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Posted: 10/24/2010 6:37:58 PM EDT
What is the tightest 5.56mm @ 100 yards group you've ever shot, and with what equipment?  I shot a 3/4" group with a damaged Noveske barrel at 100 yards (has a gouge in the bore...I think I ruined it with an over-sized 1.25" square mil-spec cleaning rod and a patch that I had no choice but to hammer through...)

I am wondering what my 26" Kreiger will shoot when I get it back from Adco (threading) and shoot it for the first time.  Is the 5.56 "clover-leaf capable"?
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 6:46:53 PM EDT
[#1]
With 5.56mm NATO or with a 5.56mm bullet?
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 6:55:49 PM EDT
[#2]
I just looked it up, the 09 world record for 100yds was .1482" not sure what with though.

Link Posted: 10/24/2010 6:57:53 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
With 5.56mm NATO or with a 5.56mm bullet?


I only said "5.56mm" to establish the general caliber, i.e. not 6.8 SPC or 6.5 Grendel, etc...

Link Posted: 10/24/2010 6:58:18 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
I just looked it up, the 09 world record for 100yds was .1482" not sure what with though.


Wow....that will work.
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 6:59:31 PM EDT
[#5]
That's aggregate, here's the pending world record single target for 200.







 
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 7:08:33 PM EDT
[#6]
Caliber was 6mm PPC.
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 7:12:31 PM EDT
[#7]
Never actually measured it but, mine was definitely a sub-moa 10 shot group with MK262 out of an 18" Noveske..
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 7:33:38 PM EDT
[#8]
I have a .4" 3 shot group with prvi partizan match ammo on a 18" DPMS barrel.  I am sure it would of open up if I've done a 5 shot group.  I was sighting in my scope at the time so I was saving the ammo for the next group...
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 7:46:08 PM EDT
[#9]
Right around .6" 5 shot group with my 18" Stealth with 75 gr Hornady BTHPs.
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 8:37:55 PM EDT
[#10]
Shot a .455 5 shot group out of a 16" LMT govt profile upper with 62gr reloads. Never was able to repeat it. I can maintain about a .75 consistency 5 shot group out of it currently.
Link Posted: 10/25/2010 12:17:06 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
That's aggregate, here's the pending world record single target for 200.

http://accurateshooter.net/Blog/libby093.jpg  


Link Posted: 10/25/2010 5:26:18 AM EDT
[#12]
like 5in at 120yrds!! but its gettin better. all new equipment also! still felling her out
Link Posted: 10/25/2010 5:26:40 AM EDT
[#13]
With my predator pursuit and nikon monarch 4x16 scope using factory ammo, I can easily do .75" groups and about .6" groups when I am really taking my time. I think the rifle is capable of much better with dialed in handloads and a good stable shooting bench setup. Oh and a better shooter
Link Posted: 10/25/2010 5:29:34 AM EDT
[#14]
5 shots into .310" at 100 yards, off a bipod.  A dime covered the group.  Handloads were Nosler 55 gr CT, 23 grains of Varget, 24" Bushmaster Varminter.
Link Posted: 10/25/2010 5:33:13 AM EDT
[#15]
When I am doing my part and the weather is good I can usually hold MOA or slightly over with a 20" WOA and 10X scope.
When I first got an AR I was amazed at the accuracy of it. Then I started shooting 10 shot groups.........
I love my bolt rifles.
Link Posted: 10/25/2010 6:31:35 AM EDT
[#16]
.5 from a 16" DPMS Bull barrell.
Link Posted: 10/25/2010 6:36:45 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
.5 from a 16" DPMS Bull barrell.


That is really saying something about DPMS.  If you are shooting 1/2" from a DPMS barrel, it makes me look pretty silly for buying a Kreiger 26".

Link Posted: 10/25/2010 6:37:22 AM EDT
[#18]
16" RRA 1:8 SS

Best 4 Shot Group - 62gr Barnes TSX  .766
Best 5 Shot Group - 55gr Hornady FMJ  .779



Link Posted: 10/25/2010 6:41:39 AM EDT
[#19]
You guys posting groups, did you subtract the bullet diameter from those?
Link Posted: 10/25/2010 8:39:09 AM EDT
[#20]
The group in the upper right was a pretty good five shot group.  I didn't measure it, but the dot is 1" in diameter.



