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Posted: 9/14/2004 8:27:10 PM EDT
I was just reading the guns and ammo ar15 special issue magazine of the ar15 family variants, and came accross what they called the .50 Beowolf. It was based on the ar15 lower reciever stock assembly and even the ar15 magazines, but the upper reciever an barrel were chambered for the .50 beowolf. It looked identical to the typical ar15 rifle and was even compatible with just about every aftermarket accesory for the ar15. Has anyone one here had any range time with this .50 Beowolf (preferably entry model but not neccesary).
Hows the firearm handle? Is recoil managable? What would you best compare the .50 Beowolfs recoil to in other calibers. Hows the follow up shot time? short, sluggish or just plain non existant from wreching reciol lol I am considering purchasing this new .50 beowolf but wanted to get the low down on this gun before I shelled out $1800 + options for it Thank you for any insight you might be able to offer to this rifle |
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I've never shot one. I'd like one but I think you would want to be into reloading to enjoy it. I've heard it compared to 45-70
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Ok, 45-70 is not too bad at all recoil wise, hoping it has better accuracy then the 45-70 though ( though not knocking the 45 70 ) |
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Definitely want to reload because feeding it is expensive.
Recoil is very much on the 'stout' side of things. |
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The Beowolf upper is on my BUY list. Just a matter of time,
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And thank God for that. A full-auto Beowulf woulf be cruel and unusual punishment. |
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Ah, the .50 Beowulf...think 12 gauge sabot from an AR...that's about what you get from the Beowulf. Recoil is noticable but certainly manageable.
Swing over to the "AR Variants" forum here and get some more info. If you're even asking about it then you need one. |
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Not really......in fact it is a lot of fun Certainly not the most controllable thing in the world but it's a hell of a ride. I put 8 or 9 7rd mags through my upper on a friends registered lower. Here's a vid: gmbsc.com/vids/Jbeowulf.mpg Mine just got a facelift |
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Well I wont be able to purchase a class 3 anyways as I dont have the permit but watching that video ( several times ) it seems decent enough on recoil. Theres odviouse recoil there but that barrel dont climb nearly as much as I would have imagined. That video helped me out alot, thanks for posting ithe |
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My pleasure.
I would suggest just getting a lower and buying an alexander arms upper though. I think it will be considerably cheaper that way. My upper was $600 and I just slapped it on a spare DPMS lower that was hanging out in the safe. Now I just need to get an MWG 90 rounder to try out(want to see how many .50beo rounds I can stuff in there and try that out in full auto at my next shoot) and some Leitner-Wise 12 rounders |
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That right!?! the existing magaizines are used to feed the 50's into the firearm... lol I definately gotta get one now an get me a few drums like the one you had mentioned. Let me know how many you can get in there ok, thanks |
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I have had good luck with Thermold 30 round .223 mags...they hold 10 rounds of .50beo. Aluminum USGI mags have been hit or miss and I haven't wanted to mess around with my feedlips because I have a number of .223 AR's that I use those mags for.
I mostly just use the factory 7 rounder in the .50 These LW mags should work great....kind of pricey but I need to pick up a couple. sf1000.registeredsite.com/~user233111/miva/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=L&Product_Code=21-LW15499A6&Category_Code=A1 I should have an MWG drum in a couple weeks. I'll post if it works or not |
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Pirahna,
I shot one of Alexander Arms' guns last year at Gunstock. It was a blast to shoot.......both literally and figuratively speaking. The felt recoil seemed to be less than a 12 gauge. I have since bought a Tromix upper chambered in .50AE. I love it! It's a rush to shoot, has a huge fireball at the muzzle, and it is LOUD!!! Smiles and thrills. I chose the Tromix upper in .50AE because I have a Desert Eagle in the same caliber. I'm already setup to load for that caliber, so the choice was easy. I feel the Alexander Arms products are high quality, but the Tromix products are equally top notch. Tony Rumore is great to work with(owner of Tromix). The .50AE recoil is stout! It's like a 12 gauge #4 shot. It'll definately put recoil pad marks on your shoulder. I hope this helps. Good luck, and have a blessed day. Peace, Dragonfire52 |
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cool, I am greatly awaiting the conclusion of the results from the MWG drums, thanks |
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Yet more good news regarding the firearm... and yet theres now a second option ( regarding the Tronic upper chambered in the .50 AE ). Any one have any knowledge in the balistic variances between the .50 Beowolf or the .50 AE? Thinking the .50 Beowolf would typically be more accurate then the 50 AE, but not enturely certain on that one |
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The LW mags (new ones - old ones have been discontinued) now hold 14 rounds and work in the Beowulf. They are currently testing a double stack design which holds 25 rounds but is no longer than the 10 rounder, they also have a twin drum (like a Beta mag) design which holds 60 and is undergoing final shakedown.
