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Link Posted: 5/17/2013 9:38:10 PM EST
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Link Posted: 5/18/2013 12:12:40 PM EST
Any places with it in stock or soon to be? If not, what's the backorder looking like?

Great looking rail, interested to see how it handles the heat.

How do you guys think this rail system compares to the Fortis Rev http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=3366? Specifically in terms of heat dispersion, but also overall.

Last thing, 12" or 14" on a 16" barrel?

Thanks.
Link Posted: 5/18/2013 12:33:15 PM EST
Link Posted: 5/18/2013 12:33:35 PM EST
Link Posted: 5/18/2013 12:36:13 PM EST
Originally Posted By Stickman:
Originally Posted By hr177:
Any places with it in stock or soon to be? If not, what's the backorder looking like?

Great looking rail, interested to see how it handles the heat.

How do you guys think this rail system compares to the Fortis Rev http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=3366? Specifically in terms of heat dispersion, but also overall.

Last thing, 12" or 14" on a 16" barrel?

Thanks.


I'm kind of surprised it isn't up on Rainiers site yet, it should be.  Weaponoutiffters had them in stock, so did someone else I can't remember.  If you email Centurion Arms, I know they have them, but their web guy hasn't put them up yet, so that is another option.  

I don't think it does really compare to the Fortis (I own multiples of both).  The Fortis uses a stock barrel nut, the CMR uses an extended barrel nut for better rigidity and heat dispersion though this may not be a big deal for many people.  The Fortis has a hybrid Keymod/ 1913 system, the CMR uses a more modular approach giving a smooth surface with a 1913 rail on top plus the ability to use attachment points and accessories which mount direct to the rail.  The Fortis spends less time on a CNC machine, which means it is cheaper to manufacturer, and cheaper for the consumer.  The CMR was designed without cost in mind, making the best rail without compromise based on the training and operational experiences of the owner (active duty SEAL).  





They are in stock at ROGTAC right now.

http://www.rogtac.com/
Link Posted: 5/18/2013 12:39:05 PM EST
Originally Posted By Stickman:
Centurion Arms .308

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7312/8746789786_8194ca2b22_o.jpg


Nice.  Now I want a .308 even more.......
Link Posted: 5/18/2013 3:21:20 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/18/2013 3:22:28 PM EST by hr177]
Originally Posted By Stickman:
Originally Posted By hr177:
Any places with it in stock or soon to be? If not, what's the backorder looking like?

Great looking rail, interested to see how it handles the heat.

How do you guys think this rail system compares to the Fortis Rev http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=3366? Specifically in terms of heat dispersion, but also overall.

Last thing, 12" or 14" on a 16" barrel?

Thanks.


I'm kind of surprised it isn't up on Rainiers site yet, it should be.  Weaponoutiffters had them in stock, so did someone else I can't remember.  If you email Centurion Arms, I know they have them, but their web guy hasn't put them up yet, so that is another option.  

I don't think it does really compare to the Fortis (I own multiples of both).  The Fortis uses a stock barrel nut, the CMR uses an extended barrel nut for better rigidity and heat dispersion though this may not be a big deal for many people.  The Fortis has a hybrid Keymod/ 1913 system, the CMR uses a more modular approach giving a smooth surface with a 1913 rail on top plus the ability to use attachment points and accessories which mount direct to the rail.  The Fortis spends less time on a CNC machine, which means it is cheaper to manufacturer, and cheaper for the consumer.  The CMR was designed without cost in mind, making the best rail without compromise based on the training and operational experiences of the owner (active duty SEAL).  





Thanks. Great picture, by the way.

Glad to hear that about the heat dispersion, how do you think it stands up to the NSR if you don't mind me asking?

Originally Posted By m6z:
They are in stock at ROGTAC right now.

http://www.rogtac.com/


Thanks man. Think I'm about to order one.
Link Posted: 5/18/2013 5:21:16 PM EST
Where can I buy a complete Centurion Arms .308?
Link Posted: 5/18/2013 7:06:56 PM EST
Link Posted: 5/18/2013 8:44:31 PM EST
Will the 5.56 version mount up to a Mega billet upper without a mod?

Second,  did I miss the weight of these (5.56) if not, does anybody know (with barrel nut)?

Thanks, RR
Link Posted: 5/18/2013 9:54:54 PM EST
Originally Posted By Stickman:
Centurion Arms .308

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7312/8746789786_8194ca2b22_o.jpg


Right click, save as.

