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Posted: 6/18/2014 3:04:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/18/2014 3:06:48 PM EST by HBPredhunter]
I have been trying to track down an authentic colt carry handle scope, do I have any other options for a good quality carry handle scope?
I would prefer the colt to keep it looking authentic, but who are we kidding, a real xm should be full auto and the real moderator is impossible to find and controlled.
So I am good with anything that is decent quality and functional for my a1 upper.

I recently saw a local biker cop with what looked to be a SP1 mounted on the bike, and he had a 1.5x or 2x acog on it, that's a cool idea, but spendy
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 4:48:47 PM EST
I don't know if you are looking for magnification or not but check out this thread for a kinda cool, kinda retro cheap option if you don't need magnification.



I'm not sure if they are still available from the source listed but I have seen them come up once in a while on the EE. There are kinda-sorta like reproductions of the Colt scope out there for reasonable or prepare to spend $200-$300 for an actual Colt one.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 6:58:09 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Banshee35:
I don't know if you are looking for magnification or not but check out this thread for a kinda cool, kinda retro cheap option if you don't need magnification.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t311/hilljacknm/s18.jpg

I'm not sure if they are still available from the source listed but I have seen them come up once in a while on the EE. There are kinda-sorta like reproductions of the Colt scope out there for reasonable or prepare to spend $200-$300 for an actual Colt one.
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Dammit banshee now i have to have one!
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 7:52:48 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/18/2014 9:16:53 PM EST by Banshee35]
Sorry, they are kinda cool but it's the white ring sight like they used on the first generation FN PS90 and they kind of suck as a day time optic as it tends to wash out on light colored backgrounds or low light.

They originaly had tritium vials that also did a "T" reticle but it is long dead though even with them it still sucked on my PS90. The thread has many work arounds for adding fiber optics to improve the dot and a guy was even making blocks for them that would go right in the front of it on a carry handle.

Here's a link for a guy who has the sights in stock and you can get the fiber optic block from a guy in the thread I mentioned
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 9:40:42 AM EST
If you can find one an Israeli Eyal scope, or a Beeman SS2 might be a good option for you.
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 9:57:11 AM EST
NightForce made a darn good carry handle scope.


Link Posted: 6/19/2014 10:52:39 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Flash66:
NightForce made a darn good carry handle scope.


http://images.photo2.walgreens.com/232323232%7Ffp53834%3Enu%3D3%3A96%3E974%3E239­%3E2%3B8797432%3A237ot1lsi
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Seems like I remember that being made for Nightforce by the same company (Eyal?) That made those Izzy scopes. Am I crazy? I don't feel like checking 10 years of archives though...
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 11:30:43 AM EST
Along the same line, is there a carry handle mount for an Aimpoint T1?
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 12:08:18 PM EST
Are the Colt 4x20 scopes even worth what they go for as far as overall quality is concerned? This thread just got me thinking.
I'd really like to have one but I wouldn't want to pay $400 for a $200 scope that says 'Colt' on it.

Is it just a collectability thing?
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 12:17:36 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Are the Colt 4x20 scopes even worth what they go for as far as overall quality is concerned? This thread just got me thinking.
I'd really like to have one but I wouldn't want to pay $400 for a $200 scope that says 'Colt' on it.

Is it just a collectability thing?
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Yeah, I think it is. They are decent quality, but I don't see them being worth the kind of coin they are bringing these days frankly. Still, if you really want one, unfortunately your choices are limited.
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 1:49:00 PM EST
The beeman scopes are superb, I wish I had one. Ive played with a couple, very nice optics and adjustable focus. Some are even illuminated fiber optically.
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 2:50:54 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Morg308:


Seems like I remember that being made for Nightforce by the same company (Eyal?) That made those Izzy scopes. Am I crazy? I don't feel like checking 10 years of archives though...
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Originally Posted By Morg308:
Originally Posted By Flash66:
NightForce made a darn good carry handle scope.


http://images.photo2.walgreens.com/232323232%7Ffp53834%3Enu%3D3%3A96%3E974%3E239­%3E2%3B8797432%3A237ot1lsi


Seems like I remember that being made for Nightforce by the same company (Eyal?) That made those Izzy scopes. Am I crazy? I don't feel like checking 10 years of archives though...


That scope was never made for or by NightForce. It is a ripoff. It is a great quality scope but they ripped off the NightForce name.

When I wrote NightForce about the scope they told me it was a fraud. They offered to buy it from me for $400 to get it off the streets.

I have several Colt scopes and I think this is much better quality. It is solid and the glass is very clear and it is made very well. The BDC is perfect. However, it was not made by NightForce.

If I could find another one for sale I would buy it in heartbeat because it is such a well made scope. I suspect it was made by the same company that made the Israeli battle scopes because there are similarities.
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 2:58:36 PM EST
Another good carry handle scope is the Trijicon TA-44S. It is lightweight and of course very solid.





Link Posted: 6/19/2014 3:13:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By jtb0311:
If you can find one an Israeli Eyal scope, or a Beeman SS2 might be a good option for you.
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Article on the SS2 at Pyramid Air website: click here


it looks pretty close to, but not exactly like, the alleged Nightforce scope mentioned earlier.
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 3:25:53 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/19/2014 3:29:28 PM EST by Morg308]
Of course the Tao1nsn is another possibility - I would love to put one on my soon to be completed BHDish carbine. I am really vacillating between the 603 upper however and the Colt LMG (A2 w/no FA) upper.

FWIW Hakko made the original Japanese Colt scopes, and they made others for years - some had lit reticles...but I think they are out of business. My point is, if you can find a used Hakko scope on ebay, you'd be G2G.

I've always like the look of this rifle:

Link Posted: 6/19/2014 5:24:53 PM EST
Great thread. I really like the idea of a magnified ACOG on a carry handle.

Does anyone know when this optic would have first hit the field ?
My guess is that the red dot or occluded eye thingee came along earlier.
But, in other words, just how retro
could you really get with a carry handle ACOG ?
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 5:31:22 PM EST
I don't know, but I have pic of one on a 723 somewhere. I just don't know when the Acog came out - the early Aimpoints were first. Now that I see that pic again I am thinking about duplicating that carbine again. It's always been one of my favorites, and I have everything but the Acog, and I just got hired tonight to start a new job monday, so it's conceivable I could actually afford one pretty soon...
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 8:19:32 PM EST
The early Trijicon is another option, like this one


I have an El-Op on my IDF clone and somebody had them for like $100 a good while back. I wish I would have known about them then as I got mine for like $200 but great little rugged scope if you can find one.
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 9:52:11 PM EST
I installed a TA33-8 ACOG on my SP-1 carbine and love it. Also have a Chinese clone of the Colt optic that fits the carry handle nicely and seems to do its job well. Just don't use it anymore since I installed the ACOG.
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 11:30:29 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Are the Colt 4x20 scopes even worth what they go for as far as overall quality is concerned? This thread just got me thinking.
I'd really like to have one but I wouldn't want to pay $400 for a $200 scope that says 'Colt' on it.

Is it just a collectability thing?
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There are still deals to be had, just picked one up o the EE for $200 shipped a month ago. it was the later 4x20 Colt scope but still they sell for $350.00-$400.00.


ETA: A.R.M.S. makes Aimpoint carry handle mounts for both the Micro and older models, I have several 1 on a BHD 723 clone and one I use on a A2 uppered M4.
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