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Posted: 8/31/2023 1:33:12 PM EST
Interested in this 34mm optic. Is there anyone out there that has received one yet? Thoughts? (Very interested in this low price optic)
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Link Posted: 8/31/2023 2:12:39 PM EST
[#1]
I got an email Saturday pushing the ship date back to 9/8 for pre-orders with order dates up to and including 7/18. They also sent a code for a free RiZero muzzle brake to make up for the delay but it serves me no purpose as I use suppressor mounts. I may redeem and sell it.
Link Posted: 9/12/2023 12:23:23 PM EST
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Just fyi, this is the response I got today after they didn’t ship by 9/8

They are still in route to our facility. As soon as they arrive, we will begin shipping. Be on the lookout for the shipping notifications.
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I hope they’re doing QC before they ship.
Link Posted: 9/12/2023 12:37:45 PM EST
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I hope they’re doing QC before they ship.
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Just fyi, this is the response I got today after they didn’t ship by 9/8

They are still in route to our facility. As soon as they arrive, we will begin shipping. Be on the lookout for the shipping notifications.


I hope they’re doing QC before they ship.

So tempted to order w/o reviews.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 6:59:20 AM EST
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTnE-6_Ryhc

I have one on order. Can't wait to get it!
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 10:24:08 AM EST
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Best Budget LPVO? Arken EP8 1-8x28 FFP 34mm with KILL-BOX Reticle FIRST REACTION ~ Rex Reviews


From just what he’s showing it doesn’t look too bad. Illumination looks really good for a FFP that doesn’t cost $2000. The EOTech style 1X circle is a good work around but it looks like it might be a little big.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 12:46:40 PM EST
[#6]
Watched. I want one.
Link Posted: 9/29/2023 1:00:15 PM EST
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I look forward to real world reviews of the Arken LPVO.  

I have a couple of the Arken SH-4 Gen 2 scopes and they are good for the price. Arken recently released the SH-4J 6-24 with Japanese glass so I purchased one. I can sy that there is a big difference between the two. The SH-4 has distortion around the edges at 16X and above while the SH-4J is clear on all magnification levels.
Link Posted: 9/30/2023 12:05:16 PM EST
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Well, every two weeks I’m told “next week” when I ask about shipping ETA for the 1-8x.

I guess it will get here when it gets here.
Link Posted: 9/30/2023 4:51:50 PM EST
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Someone started a which go to lpvo thread in GD. A poster casually mentioned their friend having the arken and liking it. I was like wait…more please…but the moment has passed.
Link Posted: 9/30/2023 7:33:50 PM EST
[#10]
That reticle really does not appeal to me. Edited to add: maybe it looks better in person..

1x


4x i believe


8x

Link Posted: 9/30/2023 7:51:31 PM EST
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Yeah I think they made the outer circle waaaay too big. Needed to be about half of whatever MOA it is.
Link Posted: 9/30/2023 7:55:20 PM EST
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Yeah I think they made the outer circle waaaay too big. Needed to be about half of whatever MOA it is.
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Yeah I think they made the outer circle waaaay too big. Needed to be about half of whatever MOA it is.

Agreed
Link Posted: 9/30/2023 8:59:06 PM EST
[#13]
Looks very similar to a reticle Crimson Trace tried out years back
Link Posted: 9/30/2023 9:58:18 PM EST
[#14]
Looks like the EOtech Vudu reticle at 1X and an alien reticle at 8X
Link Posted: 10/15/2023 2:30:47 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/19/2023 2:33:40 PM EST
[#16]
It only took 13 1/2 weeks to arrive but mine finally showed up.

The good - the glass is really good; it's lighter than a PST II, shorter than a P4Xi, I really like the form factor; illumination is surprisingly good; the turrets are actually pretty good, I figured for the price point the turrets were going to be where they cut corners but I like the turrets better than my PST II

The bad - there is no 'off' position in between the illumination settings (seriously, how is this even a thing?) so if you want to go from setting 9 (the brightest) to off, it's ~340° turn of the knob; I've only played around with it around the house but I can't get the diopter set up right, if I set the diopter at 1x, it's off at 8x and vice versa. I'll have to play around with the diopter more once I get to the range.

For the price it's pretty hard to beat (I paid $318 shipped). But....getting strung along for 3 months when it was a 4 week lead time at the time of order was frustrating. They currently show a 6 week lead time but I wouldn't put much faith in that.
Link Posted: 10/19/2023 4:15:30 PM EST
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It only took 13 1/2 weeks to arrive but mine finally showed up.

The good - the glass is really good; it's lighter than a PST II, shorter than a P4Xi, I really like the form factor; illumination is surprisingly good; the turrets are actually pretty good, I figured for the price point the turrets were going to be where they cut corners but I like the turrets better than my PST II

The bad - there is no 'off' position in between the illumination settings (seriously, how is this even a thing?) so if you want to go from setting 9 (the brightest) to off, it's ~340° turn of the knob; I've only played around with it around the house but I can't get the diopter set up right, if I set the diopter at 1x, it's off at 8x and vice versa. I'll have to play around with the diopter more once I get to the range.