The group in the upper right on this one was only three shots.



These were shot at 100 yards using a home built rifle.  I think the first one was a BCM SS410 16" and the second was a Superior Barrels 18", although it's possible that both were from the BCM barrel.  Ten and 20 shot groups spread out to just under MOA at 100 yards.  My goto ammo is a 77gr Sierra Match King with Reloader 15 powder.



Link Posted: 10/25/2010 9:36:49 AM EDT
[#21]
.562 5 shot group at 100 yards with an 18" LaRue Stealth.  Using Federal XM193.
Link Posted: 10/25/2010 10:17:39 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Quoted:
.5 from a 16" DPMS Bull barrell.


That is really saying something about DPMS.  If you are shooting 1/2" from a DPMS barrel, it makes me look pretty silly for buying a Kreiger 26".



That's the only reason I kept the DPMS barrel. I bought it for a target type build.
And just to be fair, it's chambered for .223, not 5.56. Stainless Bull barrel.
I kept the target for a long time, but I have no idea where it is now.

At 100, I could put every shot in a 1" orange dot on the bull. Only .223/5.56 I ever had that would.
I don't remember what ammo I was using. Nothing spectacular though. I can't afford it.

Link Posted: 10/25/2010 10:42:36 AM EDT
[#23]
I had a good one going a few weeks ago but then I blew it....

Link Posted: 10/25/2010 10:55:30 AM EDT
[#24]
I've done a couple of 1 ragged hole groups at 100 yds with my precision AR with handloaded ammo.
Link Posted: 10/25/2010 11:03:49 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
I've done a couple of 1 ragged hole groups at 100 yds with my precision AR with handloaded ammo.


24 grains of Varget may I ask?

Link Posted: 10/25/2010 12:01:42 PM EDT
[#26]
pics or non of this happened...
Link Posted: 10/25/2010 12:02:22 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I've done a couple of 1 ragged hole groups at 100 yds with my precision AR with handloaded ammo.


24 grains of Varget may I ask?



SMK 69s with 24.4gr Varget is what does this trick for that gun!  Good guess!
Link Posted: 10/25/2010 12:02:38 PM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
pics or non of this happened...


No way man, this is the internet. Everyone has a rifle that shoots half-moa with bulk ammo.
Link Posted: 10/25/2010 12:07:24 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
pics or non of this happened...


+1
Link Posted: 10/25/2010 12:20:26 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Quoted:
pics or non of this happened...


+1


I never understood this about a groups thread.  Anyone who felt they needed to BS would just gin up a dummy target.
Link Posted: 10/25/2010 12:31:04 PM EDT
[#31]
This is the target.  It was witnessed by a friend who went to the range with me.  You can say what you want, fake target, fake signature (not on this image, would make it either too large or unviewable), fake rifle...  I can't prove it to you one way or the other.  I do, however, know I did it.




Original range report (in archives)  http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=2&f=219&t=189871
Link Posted: 10/25/2010 12:32:56 PM EDT
[#32]
ONCE got under an inch with 3, never went for 5 shot groups till recently.
Link Posted: 10/25/2010 8:20:15 PM EDT
[#33]
I'd be curious what ammo everyone is finding most accurate with their guns. My predator pursuit teases me with real tackdriver accuracy with match ammo. I've had 3 of 5 shots almost all touching at 100 yards. My problem is I always have a shot (sometimes two) in a 5 shot group that opens things up. Still, I am happy with  5 shot groups that average .75" at 100 yards and a bit better if I really take my time between shots and focus on the trigger.

So far, horrandy ammo is the most accurate factory ammo in my rifle but is too pricey at $30 for a box of 50 rounds to shoot alot. What factory ammo are other folks getting best accuracy from?
Link Posted: 10/25/2010 8:59:06 PM EDT
[#34]
My Krieger 16" barrel shoots better than I do but has allowed me to get as tight as 3/8" but normally with handloads (24.0 gr RE-15 77smk FED205M primer ww cases) it tends to vary between 1/2"~ 1" all fliers included. ;)
Link Posted: 10/26/2010 4:43:22 AM EDT
[#35]
With my RRA Pedator Pursuit and some accurate handloads i have worked up about 1 1/2 inch is best i have done at 200 yards.I usually do ten shot groups.
I guess i need to try five and let the barrel cool down some time.At 100 yards i can almots cover my ten shots with a quarter.Oh Leuplod 4-18x50 scope.

