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Posted: 10/21/2009 7:01:18 PM EDT
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(A complete firearm is pictured, the lower receiver, vertical fore grip, and magazine, even though shown in the picture, are NOT included)
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Posted: 10/21/2009 7:59:01 PM EDT
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so the grip makes it a sbr correct
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Posted: 10/21/2009 8:07:40 PM EDT
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I think his point was that, knowing the type of people that work there... absolute geniuses they are...
 they probably didn't register it an AOW before snapping that picture...
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Posted: 10/21/2009 8:13:11 PM EDT
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I think his point was that, knowing the type of people that work there... absolute geniuses they are... they probably didn't register it an AOW before snapping that picture...That may be a good thing from a safety stand point. Maybe the man will realize this and shut them down, thus preventing their shitty products from being sold. HAHA 
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Posted: 10/21/2009 8:23:37 PM EDT
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I think his point was that, knowing the type of people that work there... absolute geniuses they are... they probably didn't register it an AOW before snapping that picture...That may be a good thing from a safety stand point. Maybe the man will realize this and shut them down, thus preventing their shitty products from being sold. HAHA Wishful thinking but nope, they'll just change names and move along like business as usual... 
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Posted: 10/21/2009 9:13:53 PM EDT
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so the grip makes it a sbr correct I believe its considered an AOW since it still doesn't have a stock so it really can't be shoulder fired (so its not technically a rifle) Falls under the $5 tax |
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Posted: 10/21/2009 9:24:43 PM EDT
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so the grip makes it a sbr correct No adding a vertical grip doesn't make the barrel shorter. A SBR or Short Barrled Rifle is an SBR because the barrel is shorter than 16" The AOW or Any Other Weapon linked above is an AOW becuse it is a handgun with a vertical grip installed. A handgun is defined under Federal law as being designed to be held and fired with one hand. A firearm with two grips is not designed to be fired with one hand so the handgun becomes an AOW when the vertical grip is installed. |
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Posted: 10/21/2009 10:16:46 PM EDT
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Here's the funny part:
BlackthorneProducts.com uses FIRST quality parts ONLY , NO “seconds”, EVER.
I guess that Blackthorne upper receiver that wouldn't even allow a bolt carrier to pass through it without jamming up at my FFL's shop was a FIRST quality part. It's a FIRST-quality paperweight right now. |
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Posted: 10/22/2009 5:34:22 PM EDT
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An SBR does not have to have a stock.
An SBR can have have a stock or not have a stock, and can have a vertical grip with or without stock. The AOW can only have the vertical grip and cannot have any kind of stock. To clarify, to transfer an AOW is $5, Form 4. To make an AOW or an SBR is $200, Form 1. To transfer an SBR is $200, Form 4. |
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Posted: 10/22/2009 6:20:13 PM EDT
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still looks like a sbr to me
how many more people are going to chime in its a aow, what is it 4 posts that say aow. maybe a poll is needed to clarify this 
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Posted: 10/22/2009 7:30:18 PM EDT
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still looks like a sbr to me how many more people are going to chime in its a aow, what is it 4 posts that say aow. maybe a poll is needed to clarify this I see where you're going with this..
I still think it's an AOW.. poll would be unnecessary, how abut we ask an expert? 
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Posted: 10/23/2009 2:58:54 PM EDT
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I think his point was that, knowing the type of people that work there... absolute geniuses they are... they probably didn't register it an AOW before snapping that picture...I bet they just wandered over to the Vulcan side of the shop and picked up the first receiver off the shelf. Gotta wonder if they even have a lower registered as an SBR for all the other pics on their site... How many neophytes have already bought those kits and built it them up without knowing the potential consequences? They may not sell 'Seconds' but they sure do sell crap that didn't pass someone elses QC checks. |
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Posted: 11/5/2009 3:57:40 PM EDT
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