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Posted: 6/14/2009 8:40:38 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/14/2009 10:27:42 AM EST by skeeters65]
I really like the LMT but it is too heavy and too long.
The Vltor club foot fixes both those problems..

Want to try a UBR but cant find one..

What does ARFCOM say??
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:46:25 AM EST
UBR is heavier than the SOPMOD and Vltor.

I, for one, Like my facial hair so it is SOPMOD and UBR for me. I sold my Vltor...
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 9:02:21 AM EST
Gotta say, you don't hear a lot of complaints about the SOPMOD.

I've had a SOPMOD for years and have never considered a change. The cheekweld is awesome and the water tight storage a big plus.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 9:04:14 AM EST
I have a
LMT D2000 M4 came with SOPMOD

Bushmaster VLTOR lower
LMT M4 upper

SOPMOD is the better STOCK of the 2 M4`s I have

My LMT D2000 M4 is Balance out well


I will never sell my SOPMOD fits ME great

The VLTOR well Its on my back Up M4
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 9:05:51 AM EST
Keep the Sopmod.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 9:06:09 AM EST
BTW

I dont grow a long beard but have gone without shaveing awhile

I never had problems with VLTOR & HAIR

maybe you have to grow it real long
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 9:06:12 AM EST
I wouldn't even consider anything other than Vltor. Unless it is strictly long range, I would use the JAE-100.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 9:12:20 AM EST
You run the LMT closed and its still too long?
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 9:18:51 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/14/2009 9:25:27 AM EST by FMJ]
Originally Posted By DevL:
You run the LMT closed and its still too long?




I use a PR-4 mount for my 1pt BH sling
I cant close all the way
Im on the next setting
its around 9 inches +

Im only 5`9

all the way closed is to short for me while shooting outside


THE VLTOR closed all the way my Bushy/LMT 14.5 is 30.5 inches

would be good for my 12year old daughter

Or shooting inside My house
But if I was that worried I would go 10.5 or 11.5




Link Posted: 6/14/2009 9:20:46 AM EST
-I have never had a facial hair problem with the Vltor. I have 2 of them on other guns..
-I love the molded rubber buttpad on the SOPMOD
-I run the SOPMOD all the way closed and it is the same length as a Vltor on the #2 spot which is where I run it 99% of the time and is perfect for me. The problem is if I want to go shorter in winter or somthing I cant like I can with the Vltor. The opther problem with length is with the SOPMOD all the way closed there isnt much room for my Magpul ASP sling attachment and MS2 sling..
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 9:26:45 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/14/2009 9:33:53 AM EST by FMJ]
Originally Posted By skeeters65:
-I have never had a facial hair problem with the Vltor. I have 2 of them on other guns..
-I love the molded rubber buttpad on the SOPMOD
-I run the SOPMOD all the way closed and it is the same length as a Vltor on the #2 spot which is where I run it 99% of the time and is perfect for me. The problem is if I want to go shorter in winter or somthing I cant like I can with the Vltor. The opther problem with length is with the SOPMOD all the way closed there isnt much room for my Magpul ASP sling attachment and MS2 sling..




Have you tried taken off rubber butt pad on SOPMOD it snaps on

My LMT 14.5
Bushmaster lower
VLTOR

its 30.5 inches with stock closed all the way

I admitt my D2000 SOPMOD w/ PR-4 is longer than my Spare/Back up M4




In cold weather and heavy coat I could see what your talking about

I havent shot in the cold for awhile



BTW

My DAd was a sarge in the AF in the early 60`s
I have his winter coat with the wolf fur
I will never get rid of it? even after moveing to SWFL 5/6 years ago



I will try it on with SOPMOD/PR-4 mount Im 5`9 with my shoes
and compare it with my 30.5 LMT/Bushy VLTOR
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 9:38:07 AM EST
FWIW, a piece of tape covering the groove on the Vltor stock where the battery tube and stock meet will solve the facial hair issue I use rubberized tape on both sides so I can shoot weak side as well.

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Link Posted: 6/14/2009 9:39:10 AM EST
EMOD FTMFW.........and I have facial hair.

the storage compartment is sweet too, I keep a little bottle of larue machine gunners lube in there.

and a cookie, for when I'm in the shower.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 10:16:39 AM EST
The EMOD are longer and heavier than the SOPMOD so if you wanted a shorter and lighter stock, the EMOD would be a wrong choice for you.

I've got three Vltor Modstocks, standard carbine, clubfoot, and EMOD, my standard carbine Modstock fit the most loose on my LMT and Vltor milspec size buffer tubes.

I'd suggest maybe waiting for the soon to be released Magpul ACS carbine stock which locks up tight like the CTR stock but have a better cheek weld, storage space and lighter than the EMOD.


Link Posted: 6/14/2009 10:28:15 AM EST
Sorry I didnt specify but switching to a Vltor Clubfoot stock not the E-MOD...
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 10:40:17 AM EST
I love my sopmods.
But its your rifle, so you can do whatever you want with it.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 10:46:46 AM EST

Originally Posted By noveske18:
Keep the Sopmod.


