/9/2003 9:37:35 AM EDT
Originally Posted By VMAX12: no no no no I have a $35 ncStar 3-9x scope on my AR. I have tried for many months to sight it in. The recoil of the AR, light as it is, tears the ncStar up. It will not shoot any groups and if you bore sight it, you can see it start walking by about 10-20 rounds.. I would advoid the ncStar brand if I was you. VMAX
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Acording to Cheaperthandirt, the manufacturer is Black Warrior. When did ncStar come in the picture?? Do they make Black Warrior?
Link Posted: 9/9/2003 12:02:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/9/2003 12:06:26 PM EDT by sfcret]
my experience with cheap scopes, is it's waste of money....they have serious parallax issues with them, won't hold a zero, the construction is typical third world garbage.... after a while you'll be disappointed with it...and will spend more money to replace that POS scope. if you buy quality the first time around, you won't need to spend more money. buying a more expensive scope will seems like you're spending a lot, but you won't be buying others to replace it. typical a good quality scope will run you in the 2-400 dollar range. the saying you get what you pay for, holds true when it comes to scopes. I mounted a IOR M2 scope on my G3 clone, and it is well worth the bucks. you might want to serious consider something that will be of good quilty, instead of something that is cheap. even if it's for 'plinkering"
Link Posted: 9/9/2003 12:39:55 PM EDT
Clearview Investments has the 4x20's that fit on the carry handle w/BDC(bullet drop compensator) for $35. You really can't beat that price. It's made by Lepers but what the heck, the optics are bright and clear. I'm sure Centerfire Systems(Clearviews' sister company???) would have the same deal. Check them out, talk at ya' later. TN.Frank
Link Posted: 9/9/2003 12:59:50 PM EDT
The best bet in a scope is a used Leupold. Look at any gun show & be flexible as to the exact model. It doesn't matter if you are the 12th owner, have no box or receipt, all Leupolds have a lifetime warranty. Just return it to the factory and they will fix it free. You only have to buy this scope once. I have bought at least 7 Leupolds (mostly 6.5x20 VariX IIIs for varmint guns) this way and have saved $$$ over buying new. -TriggerFish
Link Posted: 9/9/2003 10:52:17 PM EDT
Optics - in my own experience you get what you pay for, and quality is relative to the price - kind of like champagne (sparking wine) - however, some like the cheap stuff and it works for them...
Link Posted: 9/10/2003 5:17:22 AM EDT
One of the problems with some of these cheap scopes is the crosshairs are too thick.
Link Posted: 9/10/2003 5:36:20 AM EDT
Old thread on "cheap scopes": [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=18&t=157099&w=searchPop[/url] Like most things in life, ya get what ya pay for........ Mike
Link Posted: 9/10/2003 6:03:24 AM EDT
Originally Posted By mjohn3006: Saw this: [url]http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd/product.asp?dept%5Fid=180709&sku=SCP%2D525&imgid=&mscssid=9WJJRNQEBWXD9MNMMC9STXVAW9500439[/url] How much of a cheap piece of crap is this thing for $50. Any one own(ed) one?
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I bought this same scope from CDNN for half the price. The flips are are extremely flemsy, but the scope itself is decent. Don't forget that old saying...you get what you pay for. Kev
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