You are the shiznit at what you do sir, Thanks!
Link Posted: 5/18/2013 11:07:04 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/18/2013 11:09:17 PM EST by hr177]
Originally Posted By Royal_Rounder223:
Will the 5.56 version mount up to a Mega billet upper without a mod?


I would like to know this as well.

Also, 12" or 14" on  16" barrel?

I really like the flush look of the 14" CMR on a 14.5" barrel, but I would prefer to stay at 16" for ballistics (and to swap out breaks/flash hiders), so I figured I might as well go 12" rail on a 16" barrel if the barrel is already protruding significantly.

The most I would ever install on this would be night vision, 1-4x (perhaps higher), /acog/red dot, laser, grip, and lights. I'm assuming 12" should be enough real estate.




Barrel length and rail length here? I like.

Thanks.
Link Posted: 5/19/2013 12:25:00 AM EST
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Link Posted: 5/19/2013 12:57:55 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/19/2013 12:29:14 PM EST by hr177]
Originally Posted By Stickman:
Originally Posted By hr177:


Barrel length and rail length here? I like.

Thanks.


That is a 14" CMR on a 16" barrel.  



Thanks man.

Any take on the 12" vs 14" for a 16" barrel?

Edit: will the CMR 5.56 work on a 300 blackout?
Link Posted: 5/19/2013 12:56:56 PM EST
Link Posted: 5/19/2013 2:00:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/19/2013 2:20:28 PM EST by hr177]
Originally Posted By Stickman:
Originally Posted By hr177:

Any take on the 12" vs 14" for a 16" barrel?

Edit: will the CMR 5.56 work on a 300 blackout?



I own both the 12" and 14" CMR on 16" barreled weapons, and like them both.  I'm not sure there is a clear winner depending on what you do and your own likes and dislikes.  I can try to shoot a picture of both of them next to each other if I remember.  

Yes, 5.56 and 300BLK will use the same CMR rail without any trouble.  


No worries, appreciate it though. I think I'm going with a 14" as I don't expect this to end up being a particularly lightweight build.

Two things. The BCG in the 3 gun 16" revolution... is it the same as the the Rainier thunderbolt? And would the CMR fit on the SR-15?
Link Posted: 5/19/2013 3:19:10 PM EST
Any pics of a 12 on a 12.5" upper?
Link Posted: 5/19/2013 6:23:59 PM EST
Link Posted: 5/19/2013 6:24:13 PM EST
Link Posted: 5/19/2013 7:40:47 PM EST
Originally Posted By Stickman:
Originally Posted By Dissident:
Any pics of a 12 on a 12.5" upper?


Oddly enough I've got the parts next to me...  



Well....bring it on!

Link Posted: 5/19/2013 9:32:33 PM EST
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Link Posted: 5/19/2013 9:36:37 PM EST
Originally Posted By Stickman:
Originally Posted By Dissident:
Originally Posted By Stickman:
Originally Posted By Dissident:
Any pics of a 12 on a 12.5" upper?


Oddly enough I've got the parts next to me...  



Well....bring it on!



Too many projects, not enough time.....



Stick, you are such a tease.  Not cool man, not cool.  









Link Posted: 5/19/2013 9:41:57 PM EST
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Link Posted: 5/20/2013 12:51:34 AM EST
I think Stickman really likes this new handguard.
Link Posted: 5/21/2013 11:35:47 AM EST
Is the bipod stud available anywhere yet?
Link Posted: 5/21/2013 4:52:25 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/21/2013 7:41:13 PM EST by Forester458]
Received this today, 12" .308 version going on a DPMS with a 16" barrel  




Note the notch at the rear of the top rail, more about this in a second:




This little gem goes in there and straddles the gas tube - no idea why to be honest?




Almost there:




Mounted up:




Close-up:




Finished:




Another shot:




No Stickman, but you get the idea:




I am pretty disappointed in one thing - there are no anti-rotation tabs like on the 5.56 version, just that weird little piece that fits in that notch. No idea at this point why that is, or what exactly that piece is for, but I was really expecting the external anti-rotation tabs when I ordered it. Then I saw Stickman's pics of the Centurion .308 that didn't have that notch at all, and Rainier's website shows the notch but not the other little piece. Ah well.....

Other than that everything looks great, fits perfect, solid, no problems going together and it feels nice and light.
Link Posted: 5/21/2013 8:52:38 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/21/2013 8:53:49 PM EST by weaponoutfitters]
Link Posted: 5/21/2013 9:08:11 PM EST
That makes sense, thanks. Here's one more:

Link Posted: 5/22/2013 9:37:05 AM EST
Originally Posted By weaponoutfitters:
Anti rototation tabs are nice to have, but not really needed with proper torque where needed IMHO.  I'm guessing with the wild variations in .308 upper receivers, Centurion Arms made the call to skip the anti rotation tabs on the .308 variants.