For the price it's pretty hard to beat (I paid $318 shipped). But....getting strung along for 3 months when it was a 4 week lead time at the time of order was frustrating. They currently show a 6 week lead time but I wouldn't put much faith in that.
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Thoughts on the reticle?
Link Posted: 10/19/2023 4:30:30 PM EST
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I like it better than I thought I would. At 1x illumination is almost necessary because the center horseshoe almost disappears without illumination. At 8x illumination isn’t necessary. The eye box does get tight at 8x but at 1x is relatively forgiving.
Link Posted: 10/24/2023 4:12:13 PM EST
[#19]
So…the reticle. I’ve read the manual about the calculations for the KLBOX and can’t wrap my head around the voodoo math. I wish Strelok updates were a thing. Or if I could get the subtensions of the drops I could figure it out on my own. I do like the brackets for ranging targets but I feel like I’m missing something. In my defense, the manual isn’t super clear.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 11:02:48 AM EST
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Ok I have been patient and allowed you guys undisturbed time to spend with your new LPVO. That time is over. Now report immediately on the reticle. Please. Is it growing on you? Does it irritate the hell out of you?
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 11:04:15 AM EST
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We are soon bringing out a 1-8 optic mil/mil/meters with a ranging bdc reticle that I believe does this better.  I look at the bracket reticle in the context of the video in the thread here (no greater understanding), and it seems a little under-featured for what this could be doing.

I designed the reticle for ours, and it tested out nicely.  It can support 12.5-18” 5.56 with m193, m855 and mk262, 14.5-16” 308 with m80 and m118lr, and 14.5 and 16” 6.5 creedmore with 140 and 147 hornady loads, to 6-700 meters by matching a load and specific elevation offset 100meter zero.  The reticle was based on 1000ft elevation, but obviously people at differing elevations could use jbm ballistics to figure out a zero.

Our reticle can range whitetail deer, human shoulder width, human head height, and we provide wind holds for two wind conditions and offsets for side prone behind a barricade 150&300meters.

The wind holds offer different full value wind speed support based on the bc of the rounds so 3-6mph in m193, 4-8 in m855 and m80, 5-10 in m118, all the way up to 8.5 and 17 in 6.5 with the 147 grain load.
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Who is we? Which company are we talking about here?
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 1:12:57 PM EST
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We are soon bringing out a 1-8 optic mil/mil/meters with a ranging bdc reticle that I believe does this better.  I look at the bracket reticle in the context of the video in the thread here (no greater understanding), and it seems a little under-featured for what this could be doing.

I designed the reticle for ours, and it tested out nicely.  It can support 12.5-18” 5.56 with m193, m855 and mk262, 14.5-16” 308 with m80 and m118lr, and 14.5 and 16” 6.5 creedmore with 140 and 147 hornady loads, to 6-700 meters by matching a load and specific elevation offset 100meter zero.  The reticle was based on 1000ft elevation, but obviously people at differing elevations could use jbm ballistics to figure out a zero.

Our reticle can range whitetail deer, human shoulder width, human head height, and we provide wind holds for two wind conditions and offsets for side prone behind a barricade 150&300meters.

The wind holds offer different full value wind speed support based on the bc of the rounds so 3-6mph in m193, 4-8 in m855 and m80, 5-10 in m118, all the way up to 8.5 and 17 in 6.5 with the 147 grain load.

Who is we? Which company are we talking about here?

Griffin Armament. It says so right in his signature.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 1:17:28 PM EST
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Griffin Armament. It says so right in his signature.
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We are soon bringing out a 1-8 optic mil/mil/meters with a ranging bdc reticle that I believe does this better.  I look at the bracket reticle in the context of the video in the thread here (no greater understanding), and it seems a little under-featured for what this could be doing.

I designed the reticle for ours, and it tested out nicely.  It can support 12.5-18” 5.56 with m193, m855 and mk262, 14.5-16” 308 with m80 and m118lr, and 14.5 and 16” 6.5 creedmore with 140 and 147 hornady loads, to 6-700 meters by matching a load and specific elevation offset 100meter zero.  The reticle was based on 1000ft elevation, but obviously people at differing elevations could use jbm ballistics to figure out a zero.

Our reticle can range whitetail deer, human shoulder width, human head height, and we provide wind holds for two wind conditions and offsets for side prone behind a barricade 150&300meters.

The wind holds offer different full value wind speed support based on the bc of the rounds so 3-6mph in m193, 4-8 in m855 and m80, 5-10 in m118, all the way up to 8.5 and 17 in 6.5 with the 147 grain load.