HFG |
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www.competitionshootingsports.com/
These guys have what seems to be good prices on Beowulf uppers, so check them out. And don't forget about the .458 SOCOM as an option for a big bore AR. Here are two makers of it who are very reputable. Teppo Jutsu is doing and has done group buys for 458 uppers here on ar15.com. Check out the one i the EE right now (though it's almost done, finally!) www.tromix.com www.teppojutsu.com |
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Looks like it might be time to visit with the L-W guys.... |
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Close, but not quite. 458 SOCOM and 50 Beowulf share same base diameter but not the same rim diameter (SOCOM is larger than Beowulf in rim size). Also, SOCOM is 4mm shorter to allow use of longer 300 gr Barnes X Spitzer M |
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Weren't the old LW mags the straight waffled mags? -Cap'n |
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+1 |
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I have owned a Beowulf .50 for about a year. I think the recoil is a little greater than most 12 gauges, but that's a very subjective thing. I put a recoil pad on mine (from a place called Long Range Solutions, or something like that). Pad replaced the factory butt plate and was expensive, but was worth every penny.
Accuracy at 100 yds with a 2x Aimpoint sight is about 2 inches with the 325 grain ammo. The 334 grain ammo was more like 3 inches IIRC. This is an awesome weapon for Russian boars. Have yet to have one take a single step after being hit. Assuming you already have an AR-15 you can order the Beowulf upper from a number of places, including Cabela's. I believe Cabela's also sells ammo for it, but they don't stock all the various weights. |
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The 50AE will toss a Speer 325gr bullet out of a 16" tube at 1800+ fps. I am not sure on the Beowulf, but I thought it was rated at 1900fps with a 350gr.
Whether you go with a 440CB, 458 SOCOM, 499 LW, 50AE, or 50B you have plenty of power to knock the crap out of whatever you hit with it. |
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Just checking in to see if there was any word back on that MWg drum VTDefender was going to try out.
I watched that video ,that was kick *ss. Can't miss that big brass flying out of it. And I agree with Tony, Any of these big bores listed would definitely put major hurt on what ever the target is. |
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Amen, brother |
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Yes, those were the ones built by PRI and they were sh*t, just like their 6.8 mags - new ones work and work well. HFG |
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Sorry bout the long reply time to your posts here guys, had a family emergency that required me to travel and have extended stay out of state to deal with the issue at hand, but back now.
I currently do not have an AR15 and was looking to purchase one soon but will be going with the 7.62 x 39mm round rather then the standard .223. The reasoning behind this is simply because I purchase bulk ammo for my guns and rather buying several different types of calibers, I would rather purchase more of the same caliberhug.gif. I purchase 1000 round battle packs of 7.62 x 39mm Wolf Performance Ammunition at $89.00 a case and includes a new military ammo can for each case, I have a romanian AK-47 with very light modifications to it currently with more planned for it but when I purchase an AR15 in 7.63 x 39mm I will purchase 2 cases of ammo at a time... I like to have 1000 rounds for each gun I own ( just in case some particular religouse group gets any more drastic ideas if ya know what I mean lol ) |
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