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Posted: 11/16/2003 12:38:26 AM EDT
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M7 and M9 fit M-16's (AR15's), I dont know about the M4 though. I think it may be for the M1 rifle or carbine. M7 is the basic M-16 bayonet, the M9 is the multi-purpose one that also fits an M-16.
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Posted: 11/16/2003 6:03:41 AM EDT
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Thanks; seems to be a big price difference between the two.
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Posted: 11/16/2003 7:39:31 AM EDT
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The M4 bayonet fits the Korean War vintage M1 Carbine. WW2 M1 Carbine has no means to mount one.
M6 fits the M14 in case anyone is interested. -- Chuck |
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Posted: 11/17/2003 12:55:10 AM EDT
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The M7 is the M16 version of the same bayonet design that's been used since WWII.
[img]arms2armor.com/Bayonets/usm7a.jpg[/img] [img]www.uscav.com/prodInfo/enlarged/22204L.jpg[/img] Vietnam-era M7 [img]www.rguns.net/knives/knif05.lg.jpg[/img] Current-issue-style M7 [url]www.eickhorn-solingen.com/englisch/inhalt/products/bayonets/bayonets_1.html[/url] [url]www.sarcoinc.com/bayo-eick.html[/url] The M9 is the current bayonet, and has gone through a few minor revisions. They have been made by Buck and Phrobis, with the largest contractor being Lan-Cay, who currently shares the current contract with Ontario. [img]quarterbore.com/images/m9ontario.jpg[/img] The M7 is a better bayonet, while the *better* M9s are probably the better field knives. The quality definitely dropped when Lan-Cay won the contract, though. -Troy |
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Posted: 11/17/2003 3:02:04 PM EDT
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Thanks Troy, great info. The pics show why the M9 costs so much more.
I was looking for one to put on my 590A1, so a cheapo M7 should suffice for that job. M9 sure does look nice though :-) |
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Posted: 11/17/2003 11:32:53 PM EDT
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I just got a catalog in the mail from Brigade Quartermasters, and on the back cover is a bayonet made by Ontario Knife Co. It has an 8-inch blade with a small section of serration at the rear of the edge. The handle is a single piece of OD polymer in the shape of the handles on their Spec-Plus series knives. I wouldn't mind checking one of them out, but they're $120.
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Posted: 11/18/2003 2:53:06 AM EDT
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I've seen them for around $90 in several places, just can't remember where right now
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Posted: 11/18/2003 6:40:01 AM EDT
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The M9 is a really big bayonet (blade is about 1/4inch thick), if you want the superior product get the M7, it is a better bayonet and a better combat knife in my opinion.
They were doing more bayonet combat in WWI and WWII and that (M-7 style) design was tops then, we barely use bayos at all anymore, and now we have a knife so large that I think it might be hard to get it through ribs. |
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Posted: 11/18/2003 3:41:13 PM EDT
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Quoted: I've seen them for around $90 in several places, just can't remember where right now [url=www.cheaperthandirt.com] Cheaper Than Dirt [/url] [url=http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd/product.asp?sku=VAL%2D303&mscssid=FEENXAT0MWTE9HX06CVF06WVSGPQ3GUC]Product Description: Ontario Marine Combat Bayonet 8" Blade 13.25" Overall[/url] Catalog Item #: VAL-303 Mfg Item #: 06504 US Marine Bayonet Latest US Marine multi-purpose bayonet, 8" blade with 53-58 RC hardness, 13.25" overall, phosphate non-reflective finish, original military, current contract production by Ontario Knife. Value: $259.94 Our Low Price: $89.97 Your Savings: $169.97 (65.39%) |
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Posted: 11/18/2003 4:11:09 PM EDT
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Thanks Vinnie
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Posted: 11/18/2003 7:58:25 PM EDT
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Quoted: Thanks Vinnie No need. It's funny but I just finished putting together my preban Bushy M4 and was looking at different Bayonets when I saw your thread. I think I'll be getting the M7 one myself. I have one other catalog that I need to find. It had surplus stuff, and I remember seeing 3 or 4 different types for the M16/AR15. If I do find it I'll let you know. |
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Posted: 11/18/2003 9:03:24 PM EDT
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RGuns and CDNN are advertising M7s at $20-$30 depending upon condition. CDNN claim German manufacture (for Colt) on some of theirs.
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Posted: 11/18/2003 11:41:24 PM EDT
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Those Solingen, Germany-made M7s are looked down upon by Colt collectors because they aren't US-made, but the dirty little secret is that the German ones are much higher quality. They just aren't as rare (at this time) as a new, US-made, Colt-stamped M7 is.
-Troy |
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Posted: 11/19/2003 5:03:01 AM EDT
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I can confirm that the german made m7 bayonets
are very nice and very affordable. Mine is curently hanging on my mossberg 500 shotgun. Damn post ban AR!! |
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Posted: 12/22/2003 2:31:48 PM EDT
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Quoted: Those Solingen, Germany-made M7s are looked down upon by Colt collectors because they aren't US-made, but the dirty little secret is that the German ones are much higher quality. They just aren't as rare (at this time) as a new, US-made, Colt-stamped M7 is. -Troy Mine sure looks good on my pre-ban Colt; think I've got a spare, need to find it. |
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Posted: 12/22/2003 4:18:16 PM EDT
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Quoted: The pics show why the M9 costs so much more. I have seen the Phrobis M9's, in Desert Tan, go for over $350. on ebay! |
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Posted: 12/22/2003 10:21:04 PM EDT
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I have seen the Phrobis M9's, in Desert Tan, go for over $350. on ebay! Heck I gave mine away! Of course it was a green Phrobis, not the tan. I like the M7s much better for actual bayonnet work. |
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Posted: 12/23/2003 2:37:56 PM EDT
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Willy to Joe, or was it Joe to Willy? "Hey, I just realized this can opener fits on a rifle!"[LOL]
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Posted: 12/25/2003 8:02:13 PM EDT
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Mine says US M7 and BOC,what does the BOC mean?
Bob |
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Posted: 12/26/2003 12:29:01 PM EDT
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BOC = Bauer Ordnance Corporation, one of several M7 contractors.
[url]armscollectors.com/whbayo.htm[/url] -Troy |
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Posted: 12/27/2003 2:21:33 AM EDT
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So, anyone using the Colt Advanced Multipurpose Bayonet? (Sorry, can't remember it's anacronym or name)
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Posted: 12/27/2003 9:19:54 AM EDT
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The M4 Carbine looks like it's probably a better firearm than a spear. :)
I'll probably pick up the M9 because it does look like a better field knife for hunting, and I guess it's just a bonus that it also fits on the end of my hunting rifle. |
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