I'm thinking that little tab will allow Centurion to create anti-rotation tabs to fit specific types of .308 uppers in the future, starting with the most popular options and then creating different anti rotation tabs as needed.

I just got my batch of 5.56 CMRs in, and man, I can see now why the 14" is so darn popular.  I swapped my early production 12" CMR off and put on a 14"... with a 14.7" barrel with pinned/welded Surefire suppressor mount, this thing is the heat!

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24650948/Guns%20and%20Advertisement/3N1C1613%20-%20800.jpg


Nice.  That's the pic I was looking for.

Link Posted: 5/22/2013 10:29:40 AM EST
Originally Posted By weaponoutfitters:
Anti rototation tabs are nice to have, but not really needed with proper torque where needed IMHO.  I'm guessing with the wild variations in .308 upper receivers, Centurion Arms made the call to skip the anti rotation tabs on the .308 variants.

I'm thinking that little tab will allow Centurion to create anti-rotation tabs to fit specific types of .308 uppers in the future, starting with the most popular options and then creating different anti rotation tabs as needed.

I just got my batch of 5.56 CMRs in, and man, I can see now why the 14" is so darn popular.  I swapped my early production 12" CMR off and put on a 14"... with a 14.7" barrel with pinned/welded Surefire suppressor mount, this thing is the heat!

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24650948/Guns%20and%20Advertisement/3N1C1613%20-%20800.jpg


That looks great.  In your estimate, will the 14" work with a 14.5" barrel with a Surefire mount and can?  Looks like it would be really tight.
Link Posted: 5/22/2013 9:26:48 PM EST
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 1:17:11 PM EST
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 3:16:30 PM EST



Originally Posted By Forester458:


In stock:



http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop%2Fbrowse&category=new


14" on the way!



 
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 3:27:49 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/23/2013 3:29:51 PM EST by chapperjoe]
I think this is the best looking and most functional handgun I've ever ever seen.

awesome job centurion.

But f me, 280$ for a tube system?  does it come with panels????  anything???

Link Posted: 5/23/2013 5:12:30 PM EST
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Link Posted: 5/23/2013 8:34:31 PM EST
Just got my 5.56 14" rail in the mail today.  Looks great even not mounted.  Pics will follow tomorrow when my vltor mur1a receiver comes in.

Now when are the rail covers being released?  And what material are they polymer or G10?





Link Posted: 5/23/2013 9:57:23 PM EST
Link Posted: 5/24/2013 1:44:59 PM EST
Originally Posted By Stickman:
Originally Posted By Dissident:
Originally Posted By Stickman:
Originally Posted By Dissident:
Any pics of a 12 on a 12.5" upper?


Oddly enough I've got the parts next to me...  



Well....bring it on!




Too many projects, not enough time.....



found any spare time yet??  even just a mock up..
Link Posted: 5/24/2013 2:34:19 PM EST
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Link Posted: 5/25/2013 1:11:41 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/25/2013 1:14:57 PM EST by jukeboxx13]








Okay so I understand being right handed and using a thumb over bore grip you can activate the light at 1 o'clock, but does the front sight get in the way since its moved back like that?

 






ETA; Excellent wallpaper.

 
Link Posted: 5/25/2013 1:14:11 PM EST



Originally Posted By weaponoutfitters:



Originally Posted By chapperjoe:

I think this is the best looking and most functional handgun I've ever ever seen.



awesome job centurion.



But f me, 280$ for a tube system?  does it come with panels????  anything???







When Monty first floated the idea of a premium slick rail to me, with its own proprietary, and smarter mounting system... I thought he was crazy!  



However, the amount of thought he put into the design of the rail along with help from one of the designers who worked on the SCAR program, and the fact he refused to cut any corners with the production of the rail system really shows.  



There are many, many places he could have cut materials down to cut down on costs and and weight dramatically... but instead added material so that these rails would be a balance of both as light as possible, while being as strong as possible.  



It seems to me that many rails are being just thrown out there on the market with the goal of chasing light weight in order to win marketing wars.  The Centurion Arms founder fights and wins in shooting wars, so this rail was designed to be battle ready first.



https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/977604_419103678126098_1442790022_o.jpg



The interior has strengthening ribs for mounting and rigidity.  Lesser companies would have cut this out for significant weight and cost savings.


Well said I am going to have to build myself a new upper.

 
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