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Posted: 2/11/2006 11:33:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/11/2006 11:47:43 PM EDT by sylwesterski]
Hello
My first AR-15, which one should I buy/build?
How about Bushmaster 20in target model upper receiver with Bushmaster lower with two stage competition trigger or just buy Colt HBar target model.
Link Posted: 2/11/2006 11:34:36 PM EDT
I chose a Bushmaster. I intend to SHOOT it and was on a budget. If I wanted something a bit more "collectorish" or that held its resale a bit better I for damn sure would get a Colt.

That said, I dont sell my guns. I shoot them. Resale means nothing to me.
Link Posted: 2/11/2006 11:37:20 PM EDT
Bushmaster
Link Posted: 2/11/2006 11:58:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Hylton:
Bushmaster



+1

h/w, if you like the ponies and less $$$$s in your pocket, get the colt

RRA is also a great choice for the $$$s
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 12:33:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/12/2006 12:34:37 AM EDT by Variablebinary]
I'd hold off and wait for more information on the Colt 1020 piston carbine

Link Posted: 2/12/2006 12:35:05 AM EDT
Bushmaster
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 12:40:46 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Variablebinary:
I'd hold off and wait for more information on the Colt 1020 piston carbine




Thats pretty ugly. I'd get a Sig instead.....


Link Posted: 2/12/2006 12:43:01 AM EDT
The Colt is interesting, but I would buy a regular AR-15 for now.

The DI AR is a 40 year proven system, the Colt piston system is brand new.
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 12:44:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Originally Posted By Variablebinary:
I'd hold off and wait for more information on the Colt 1020 piston carbine




Thats pretty ugly. I'd get a Sig instead.....







Lets see what the 556 looks like in August when it drops into dealers.

In a perfect world there will be a Colt 1020, SIG 556, and FN SCAR sitting side by side in my safe

Throw in an M1A for safe measure
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 12:47:15 AM EDT

Originally Posted By STG77:
The Colt is interesting, but I would buy a regular AR-15 for now.

The DI AR is a 40 year proven system, the Colt piston system is brand new.



And the piston gas system found in the Sig is a variant of the AK gas system, a system thats been around for roughly 60 years.

I would think Colt would have no problems implementing a piston system. Its not a new design by any means.
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 12:47:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Variablebinary:

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Originally Posted By Variablebinary:
I'd hold off and wait for more information on the Colt 1020 piston carbine




Thats pretty ugly. I'd get a Sig instead.....







Lets see what the 556 looks like in August when it drops into dealers.

In a perfect world there will be a Colt 1020, SIG 556, and FN SCAR sitting side by side in my safe

Throw in an M1A for safe measure



I like the way you think.
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 7:02:37 AM EDT
Bushmaster
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 7:08:17 AM EDT
I'd buy Colt

You can get a top flight AR15 (Law Enforcement series) for $1,000- $1,100 brand new and own the best off the rack carbine available anywhere. (here)

Bushmaster makes great stuff as well, but if its only to be one - its a Colt

Do some reading around here and you will find as many opinions as members, but also a wealth of valuable information describing the differences, the pricing, the sources to buy them and how to use them properly

welcome aboard!!
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 7:09:15 AM EDT
Bushmaster, RRA, etc.

Don't wait for Colt's piston upper weapon!

Do you really think they will sell it to us LOWLY CIVILIANS any way!!!
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 8:27:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SnprPSG1:

Do you really think they will sell it to us LOWLY CIVILIANS any way!!!








Get a Colt, you wont be sorry


Link Posted: 2/12/2006 8:36:21 AM EDT
Besides the fact that this thread is stupid because it comes up every day and maybe a search would have answered your question. The only thing you will get out of this thread is personal preference.

Personal presference is like assholes, everyone has them, just some stink more than others.
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 8:58:59 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Variablebinary:
I'd hold off and wait for more information on the Colt 1020 piston carbine

i28.photobucket.com/albums/c240/charnmike/17258-1020.jpg



I wonder if any of these uppers are in the field yet? One of the Sandboxes?

Or just in the "planned for production" stage?

I also curious if this is a by-product of the SCAR solicitation, or as a response to Hk, L-W, POF, etc.?

Not sure it matters.
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 9:02:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By edwin247:
Besides the fact that this thread is stupid because it comes up every day and maybe a search would have answered your question. The only thing you will get out of this thread is personal preference.

Personal presference is like assholes, everyone has them, just some stink more than others.



^^^^^ This REPLY is a DUPE ^^^^^^

Give the noobs a break...... "We'll tell you what to think and what to say." ...where have I heard that before??
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 9:28:08 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 9:30:05 AM EDT
Colt Colt Colt Colt then buy a Bushmaster, they are all good...........
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 10:02:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Stickman:

Originally Posted By sylwesterski:
Hello
My first AR-15, which one should I buy/build?
How about Bushmaster 20in target model upper receiver with Bushmaster lower with two stage competition trigger or just buy Colt HBar target model.




As you can see, people quickly turn to their favorite brand, and half the replies are talking about carbines, pistons, or something else that has nothing to do with your question.

Bushmaster and Colt both make a nice rifle. Personal preference is a large portion of what you will find for replies given. Colt does more QC checks that any other company I'm aware of, but that doesn't make it the only player in the game.

You are already talking about dropping in different parts, so I would suggest a slightly different avenue of approach. Why not look at some of the custom builds? A WOA barrel, and nice two stage trigger can make for a fantastic shooting weapon, and won't be much outside of the price range you are already looking at. A custom weapon, for what you are looking to do, instead of an off the shelf weapon that you will have to modify....... its just an idea to keep you thinking.



My thoughts exactly.


If you don't want a custom, I'd get the Colt. Bushmaster has had far too many QC issues lately in my opinion.
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 10:47:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By redfisher:

Originally Posted By Variablebinary:
I'd hold off and wait for more information on the Colt 1020 piston carbine

i28.photobucket.com/albums/c240/charnmike/17258-1020.jpg



I wonder if any of these uppers are in the field yet? One of the Sandboxes?

Or just in the "planned for production" stage?

I also curious if this is a by-product of the SCAR solicitation, or as a response to Hk, L-W, POF, etc.?

Not sure it matters.



It doesnt look like the piston Colt is SCAR spec, but without question it's a pushback against HK's 416 which has gobbled up quite a few dollars. I have no doubt these things will end up in civilian hands as soon as a 16" model is made, while the 416 is unlikely to go public. Then there is POF...

So many piston standards...not all will survive
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 10:53:11 AM EDT
Bushy, unless you want a logo and a few details you will never notice.
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 11:03:29 AM EDT
Bushmaster (Or RRA)
Just my opinion. Choose what works best for YOU.
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 11:04:29 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 11:06:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By dpmmn:

Originally Posted By SnprPSG1:

Do you really think they will sell it to us LOWLY CIVILIANS any way!!!




photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=26022



Get a Colt, you wont be sorry





Until you try and use mil-spec FCG parts.
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 11:23:32 AM EDT
Colt isn't worth their ridiculous price.
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 11:49:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Variablebinary:
I'd hold off and wait for more information on the Colt 1020 piston carbine

i28.photobucket.com/albums/c240/charnmike/17258-1020.jpg




Seems kind of cool. According to some from SHOT, this won't be available to civies. Then again, neither are the LEO rifles, but they are commonly available.
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 11:52:37 AM EDT
Vulcan Arms
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