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Posted: 4/26/2004 11:50:27 AM EST
Just thought I'd post a couple of pictures of a stand I built for my AR. It works great for maintenance or display. The gun locks into the post. I thought about selling them as I own a plastic company and have the tools to build them.

If you are interested contact me msnow@unitedgalvanizing.com

http://www.hunt101.com/img/143240.JPG
http://www.hunt101.com/img/143236.JPG
http://www.hunt101.com/img/140676.JPG
Link Posted: 4/26/2004 12:19:55 PM EST
Looks really nice! Those regular cleaning/display stands commercially available that have support at the front and rear, for the most part, aren't really made for ar15s.
Link Posted: 4/26/2004 1:28:33 PM EST
TAPCO and Rock River sell wooden display stands, but I like the look of the black metal one you have. Very nice!
Link Posted: 4/26/2004 2:02:12 PM EST
THIS IS PLASTIC!!!! Its awesome because it wont hurt the finish of the gun.
Link Posted: 4/26/2004 2:03:15 PM EST
[Last Edit: 4/26/2004 2:03:52 PM EST by CavVet]
You need a patent. I need a price!

Edited to add: Please return the stolen milk crate in the background!
Link Posted: 4/26/2004 2:07:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: 4/27/2004 8:24:43 AM EST by msnow]
I was hoping to get $30 plus shipping. Do you think that's fair? If so, email me some info

msnow@unitedgalvanizing.com. I will check it tomorrow.
Link Posted: 4/26/2004 2:23:02 PM EST
Could you do them in clear plastic?
Link Posted: 4/26/2004 2:29:20 PM EST
Looks good,is it strong enough to put up with working on your lower if its bolted to a table,and does the plastic magazine type piece lock in to the mag well by the catch?
Link Posted: 4/26/2004 2:36:53 PM EST
I like it!

I'd be in for one when your ready for production
Link Posted: 4/26/2004 2:39:56 PM EST
looks good to me, I bet if you start production there would be alot of takers here
Link Posted: 4/26/2004 2:51:15 PM EST
WOW!!! I thought they were cool but I had no idea!! To answer all the questions, no clear is not an option. The plastic I use is HDPE which is a weldable plastic. Clear is not.
The post has a slot that does lock into the mag release. YOu can hold the stand upside down and the gun stays on.
The stand and weld is sturdy enough to jump up and down on. I have even mounted the stand vertically on the wall and the gun clicks right in no problem.

I own a plastic fabrication business and would be happy to make as many as you guys want. Just email me with a little info and we can discuss terms. THANKS FOR ALL THE INTEREST!!!! Seems like I found a nitch!!

Mike

msnow@unitedgalvan­izing.com
mike@plastixplustx.com
Link Posted: 4/26/2004 2:54:47 PM EST
Me! Me! Me! I want one!!!
Link Posted: 4/26/2004 3:12:25 PM EST
I'm interested!!
Link Posted: 4/26/2004 3:22:23 PM EST
Inbound-Check your E-Mail.

Nice work.

/S2
Link Posted: 4/26/2004 3:32:39 PM EST
I want one too!
Link Posted: 4/26/2004 4:09:05 PM EST
You have an IM.
Link Posted: 4/26/2004 4:51:28 PM EST
Looks good and it works.
Link Posted: 4/26/2004 5:15:09 PM EST
Thanks and it does work good. I made a display rack for a local gun dealer that holds 10 AR's side by side!!! It hangs on his wall and holds the guns in a vertical position.
Link Posted: 4/26/2004 6:16:29 PM EST
You need to contact the nearest Military installation (Army or Marine) and I bet you could sell a lot more. We have similar stands/rests on ranges but they are metal and they rust. This would be better and last longer.
Link Posted: 4/26/2004 6:19:28 PM EST
Thanks for that note. How do you call the army?? Are they in the yellow pages?? Honestly, that's agreat idea. I just wonder how I would go about contacting them. I guess the closest to me would be Ft. Hood .

thanks,
Link Posted: 4/26/2004 6:23:29 PM EST
GOING TO BED NOW. Thanks for all the interest from everyone. Keep the requests coming and I will do my best to contact each one of you if you are serious about getting one of these stands. I could get started right away on building them. Shouldn't take long.

Thanks, Mike
Link Posted: 4/26/2004 9:00:22 PM EST
Ummmm, I want one too!

IM sent..

Link Posted: 4/26/2004 9:21:59 PM EST
I'll take two! Email me for payment details. Looks great.
Link Posted: 4/26/2004 9:35:04 PM EST
msnow that stand is very cool. Maybe you should try to get on the industry community. I'm interested in one mainly for display purposes. Necessity is the mother of invention.
Link Posted: 4/26/2004 10:59:34 PM EST
I like it.... a lot

I have one suggestion... ... ...

A raised lip, maybe a 3/4 inch high would let the stand double as a tray to keep small parts (like springs detents and such) from running away. Granted, one could attach their own "parts tray". However, it would look much nicer as part of the design.


when you add the lip/tray to the design, can I get a deal?
Link Posted: 4/27/2004 2:52:47 AM EST
Great idea. I'd be interested as well. If it were me, and I knew the kind of sales I was looking at, I'd kill this thread and go get a patent as was suggested above. As soon as you sell several, some bigger business will be looking to rip it off and make their own. No good reason you shouldn't get all the sales for it. I've seen it happen with offroading parts where an enthusiast makes a special part, sells them himself and then the bigger industry gets wind, copies it and now the regular guy is back to square one.
Link Posted: 4/27/2004 3:37:31 AM EST
I know what you are saying. The problem is a patent attorney costs more than my car!!!!! Damn shame that the little guy with the idea always gets the shaft by the dummy with the money. Definately something I will look into though. thanks for the idea.
Link Posted: 4/27/2004 4:27:28 AM EST
I have had a lot of questions about the durability of the stand. We use the same plastic to build custom tool mounts for the emergency services. Everything is welded with a thermoplastic welding machine. This is a picture of the mounts we build for TNT rescue tools. These tools average between 35 and 65lbs each. I think it will hold up to an AR

http://www.hunt101.com/img/143997.JPG
Link Posted: 4/27/2004 4:27:43 AM EST
M-
I'd have to agree about the patent, I'd hate to see a good guy get shafted. I also understand about the attorney fees.

