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Posted: 9/13/2004 7:20:00 PM EST
I'm a little concerned about this issue.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:26:06 PM EST
Two words:

Nuclear fucking weapons.

And lots of them. You'll need a veritable stockpile to scare away the gang members and drug dealers that'll be marching in locksetp toward your door with bayonets fixed. If you hear their battalion CO order them to form a square, you'll know you're in a bad way.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:32:16 PM EST
Shoot them with your pre-ban.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:33:16 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:34:45 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/13/2004 7:35:15 PM EST by M11293]
CLick your heels 3 times and say, "I wish Feinstine was here, I wish feinstein was hear, I wish Feinstine was here." A wicked witch will appear and take their bayonets away.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:36:49 PM EST
Oh but you cant..they are to EEEEEEEEEVIL!
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 8:11:19 PM EST
Quick! Parry left!
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 8:14:39 PM EST
hand to hand combat system such as Krav Maga will teach you how to deal with that situation..
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 8:15:19 PM EST
dial 911, isn't that what we do when danger is lurking, bahhhhh...bahhhhhh
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 8:16:41 PM EST
Just pick up your Dremel and neuter his bayonet lug ... problem solved.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 8:18:44 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 8:19:18 PM EST
What ?????? Is that a trick question or something?????
Shoot the Bastard before he gets that close !!!!!!
Oh I see its not common sense.....You are worried about all of those evil bayonets that we will be finding out on the streets...........
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 8:26:13 PM EST
The day I see a gang banger or anyone coming to attack me with a bayonet affixed... I will politely hand them my wallet and bend over so they can quietly kill me since I know a bayonet is far superior to my Glock 19 in public and AR/Shotgun at the house.


Link Posted: 9/13/2004 8:42:41 PM EST
shoot em
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 8:49:53 PM EST
Use Diane Feinstein as a buffer
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 8:50:49 PM EST
Don't bring a knife to a gun fight.

Someone had to say it.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 11:10:13 AM EST

Originally Posted By twonami:
Use Diane Feinstein as a buffer

But she's all hot air (for now anyhow - I WOULD NOT underestimate her tenacity as she is quite motivated to get the AWB back now that it has expired).
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 11:25:04 AM EST
Pop pop

thud


- BG


or would it be "thud, clang"?
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 11:36:03 AM EST

Originally Posted By twonami:
Use Diane Feinstein as a buffer



SEE! And you good folks said she has no good use!
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 11:37:18 AM EST
Toss the Holy Hand Grenade at them
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 11:37:34 AM EST

Any tips on how to defend against a bayonet attack?


Shoot the motherfucker?
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 11:38:19 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/14/2004 12:50:37 PM EST by Yojimbo]
Read "Cold Steel", it has some good pointers. It's also one of my favorite classics on CQC...

Link Posted: 9/14/2004 11:45:21 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/14/2004 11:45:52 AM EST by colt_5_5_6]
double taps man,
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 11:50:29 AM EST
ugh... that's three words
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 11:50:38 AM EST
I'd take a knife over a gun any day of the week as it's a vastly superior weapon in the right hands than a firearm is. Generally by the time one realizes one is in a knife fight it's well under the 21 foot rule and if it's under the 21 foot rule it went from bringing a knife to a gun fight to bringing hands to a knife fight.

So how do you defend against a bayonette/knife? Simple step toward the attacker. By closing distance you can then move and otherwise control what your attacker is doing. In the event the bayo is attached to a rifle you're in luck as there's the length of the barrel that is your's to control. Once in control of part of the gun proceed to take full control of it. I recommend gouging eyes, stomping toes, and flicking noses. None are overly lethal but they all smart like no other. Once the rifle is under your control proceed how you choose.

In an unarmed situation I'd advise using a shirt/pants/garbage can lid/belt as a weapon. Again step toward your attacker making him/her have to change attack strategy. Once said strategy has been changed it will take time for them to adapt and in this crucial under a second time you proceed to turn your attacker into a pretzel.

Hi, my name is omega-metroid and I practice knife fighting techniques with friends atleast once a week.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 11:55:37 AM EST
Get DiFi to band bayo lugs. Problem solved.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 12:39:36 PM EST
Cheap and effective:
Wear a 55 gal. drum.
It is recommended that it be a new drum, or a used one with no rust. Do not use one that has had it's strength compromised from being used as a trash burning drum.
Cut the top and bottoms out with an air chisel, recip saw, etc. Do not use a torch!
Be especially careful when removing the top lid. It can be saved and reattached with a hinge in case you want the option of buttoning up, i.e. armored fighting vehicle/tank.
Use Tactical webbing for shoulder straps. It must be Tactical. Accept no substitutes!

For added bayonet protection when using a drum, secure a sleeve around the drum using chicken wire fence and sandbags between the fence and drum. Secure the fence at the bottom, and stagger attach points at the top. The top attachments must be staggered far apart enough in order to allow sandbag placement.

Another option for beefing up your drum is to use tire treads pop-riveted to the drum exterior. Semi-truck trailer tire recaps that are thrown off and laying alongside the expressway are prefered. They are wide, long enough to wrap the drum circumference, and are readily available.

During the turbulant period of '94 - '04, the drum saved my bacon quite a few hair raising times! (who can forget that catchy phrase "When bayonet lugs are outlawed, only outlaws will have bayonet lugs"?)
While I can't prove it, I'm sure there were possible bayonetings I prevented, and may never know about, just from wearing a drum and the beholding of it by crazed bayoneters.

