Posted: 3/26/2006 7:30:45 PM EDT
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Quoted: I was planning on purchasing an upper to build another AR in an alternate caliber. I was trying to decide on one from the following categories for a sporting/target rifle:
1) The .50 Beowulf or the .458 SOCOM. 2) The 6.5 Grendel or the 6.8 SPC. 3) The .338 Spectre or the .300 Whisper.
The factors I was considering are:
1) Availability and cost of factory ammunition. .50 B - ammo right now a lot cheaper, Wolf will make it even more so, limited variety of loads due to mentioned smaller selection of projectiles. Ammo likely more readily found .458 S - ammo is costly, talks with CorBon underway and at least two other makers are expressing interest to make it. Due to plethora of bullets out there, more loads feasible. At least one custom loader getting set up to load what ever you want (within reason) 6.5 Grendel ammo to be offered by Wolf, making it cheap, however, 6.8 ammo becoming more available. Not sure how pricing stacks up. Suspect 6.8 might be more easily found .300 W ammo can be had from CorBon in two loads IIRC. Not cheap. 338 S from Reed's ammo in 10 or so different loads, priced less than some factory ammo I have seen in yellow and green boxes. Neither will be as cheap as bulk surplus. Order from Reed as he is only source right now. 2) Availability and cost of upper. With RRA in the game, .458 and .50 uppers are similarly priced. Hard pressed to find totally custom .50 uppers, with the .458 there are three sources for these. Have not seen any sources for SBR/pistol uppers for the .50B Several folks making 6.8s and at least 3 places offer 6.5s. Have not checked prices, but most 6.8s seem to be "cookie cutter" whereas most all 6.5s seem to be custom. .300 W uppers can be found several places under different names (300 Fireball, 300-221) Priced competitively with 6.8 and .223 uppers. .338 S for now from only one source, cost depends on what you want installed. All uppers match grade barrels due to twist rate needed. 3) Commonality of magazines to 5.56mm. .458 designed to be used with stock 5.56 mags. Not aware of any that don't work and some custom stuff in the works. 50 B have seen reports suggesting minor fitting of mags (lips) but not all the time. Would appear both about the same I guess 6.8 requires dedicated mags, 5.56 mags WILL NOT WORK. Aware of two makers (Creative Products and PRI) 6.5 requires dedicated mags, not sure about sources other than AA or CSS .300 W uses stock 5.56 mags. 338 S uses 6.8 mags (see above) 4) Magazine capacity. .50 B and .458 S share parent case, so mag capacity identical, 30 round 5.56 will hold 10 6.8 and 6.5 require dedicated mags. Seen different versions for both, but IIRC 6.8 has 28 max and 6.5 has 25 max .300 W using stock 5.56 mags can use ANY in that caliber, so aside from 30 rounders, Beta drums are an option ... for the 338, stick with the 6.8 mags and you are limited to 28 for now 5) Disadvantages, benefits, and effectiveness of the different calibers. I don't think I have enough time or space to write all of this, I would recommend the various FAQ for the differnet calibers. I can give the 10,000 ft overview .50 and .458 are kissing cousins, whatever you hit with either won't know the difference. Only big difference I can think of is due to some of the projos available for the .458 that handloaders might have more options to them. Also, 600 gr subsonic factory load for those that need/want it 6.8 v 6.5 - I ain't EVEN sticking my finger in that hornet's nest. There are whole websites dedicated to that discussion. .300 W and .338 S. Both are meant for specific application: subsonic suppressed work. 300 W has the advantage of stock mags and HUGE bullet selection. For the INTENDED application, the 338 S has 10% larger bullet diameter and 25% heavier bullet, meaning more energy on target and gel tests have shown it will tumble AND penetrate. If you can wait a few weeks, we have a new round in the works to compete with the .300 6) Likelihood that the caliber will be available in 20 years. I haven't a clue ... but I would venture that 20 years from now, components could be found provided everyone does their duty and elects the appropriate people into and OUT of office. Other than that, the 6.8 MIGHT be more commonly found at that time in the future but who knows.
Any feedback from someone who owns several ARs in the aforementioned calibers would be appreciated.
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