Who is we? Which company are we talking about here?

Griffin Armament. It says so right in his signature.

Thank you. My attention to detail is not what it once was.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 4:50:38 PM EST
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Ok I have been patient and allowed you guys undisturbed time to spend with your new LPVO. That time is over. Now report immediately on the reticle. Please. Is it growing on you? Does it irritate the hell out of you?
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My biggest frustration with the reticle is Arken won’t respond to emails asking for the subtensions. A BDC reticle is only good for a specific round at a specific velocity. I like the ranging capabilities of the reticle, but without knowing the subtensions I have no idea what my holds are.

ETA I think I’m going to order a B2B MOA turret tracking target and see if I can’t figure it out myself. The radio silence from Arken is stupid
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 6:25:11 PM EST
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Griffin Armament. It says so right in his signature.
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We are soon bringing out a 1-8 optic mil/mil/meters with a ranging bdc reticle that I believe does this better.  I look at the bracket reticle in the context of the video in the thread here (no greater understanding), and it seems a little under-featured for what this could be doing.

I designed the reticle for ours, and it tested out nicely.  It can support 12.5-18” 5.56 with m193, m855 and mk262, 14.5-16” 308 with m80 and m118lr, and 14.5 and 16” 6.5 creedmore with 140 and 147 hornady loads, to 6-700 meters by matching a load and specific elevation offset 100meter zero.  The reticle was based on 1000ft elevation, but obviously people at differing elevations could use jbm ballistics to figure out a zero.

Our reticle can range whitetail deer, human shoulder width, human head height, and we provide wind holds for two wind conditions and offsets for side prone behind a barricade 150&300meters.

The wind holds offer different full value wind speed support based on the bc of the rounds so 3-6mph in m193, 4-8 in m855 and m80, 5-10 in m118, all the way up to 8.5 and 17 in 6.5 with the 147 grain load.

Who is we? Which company are we talking about here?

Griffin Armament. It says so right in his signature.

Signatures don’t show up on mobile unless you turn the phone to landscape.
Link Posted: 12/14/2023 10:18:15 AM EST
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Ok I have been patient and allowed you guys undisturbed time to spend with your new LPVO. That time is over. Now report immediately on the reticle. Please. Is it growing on you? Does it irritate the hell out of you?
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This is only my second LPVO and spend most of my time shooting red dots so take this for what it is worth. My two bolt bench guns have the Arken SH-4J , EP-5 and I absolutely love those things. My first LPVO was a Swampfox Tomahawk 1-10 which was not a bad optic in my opinion. My Pros on the Arken EP-8 are as follow. The fit and finish is top notch. The low profile capped turrets I like. All the adjustments on the optic are very smooth and or tactile. The glass seems very clear and crisp (again take this for what it is with being my limited experience on this topic). My Cons are as follow. The reticle illumination needs to have an off setting between each intensity adjustment. With the EP-8 that I have there is a slight magnification at 1X power and is more noticeable than what was with my SF Tomahawk. The horse shoe portion of the reticle on the EP-8 I like but the rest of it seems a little too busy for an LPVO. For me the reticle worked best at either 1x or 8x but nothing in-between was very usable. This may be due to the fact that it is a FFP vs being a SFP. Might be this optic is more suitable for an AR-10 than an AR-15? For the price if this LPVO came in a SFP with a simpler / different type lower portion reticle it would be a home run for me.
Link Posted: 12/15/2023 7:33:33 PM EST
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I just still can't wrap my head around that, after all these years of everybody and everyone bitching about having a daylight bright reticle at 1x being the main issue with most of these cheap optics and companies are still insisting on coming out with these crappy non daylight bright LPVO's

It's like dealing with a bunch of politicians whom are out of tune with their voting base.

And don't tell me that it's some kind of magic voodoo that nobody can get done, cause Primary Arms did it with a cheap $300 optic.

WTF wants to buy a freaking boat anchor that doesn't have a daylight bright reticle in it, not me anyways.
Link Posted: 12/15/2023 8:48:21 PM EST
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I just still can't wrap my head around that, after all these years of everybody and everyone bitching about having a daylight bright reticle at 1x being the main issue with most of these cheap optics and companies are still insisting on coming out with these crappy non daylight bright LPVO's

It's like dealing with a bunch of politicians whom are out of tune with their voting base.

And don't tell me that it's some kind of magic voodoo that nobody can get done, cause Primary Arms did it with a cheap $300 optic.

WTF wants to buy a freaking boat anchor that doesn't have a daylight bright reticle in it, not me anyways.
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Well “Primary Arms did it with a cheap $300 optic” using a wire reticle and it’s SFP. The EP8 is glass etched and FFP. That’s like comparing apples and potatoes. The EP8 isn’t “nuclear bright” but its illumination isn’t on my list of gripes.
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