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Posted: 9/5/2004 5:24:25 PM EST
What is the best flash hider for 14.5 barrel to make it legal 16"? I would like to heav a 14.5 barrel for my A2 pre-ban. I want something that looks close to what I have on the A2 now. If you guys have any pictures or links let me know or post them. Thanks in advance.
Link Posted: 9/5/2004 5:31:09 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/5/2004 5:33:46 PM EST
Here's a few Phantoms which, when permanently attached, take a 14.5 inch barrel beyond the minimum required by BATFE. The Vortex accomplishes the same goal of legality and some folks prefer them to the Phantom series. I have and prefer the 4 slot forked Phantom because I don't do much prone shooting with my M4gery. YMMV.

YHM.net has Phantoms

HS1
Link Posted: 9/5/2004 5:36:36 PM EST
I still don't understand. If I measure my mini y comp it is 2.5" long, from end to lock washer. The bbl is 16.1". So if the y comp is cut off, is the barrel salvaged from underneath the sucker?
Link Posted: 9/5/2004 5:42:12 PM EST
Yes. KKF removed my Mini Y and replaced it with a 4 slot forked Phantom perm. attached.

ADCO has a quicker turnaround time, but in fairness to KKF, my M4A3 upper is flawless.

HS1
Link Posted: 9/5/2004 5:44:02 PM EST

Originally Posted By HighStrung1:
Yes. KKF removed my Mini Y and replaced it with a 4 slot forked Phantom perm. attached.

ADCO has a quicker turnaround time, but in fairness to KKF, my M4A3 upper is flawless.

HS1



Thanks. Deciding who to send it to will be a tough one.
Link Posted: 9/5/2004 5:47:07 PM EST
Another option is to get a Gemtech Bi-Lock installed, then if the mood strikes at a later date you can use a M496D supressor.

Link Posted: 9/5/2004 5:50:00 PM EST
Prior to all the M4 madness, I had KKF change a BM 14.5" M4 barrel w/AK brake to one of his own long flash hiders. Very nice work.
Link Posted: 9/5/2004 5:58:30 PM EST
I want it to look as close to the M4 as possible. I also want it to be right on the mark of 16" if at all possible.
Link Posted: 9/5/2004 5:59:14 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/5/2004 6:02:24 PM EST
Got a link to this gem-tech Bi- lock. Thanks
Link Posted: 9/5/2004 6:15:48 PM EST

Originally Posted By TheRicker:
You want the Phantom.

www.adcofirearms.com/acc/acimages/Phantom%205C1.jpg

Click HERE for pricing info.

We can also permanently attach it to your barrel.



What method do you guys use to permanantly attach them??

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Link Posted: 9/5/2004 6:16:17 PM EST

Originally Posted By Lawman107:
Got a link to this gem-tech Bi- lock. Thanks



Look Here !!!!! :-)
Link Posted: 9/5/2004 6:16:27 PM EST
The Phantom 5C2 is the shiz-nit.

Excellent flash hiding properties, low dust signature, compensation, and scary pointy things.
Link Posted: 9/5/2004 6:30:01 PM EST
Got ant pictures of any barrels that have these items on them?
Link Posted: 9/5/2004 6:33:48 PM EST

Originally Posted By PSYWAR1-0:

Originally Posted By Lawman107:
Got a link to this gem-tech Bi- lock. Thanks



Look Here !!!!! :-)



Just curious, will they sell just the BiLock to lowly civilians. I have a weakness for sweet looking muzzle devices, even if I cannot use them for their intended purpose.
Link Posted: 9/5/2004 6:33:54 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/5/2004 6:39:51 PM EST
Thanks Lumpy,

Here is a pic of a Bi-Lock mounted, trust me, it really is a Bi-Lock LOL.

Link Posted: 9/5/2004 6:48:18 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/5/2004 6:50:08 PM EST by model927]
KKF makes one called the mil-spec wich is a birdcage the same legnth as the phantom.I dont know how much of a gap it would make but the difference in legnth between a 14.5 and birdcage and legnth legality is 1/8 of an inch so maybe you could have a smith use a 1/8 steel disc same diameter as the barrel and then permanetly attach a regular birdcage.Brownells has the new 5 port phantom/comp from YHM for $21+shipping..the cheapest I have seen yet.
Link Posted: 9/5/2004 6:53:36 PM EST

Originally Posted By model927:
KKF makes one called the mil-spec wich is a birdcage the same legnth as the phantom.I dont know how much of a gap it would make but the difference in legnth between a 14.5 and birdcage and legnth legality is 1/8 of an inch so maybe you could have a smith use a 1/8 steel disc same diameter as the barrel and then permanetly attach a regular birdcage.Brownells has the new 5 port phantom/comp from YHM for $21+shipping..the cheapest I have seen yet.



Does KKF have a web site to check these out?
Link Posted: 9/5/2004 7:42:39 PM EST
Where can you buy the Gem Tech Bi-Lock and how much does it cost?
Link Posted: 9/5/2004 7:46:31 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/5/2004 7:55:14 PM EST
I must be missing the price list somewhere... Do you know what they are asking for them?
Link Posted: 9/5/2004 8:48:20 PM EST
Not to rob the thread but I have a couple questions for ADCO. Your pricing, for $85 Dollars you can take my break off and attach a phantom with the teeth, is the break included in the price? Second I have a bushmaster do I have to add $56? There will be no problem with reliability or accuracy just possible minor scratches? And for additional $67 dollars I can have my front sight tower swapped for a good one with no accuracy problems just minor scratches that I can dub up with a paint pen. Last I know you’re busy but when I call with my credit card we can have a receipt dated for that day?
Thanks for time
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 9:10:27 PM EST
I like the Vortex. Three of my personal rifles have them on the end of 14.5 inch barrles. My work rifle has a Phantom on the end of a 14.5 M4 barrel.

Here are some pics.


This barrel started out as a 16 inch LW. I sent it off to KKF and had him cut it to 14.5 and pin the Vortex on it.


C8gery with a Vortex.
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 9:44:41 PM EST
Will one of the slip-over car supressors take a 14.5" out to the legal 16" ??

Thanks,
Steve
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