When not able to use the drum, carry a "walking stick" and walk in a crouched Ninja Warrior stance, scanning constantly yet smoothly, with special attention to your six o'clock.
On your "walkink stick" can be attached a certain lug. In case of attack, even the odds by pulling out hidden bayonet and secure it to the stick.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 12:40:34 PM EST

Originally Posted By M11293:
CLick your heels 3 times and say, "I wish Feinstine was here, I wish feinstein was hear, I wish Feinstine was here." A wicked witch will appear and take their bayonets away.



Now that is FUNNY!
Link Posted: 9/25/2004 10:20:15 PM EST
Drop your pants and whip your junk out. Start jerking it. No other guy will want to mess with you while you're jerking it.
Link Posted: 9/25/2004 10:40:18 PM EST
Get in close, and parry. Then spit in their face, shove them back, butt-stroke 'em to knock 'em off balance (optional, but would look better for the news crew's video), and stick 'em.

Or to get it over with quick (quicker being better), parry left and then use your return swing to slash their throat, and THEN stick 'em.

Don't forget to hold your rifle aloft while screaming your best gutteral victory cry, standing over the freshly fallen bad guy. The news guys would love that.
Link Posted: 9/25/2004 10:47:25 PM EST
Seriously, circle out, sidestep and attack attack from 45's. You mave 8 directions of movement Fwd Back, L, R, and diagnally between those L-diagnal fwd, R-Dia fwd, L-Dia bacl R-dia Back. Never meet force with force. Force is easier to redirect or simply step out of the path of. A bayonet is primarily a thrusting weapon a SPEAR in other words it goes forward it makes sense not to be in its path. Stepping at 45's also works with slashes. Basically you are removing yourself from the area the force will reach its maximum potential WHERE YOU WERE STANDING. Also when you redirect just as it reaches its potential you find your oponent is off balance and sometimes will just about throw himself and will at the least overextend leaving you at his side or back if you have the ability to focus your attack you own him. ALWAYS ATTACK YOUR OPPONENTS BALANCE. I have a few years experience in various martial arts this is fundamental Ju Jitsu not that sport shit either the real thing. I hope you garner something useful from it.

Matt
Link Posted: 9/25/2004 11:00:44 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/25/2004 11:01:27 PM EST by Sukebe]
Basic Bayonet fighting offensive movements;
The thrust
The jab
The slash
The horizontal butt stroke
The vertical butt stroke
The smash

Basic Bayonet fighting defensive movments;
Shuffle forward
Shuffle Backward
Shuffle left
Shuffle right
Parry left
Parry right
Link Posted: 9/25/2004 11:05:21 PM EST
"Don't bring a knife to a gun fight."

+1
Link Posted: 9/25/2004 11:08:49 PM EST
Second that! Shot placement! Shot placement! Shot placement! make'em count and you wont need the bayonet.
Link Posted: 9/25/2004 11:30:50 PM EST
Use one of these to cut the bayonet lug off when they get close.



Colt_SBR
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 1:10:34 AM EST
They teach a very good course on bayonet fighting and hand to hand combat you even get to practice on live persons. With Pugel sticks of course.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 1:29:38 AM EST
MZ. fineswine knows the secret to politics well . Apply fear where Control is desired , Wa La .Oh Yea if someone tries to come in my house and bayo us , I have 14 belt-fed , Hi- powered MACHINE GUNS aimed at there nutz or vazinaz attached to a trip wire. I waited till the ban went off before I made it though .
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 9:32:19 AM EST
MOVE TO ENGLAND
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 9:45:48 AM EST

Originally Posted By RR:
MOVE TO ENGLAND



What he said. While you"re at it, take Di/fi and Chuckie with you.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 9:59:23 AM EST
A rifle with a bayonet on it is one of the most deadly weapons around, provided the perform behind it knows how to use it. They can be nearly as deadly as a bostaff, and moreso if you actually SHOOT the gun rather than use it as a club or pugil stick.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 10:04:25 AM EST

Originally Posted By manowar669:
www.swordsandarmor.com/images/CM100_J2Coif.JPG


Nah, chain mail is good against thrusting weapons.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 10:12:30 AM EST


That would make more ideal protection, but personally, I would put a couple of hydroshock .45 cals from my glock in him.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 4:58:45 PM EST
simple, at that range, my old 10 gauge cut down, and BP loading of #4 buckshot. two hammers, two triggers, yank on both. BOOM
problem solved
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 5:07:39 PM EST
safety off deep breath squeeze. several times if need be.heavy.gif
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 5:14:50 PM EST

Originally Posted By SplinterCell:
I'm a little concerned about this issue.



'Best way to survive a knife fight: Bring a GUN!"

Shoot 'em before they get close enough to stick ya...
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 5:35:53 PM EST
Flash hiders. Lots of flash hiders.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 6:11:31 PM EST

Originally Posted By CornFedHusker:
Flash hiders. Lots of flash hiders. hr



With the power of your flash hiders and my collapsible stock combined, we shall conquer!



Wait a minute....
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 8:43:04 PM EST
rum him down with your '66 caddie!
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 9:52:01 PM EST
Jump on top of the guy's rifle like that dude in Kill Bill II, and kick him in the face.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 9:59:27 PM EST
you could throw your attacker some ammo then you wouldn't have to worry about the bayonet.

problem solved, you sure as hell would not be concerned about that bayonet anymore.
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 1:43:45 AM EST
Blood makes the grass grow.
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