Link Posted: 6/14/2009 11:10:42 AM EST
Yes. Sopmod is a better stock all around. I have both.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 11:13:09 AM EST
I have only one Sopmod and several carbines. In general the Sopmod gets popped on whichever carbine I am using at the time.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 11:36:48 AM EST
I have the Vltor club foot and the Vltor Emod. I hate how long and heavy the Emod is but I love the butt pad and how it shoulders. I have the slip on pad for the club foot but don't like it, wish they would make it like the emod, it would be the perfect stock!
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 12:17:44 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/14/2009 12:18:19 PM EST by survivorman]
keep the Sopmod......I was in the same boat I wanted to possibly swap the Sopmod for a standard VLTOR carbine stock........fondled them both just the other day.


Here is what I noticed:

the VLTOR stock is not that much shorter than the Sopmod

the Sopmod was a bit heavier......then I took off the rubber but pad from the back...it snaps right off. After that the weight of both were pretty much on par with each other.

the Sopmod has a better cheek weld




take the rubber but pad off......I swear those things are what make the sopmod heavier. Keep the Sopmod stock
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 12:47:25 PM EST
Ditch the sopmod!
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 1:08:36 PM EST
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 1:11:49 PM EST
I have the EMOD , CTR and Facial Hair and I like them all .The SOPMOD was my first choice but i just couldnt bring myself to spend the extra coin .
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 1:24:07 PM EST
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 1:27:07 PM EST
I hat the CTR Cheekweld..

I have a few Vltor stocks.. I wish I could take the features from each and make my own stock..
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 1:31:44 PM EST
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 1:33:20 PM EST
I will gladly trade you an anib EMod for the SOPMOD!!
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 1:43:57 PM EST
I dont want an EMOD
Thanks anyway..
If you have a UBR we can talk..
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 2:00:07 PM EST

VLTOR all the way.

i used a SOPMOD for a few years and the first time i picked up an M4 with the VLTOR i was sold.

for me, i like the fact that the VLTOR is slightly angled at the rear. for me it's more comfortable to shoot.

my LMT and Bushy both have modstocks and i have a modstock on my desk for when my form 4 SBR gets here




i'm in the process of finding a perfect solution for the face hair/VLTOR issue. i'll let you know what i come up with.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 2:23:31 PM EST
Originally Posted By GreenM4Guy:
Ditch both and a get a CTR



I tried a few and they're nice but after a few months I switched back to the Sopmod. The standard Vltor is better than the standard M4 but I'm actually partial to the fiberlight CAR stocks too.....
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 2:24:29 PM EST
If you want to sell it, Email me.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 5:00:50 PM EST
Originally Posted By Stickman:
Have you been able to try the different ones out? Each of them is going to feel different and have pros and cons based off the individual user.




9/10

lots of goodness in this but for the perfect 10 smear some emag on.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 5:01:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/14/2009 5:06:54 PM EST by FMJ]
Originally Posted By Alpha-Romeo3:
The EMOD are longer and heavier than the SOPMOD so if you wanted a shorter and lighter stock, the EMOD would be a wrong choice for you.

I've got three Vltor Modstocks, standard carbine, clubfoot, and EMOD, my standard carbine Modstock fit the most loose on my LMT and Vltor milspec size buffer tubes.

I'd suggest maybe waiting for the soon to be released Magpul ACS carbine stock which locks up tight like the CTR stock but have a better cheek weld, storage space and lighter than the EMOD.




+1

OP
I have the carbine reg VLTOR with a little SLOP
its lite and shorter than SOPMOD

Havent even seen ACS I dont shop or look any more

Link Posted: 6/14/2009 6:01:35 PM EST
Ditch the SOPMOD. I'll IM you my address for where to send it!
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 6:05:22 PM EST
the UBRs are some heavysumbitches
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:21:25 PM EST
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:23:56 PM EST
Originally Posted By Stickman:
Originally Posted By CLICKBANGBANG:
Originally Posted By Stickman:
Have you been able to try the different ones out? Each of them is going to feel different and have pros and cons based off the individual user.

http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Magpul%20III/IMG_7965%201028%20stick.jpg


9/10

lots of goodness in this but for the perfect 10 smear some emag on.





EMag and ACS all in one picture?



http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Magpul%20III/IMG_8365%201028%20stick.jpg


10/10 I raged, I probably can't buy those for another 5 years
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:29:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/14/2009 8:30:06 PM EST by Stickman]
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 12:37:50 AM EST
Originally Posted By Stickman:
The ACS is a lot less complicated than the UBR, my guess is that they will be a pretty steadily supplied item when they are released. As far as the EMAG, I don't think there is a huge priority for them when compared to other Magpul projects, so I would guess they will take longer to see. I'll point out that this is just a guess on my part.


Ahh, Stickman, your sigline killed me! At least the last line.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 1:03:20 AM EST
Originally Posted By Stickman:
Originally Posted By CLICKBANGBANG:
Originally Posted By Stickman:
Have you been able to try the different ones out? Each of them is going to feel different and have pros and cons based off the individual user.

http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Magpul%20III/IMG_7965%201028%20stick.jpg


9/10

lots of goodness in this but for the perfect 10 smear some emag on.





EMag and ACS all in one picture?



http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Magpul%20III/IMG_8365%201028%20stick.jpg





STICKMAN

The ACS Stock LOOKS like a nice telestock
I havent yet seen one at the gun shop!

But if the ACS has the nice cheek weld like the SOPMOD and Fits nice
It may be a winner



Do you carry them ? if so what is the retail


Link Posted: 6/15/2009 7:17:46 AM EST
I took my SOPMOD off and put on a CTR.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 7:51:52 AM EST
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 8:20:41 AM EST
Keep he LMT....
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