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Posted: 5/24/2005 4:02:43 PM EDT
Does anyone practice using their AR-15 without hearing protection to get used to the sound and shock if the firearm is ever needed in a SHTF situation?

If I ever have to use my AR-15 in my home, am I looking at bloody ears and a lifetime of saying "Huh?" all day?
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 4:05:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AR-M9:


If I ever have to use my AR-15 in my home, am I looking at bloody ears and a lifetime of saying "Huh?" all day?



If this is true, why would you want to practice it?
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 4:07:55 PM EDT
Never.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 4:08:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Ridge:

Originally Posted By AR-M9:


If I ever have to use my AR-15 in my home, am I looking at bloody ears and a lifetime of saying "Huh?" all day?



If this is true, why would you want to practice it?

Who said it was true?
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 4:09:51 PM EDT
I don't, but I have shot off a round or two before my squishy earplugs have fit themselves to my ears. That's enough for me not to want to do it again.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 4:13:05 PM EDT
Only the stupid people do it on purpose. Twenty+ years ago things were different.

As far as shooting it in your house in a real world scenario, auditory exclusion will set in and it won't be an issue.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 4:15:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/24/2005 4:16:55 PM EDT by MisterPX]
I'll fire off a couple round here and there, just to get a feel for the noise. You'd be surprised at the number of billybadasssnipershooters that couldn't hit the broadside of a barn after a shot without hearing protection ( wouldn't have any in the real world). If you do fire indoors, you'll get then high pitch whine, stunned sensation, but no permanent damage ( yes, I've done that. no, not intentionally.

BTW, I did an Army qual. with no protection ( like a dumbass, I forgot to put them in) 40 rnds times 20 shooters. The annoying ringing stopped after an hour. No perm. damage.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 4:20:38 PM EDT
I've tried every caliber my dad, brother, and I have w/o earplugs just to see what it's like.

.223/5.56 isn't bad because the ringing in my ears went away after a couple seconds.

I will NEVER, EVER, EVER fire another .30 '06 w/o ear protection. My ears rang for 6 hours and I had a headache the rest of the night.

At the rife old age of 19, my hearing is already mediocre because of some minor medical problems when I was born (I still have tubes in my ears) so I do all I can to make sure I never shoot w/o hearing protection.

Besides, if the S is actually HTF, your adrenaline will be pumping so much so that you probably won't even hear the shot (yes, damage will still be done, but you probably won't wince in pain like you would at the range)

WIZZO
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 4:21:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MisterPX:
I'll fire off a couple round here and there, just to get a feel for the noise. You'd be surprised at the number of billybadasssnipershooters that couldn't hit the broadside of a barn after a shot without hearing protection ( wouldn't have any in the real world). If you do fire indoors, you'll get then high pitch whine, stunned sensation, but no permanent damage ( yes, I've done that. no, not intentionally.

BTW, I did an Army qual. with no protection ( like a dumbass, I forgot to put them in) 40 rnds times 20 shooters. The annoying ringing stopped after an hour. No perm. damage.


RIIIIIIIIGHT, you just keep telling yourself that, soon you'll be the only one you can hear. Sorry it DID do damage, whether you believe it or not. I keep a pair of "ears" inside. I can hear better and protect my hearing at the same time. Audio Inclusion might keep you mind from registering the noise but the damage will still occur. Shoot smart, shoot safe.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 4:25:08 PM EDT
Back when I was young and stupid(er), I would frequently shoot my AK without ear protection, never really bothered me. Then I bought my first AR which was post-ban with some sort of brake on it. Took it out to shoot it the first time figuring it was going to be considerably quieter than the AK... fired one round, thats "1" round through the thing, and imediately put ear protection on and I have not fired any weapon at the range without wearing hearing protection since. It was painful.

Now of course the brake had a lot to due with it, but hey, lesson learned.

So remember kids, always wear hearing protection. yeah.

Link Posted: 5/24/2005 4:34:39 PM EDT
hell yeah my uncle does it all the time, but of course he was born deaf.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 4:37:01 PM EDT
type louder , I can hardly hear ya! Too much shootin' without ear plugs I guess.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 4:37:53 PM EDT
Only when I am dry firing I don't even fire .22s without hearing protection in.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 4:43:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/24/2005 4:48:30 PM EDT by Va_Dinger]

Originally Posted By AR-M9:
Does anyone practice using their AR-15 without hearing protection to get used to the sound and shock if the firearm is ever needed in a SHTF situation?

If I ever have to use my AR-15 in my home, am I looking at bloody ears and a lifetime of saying "Huh?" all day?



Do you practice getting shot?
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 4:44:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Va_Dinger:

Originally Posted By AR-M9:
Does anyone practice using their AR-15 without hearing protection to get used to the sound and shock if the firearm is ever needed in a SHTF situation?

If I ever have to use my AR-15 in my home, am I looking at bloody ears and a lifetime of saying "Huh?" all day?



Do you practise getting shot?

Yes, what are friends for?
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 4:46:47 PM EDT
FXN, hearing tests the year before, the year during, and the year after, have shown NO HEARING LOSS.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 4:52:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By WIZZO_ARAKM14:

.223/5.56 isn't bad because the ringing in my ears went away after a couple seconds.

I will NEVER, EVER, EVER fire another .30 '06 w/o ear protection. My ears rang for 6 hours and I had a headache the rest of the night.

WIZZO



You must not be using bushmasters double y comp. I'd welcome a BAR mag full of 30'06 before 223 through that comp! Speaking of this topic how can you get your hands on those sweet military plugs that are custom made and drilled to eliminate painfull frequencies and accept the human voice range? How much?
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 5:11:12 PM EDT

Hearing loss is a " cumulative " thing. A few shots (outdoors) here and there without protection
proabably won't cause a " noticable " effect. Even a few hundred rounds may not cause a
" noticeable " permantent hearing loss, although you may notice a temporary loss that will subside within a few hours or a few days. You've got zillions of auditory sensor cells in your ears and losing
a few may not be be noticable.

The problem is that every time you shoot without hearing protection, you WILL LOSE some of your
sensory cells even though you don't notice. If you shoot a lot, then EVENTUALLY, as the years go by,
the accumulated effect will s l o w l y begin to cause a subtle but noticeable loss. It will only get
worse from there, not better. If you shoot indoors the damage can occur MUCH more rapidly.

Using effective hearing protection will PREVENT this from happening or least reduce the effects.

It's your choice. At LEAST make sure the kids have good earmuffs.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 5:21:14 PM EDT

Eh ? What say ? Waaaaaaay too much Jimi Hendrix and Led Zepplin !

I guess that dates me.



Gotta go find my false teeth, I think I left them by my walker.

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Link Posted: 5/24/2005 5:27:03 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 5:27:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/24/2005 5:28:03 PM EDT by AR-M9]
It was a question, go fuck yourself.

How's that for a flame war?
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 5:27:49 PM EDT
Last sunday a freind (who really is deaf, BTW) was showing his wife how to shoot on of my M4gerys and as I was talking to someone without ONE of my plugs in.

BLAAAM!

My right ear still doesnt feel right.

Tex78
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 5:28:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/24/2005 5:28:18 PM EDT by new-arguy]
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