I did the one below just this last sunday and not even trying hard...was windy too.I love that Pred Pursuit.
Link Posted: 10/26/2010 5:09:34 AM EDT
[#36]
Don't save many targets and never take pics of them, but the best group I have in my log book was 5 shots measuring 0.504".   This was with 75 grain Scirocco's over Varget from a DPMS MK 12 barrel.  I have a laundry list of groups from the same barrel using varios load combinations in the .06-0.9" range.
Link Posted: 10/26/2010 7:18:46 AM EDT
[#37]
looks like you have your predator pursuit dialed in nicely. I need to work up a good handload to use with mine since factory ammo gets expensive fast. I also find to get the best accuracy out of my PP, I need to wait a minute between shots. Don't know if it really is to let the barrel cool down or just to let me focus more on trigger pull but it does make for tighter groups on mine. I wish I had a place to do some long range shooting with mine and see what it could do.
Link Posted: 10/26/2010 8:03:10 AM EDT
[#38]

24" barreled Krieger, JP single stage trigger, lead in butt stock, accuracy front block, bagged in on concrete bench. Under .5 " for 10 shots.

This Krieger is awesome. Many 3 shot groups in the high .1's low.2's . lots of sub .5" 5 shots. It really  likes the Sierra Match Kings and the 50 Vmax both over Varget. Barrel is 1 in 9 twist.  All ammo was weighed ,sorted, and checked for concentricity of less than .0015 before that 10 shot group. Only the perfect loads were used on that one.

If you do your homework and practice good bench/shooting techniques, the AR is a very accurate platform.
Link Posted: 10/26/2010 9:31:19 AM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/toxicar/groups006.jpg
24" barreled Krieger, JP single stage trigger, lead in butt stock, accuracy front block, bagged in on concrete bench. Under .5 " for 10 shots.

This Krieger is awesome. Many 3 shot groups in the high .1's low.2's . lots of sub .5" 5 shots. It really  likes the Sierra Match Kings and the 50 Vmax both over Varget. Barrel is 1 in 9 twist.  All ammo was weighed ,sorted, and checked for concentricity of less than .0015 before that 10 shot group. Only the perfect loads were used on that one.

If you do your homework and practice good bench/shooting techniques, the AR is a very accurate platform.


A 1:9 barrel shooting those kinds of groups with 77 gr. Sierra's?! ...NOT POSSIBLE!  Only a 1:7 twist can handle bullets that long.

Nice shooting, toxic! ..and it looks like you have a fine rifle there.
Link Posted: 10/26/2010 9:35:37 AM EDT
[#40]


Link Posted: 10/26/2010 9:37:42 AM EDT
[#41]
TOXIC....dude!
Link Posted: 10/26/2010 9:52:49 AM EDT
[#42]
Nice groups guys.
Mine was only a 5 shot group.
Link Posted: 10/26/2010 11:02:26 AM EDT
[#43]
Uhhhhh 3" at 100 yards with PMC Bronze
Link Posted: 10/26/2010 12:17:15 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
pics or non of this happened...



50 gr Hornady SST handloads out of a RRA Varmint



Link Posted: 10/26/2010 12:30:19 PM EDT
[#45]
Link Posted: 10/26/2010 1:39:16 PM EDT
[#46]
22" Kreiger from Compass Lake, JP trigger, Mueller optics scope and a bad shooter.

This is about as good as I can consistently do with 5 shots. 3/4"



Link Posted: 10/26/2010 1:48:42 PM EDT
[#47]
This was one of the first groups I shot with AR#1.  It was a month or so after I assembled it.  Early 2008






 
Link Posted: 10/26/2010 1:56:13 PM EDT
[#48]
My best 5-shot group ever was around 0.8 inches.  I can usually get down just below 1" on a good day with my (pretty cheap) reloads...





I've never spent much time making match ammo, not sure I'm a good enough shot to warrant that much time, money, and energy yet...

 
Link Posted: 10/26/2010 2:39:54 PM EDT
[#49]
best ive done at 100m is a 1 shot group with 0 moa. not bragging, but hey im a beast. 55grain WWB freehand.....
Link Posted: 10/26/2010 3:29:02 PM EDT
[#50]
77gr SMK out of my 16" LaRue

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