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Posted: 2/6/2006 7:14:53 AM EDT
I read a while back that Bushmaster discontinued the Bullpup line. Did this affect the value of these or not. A friend of mine wants to sell his and asked me what I thought it was worth. I looked in the EE to get an idea and there wasn't any listed right now. Anybody got an idea what a 'like new" one would be worth. Thanks for any and all input.
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 8:04:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/6/2006 8:04:38 AM EDT by DK-Prof]

From a buyer's perspective, a "like new" used M17S bullpup would be worth between $500 and $600. I certainly wouldn't pay more personally, knowing that I'd have to ship it to Kurt's Kustom to get a truly good rifle out of it, and it will cost several hundred $$ to do that - plus the optics that I'd want to buy.

As a seller, if he is patient, he might get as much as $650 or even $700 if he is really lucky. Listing it on GunsAmerica for $700 might be worthwhile, but I think he'd have to be lucky to sell it for that.


Just my guesses - I haven't really looked closely at the prices - and it's been years since I bought mine.

Link Posted: 2/6/2006 3:53:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/6/2006 3:53:58 PM EDT by blue_bomber]
I was planning on buying a AK until I seen one of these at my local gun shop. He is asking $500.00 for it. I know nothing about these things, but it looks really cool. Also wondering is there a pre ban and post ban model? I'm also wondering why DK_Prof stated "he would have to send it off to Kurt's Kustom to get a truly good rifle out of it"? Is there something wrong with the gun "as is"?

Link Posted: 2/6/2006 3:58:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/6/2006 3:59:42 PM EDT by DK-Prof]

Originally Posted By blue_bomber:
I'm also wondering why DK_Prof stated "he would have to send it off to Kurt's Kustom to get a truly good rifle out of it"? Is there something wrong with the gun "as is"?




Here's something I wrote a while ago, that summarizes my feelings on the M17S - hope you find it useful:

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The Busmaster M17S is a POTENTIALLY great rifle that was never properly developed by Bushmaster. They kind of gave up half-way, and just kept selling the occasional one. Unfortunately, it needs some work to make it a great rifle. So, to get a great rifle, you should expect to spend anywhere from $200 - $400 on modifications and optics. I really like the M17S, but I would NOT spend $700 for one. At most, I'd pay about $500, knowing how much I'd need to spend on mods.

In short, the pros and cons of the M17S are:

Pros:
1. Very long barrel in very short package
2. Very good ergonomics (extremely well-balanced and easy to shoot)
3. Very solid receiver
4. Very reliable - with a piston gas system that requires little cleaning

Cons:
1: The stock rail (and base) suck, and should be replaced
2. Needs optics of some kind
3. Trigger is not great (although is not really worse than most military triggers)
4. Some people need to get used to unfamiliar mag changes (not really a problem with the rifle, per se - just with peoples' habits and preferences)

Some people incorrectly claim that the M17S is "heavy" - but it is no heavier than a comparable AR. Since the barrel is 21.5" the correct comparison is an AR with a similar-length barrel, and an AR with a 20" barrel weighs about the same as an M17S. Since the rifle is shorter than a 14.5" AR, people often make the mistake of incorrectly comparing it's weight to the shorter rifles. So technically, the M17S is actually slightly lighter than comparable ARs, even with its piston gas system.

Fortunately, Kurt Wala at KKF can do extensive mods if you have the time and money to spend. He has a variety of rail options for the top, better charging handle, and can tweak the trigger. He can also do more extensive custom modifications.

For the price, it is still the best deal in bullpups - and the only american factory-made bullpup I am aware of. With a few mods, it really is a great rifle (but, in it's stock configuration it deserves the hate).

But, like I said, I wouldn't pay $700 for one - and I'm one of the people that like it best
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 5:21:09 PM EDT
I checked out Kurt's website and I see what you mean. I agree the rifle has great potential. Now the price of $500.00 seems a bit low compared to some of the others prices on the web ($600-700). Would this suggest something may be wrong with the rifle or perhaps this is just a good deal.
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 6:21:22 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 7:44:27 PM EDT
Was that before they stopped making them?
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 7:45:37 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 7:48:50 PM EDT
I'm not too sure; the guy at my local gun shop said they quit making them, and he didn't know why. I checked out Bush's web site and couldn't find them on their.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 7:12:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/7/2006 7:13:26 AM EDT by DK-Prof]

Originally Posted By blue_bomber:
I'm not too sure; the guy at my local gun shop said they quit making them, and he didn't know why. I checked out Bush's web site and couldn't find them on their.



Yes, Bushmaster announced several weeks ago that they were going to discontinue the bullpup (because of weak sales) and their .308 AR (supposedly because of persistent technical problems).

They claim that they will still support the M17S bullpup in terms of parts, etc.

Here's the announcement from Bushmaster: www.bushmaster.com/m17s308.asp
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