The lip/pockets suggestion's a good one esp. if the mounts being used for maint.

I'm also sure some of the design alterations we discussed will do well here also.

Guys how about a rack that's safe and wall mountable for continuous and uniform spacing of your AR collection, like armorers racks. And, a mount that allows the AR to lock onto the rack via the mag release buttton...?

Also, guys, this is no "upstart" Co. He's been in the industry and does work for FD/PD, w/ some seriously industrial strength racks, check them out here

Good luck w/ everything, more to follow...

/S2
Link Posted: 4/27/2004 4:31:37 AM EST
I think its pretty cool. All the trays, etc mentioned sound like pretty good ideas as well. Hell, you could be looking at a pretty extensive line of stuff with the imaginations these guys have.
Link Posted: 4/27/2004 6:53:25 AM EST
Looks great Msnnow, Email sent.
Please keep us posted on if/when there ready.
Best of luck, it would be great to see this work out for you.
Any chance we may get a 1911 model to go along with it. Josh
Link Posted: 4/27/2004 7:10:04 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/27/2004 7:11:06 AM EST by Marksman14]
What you should do is look at making these for multiple rifles.

I built a case that my firearms rest on, similar to yours, only they do not lock in place. The case has peices of wood in it in the shape of an L, and a dowel rod toward the front of the rifle to steady it and keep it level.

I did this for AK's, FAL's, AR's, etc, and they all fit in the case great.

What you should do is make these for different kinds of rifles, and attach them to a LARGE peice of plastic, and weld a peice of plastic onto the flat peice on the wall (hortizontally, to space the mag-locking mount from the big peice of plastic), then weld the part that goes into the magazine well onto those, and people could just bolt the entire huge piece onto their wall, and be done with it...and slide all their guns onto it.

What you should do, is make mounts for different types of rifles, different types of handguns, and let people special order them, for their specific collection of rifles/handguns.

I have no idea how you would ship something so massive...

OR what you could do, is make the L-shape peices (the horizontal "spacer" and the vertical magazine locking peice) that would easily mount onto peg-board, and people could "build" thier own, using your magazine-locking mounts, and being totally customizable. It would hold all the rifles right up on a wall, just like you see at a gunstore, only be a hell of a lot cleaner/cooler.

Does any of this make sense? Use the idea, but I want a big discount if ya do :-) lol

Scott

After reading this, I understand how hard it may be to visualize what the hell I am talking about. If so, e-mail me at sjmelze@ilstu.edu and I will e-mail you a few pictures of my wall mounted case.
Link Posted: 4/27/2004 7:12:10 AM EST
I would also probably order one of those for lower-assembly purposes. Sure would have been nice to have one of those for stock-mounting/replacement.
Link Posted: 4/27/2004 7:12:28 AM EST
I want at least one....please e-mail me....jwhoard@houstonengineeringinc.com

Thanks.....looks great.
Link Posted: 4/27/2004 7:44:08 AM EST
Mike,

email sent for two.
Link Posted: 4/27/2004 8:00:09 AM EST
Looks Great! I want one too.

Thanks,
556man
Link Posted: 4/27/2004 11:02:55 AM EST
Me me me too!!

Group buy, anyone?
Link Posted: 4/27/2004 12:18:24 PM EST
Yea, you should setup a group buy
Link Posted: 4/27/2004 1:20:40 PM EST
What the heck is a group buy???hinking.gif
Link Posted: 4/27/2004 4:50:33 PM EST
I like em ...let me know


Tagged for further inspection
Link Posted: 4/27/2004 7:05:42 PM EST
great idea mike. email sent
Link Posted: 4/27/2004 7:20:26 PM EST
Excellent job on this, msnow!!! Just another thought...how about some type of modification to turn it into a vehicle mount??
Link Posted: 4/27/2004 7:45:55 PM EST
Great Idea, keep us posted on your work!
Link Posted: 4/27/2004 10:10:38 PM EST
Great idea!

IM sent about one

What about differing heights on the grips though?
Link Posted: 4/27/2004 10:34:14 PM EST

Originally Posted By msnow:
What the heck is a group buy???



When members on the board get together and all go in on a buy.
Link Posted: 4/28/2004 3:20:39 AM EST
I actually am trying to design one that will mount behind the seat of a truck against the rear firewall. It would include a small well at the bottom for magazines.
Link Posted: 4/28/2004 3:33:54 AM EST
These look great indeed. I would definitely like one also!
Link Posted: 4/28/2004 3:48:54 AM EST
WHen you say differing the heights ont he grips, do you mean making the center post taller?? THis post is 6" tall which puts the rear grip about 3/4" off the base.
Link Posted: 4/28/2004 10:41:45 AM EST
This grip: (DPMS psg1-esqe grip)
gallery.mypearl.us/firearms/deluxe24_side
is a little taller than
this grip: (Tangodown BattleGrip)
gallery.mypearl.us/firearms/tubernow

Link Posted: 4/28/2004 1:42:39 PM EST
OK. I was thinking of something else. That would be an easy fix. Just specify a taller post
Link Posted: 4/29/2004 3:52:42 AM EST
How much for the piece that inserts into the mag well? I would like one to clamp into a vice when working on AR's.
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