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Posted: 6/9/2018 11:19:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/9/2018 11:55:15 PM EDT by TacticalTavorian]
Ok guys I bought an Aimpoint Pro and also demo’d 2 others ones with the same results and I have questions about the brightness levels.

First let’s clear this up: the usual “off” position on the dial is actually position 1. The last / “Super Bright” setting is position 10.

I have to use the brightest setting outdoors during the daytime whether it’s sunny or cloudy for it to be bright enough. If I go down one setting from max I can see the dot still but it’s pretty dim. (I live in the south)

Indoors fully lit daytime I use the second to last setting (9) and that’s bright enough for me but If I use the 3rd to last setting (8) I really have to search for that dot to find it.

I can use setting 8 for indoors dimly lit at night, sometimes 9.

I use setting 7 for an almost blacked out indoors setting at night.

Does this seem normal? I’ve researched as much as I could online and the results are very mixed (I understand everyone’s eyes are different). Some people say they never go higher than 5-7 outdoors in sunlight. I can’t even see the dot on 7 outdoors during the DAY. So I thought we’re could gather a lot of Aimpoint PRO users to see what’s normal.
Online research with lots of other forums and reviews have opposite results... some say the PRO is plenty bright and way too bright on a few settings and that you’ll never need to use and you’ll never use the super bright setting even outdoors on a really bright sunny day. The other side says they basically only have a couple daytime(NON-night vision) settings that really work for them.

Just to be clear: The max setting (10) is bright enough for outside daytime / bright sun. But no other setting is suitable in these conditions which is shocking to me. I feel I should I should be able to have more than one brightness setting that works outside during the day. Now indoors fully lit settings 9 and 10 are bright enough although setting 10 can be too bright (shows a red ring around the lens edges) but anything below setting 9 indoors fully lit is not bright enough.

I’m just trying to figure out what’s normal and hope it helps others as well.

FYI: I’m using all new batteries on 3 different Aimpoint PRO’s. And I do understand the first 4 settings are for night vision.
Link Posted: 6/9/2018 11:22:04 PM EDT
Not really familiar with that sight, but seems you should have more adjustment than to have to have it almost max just to see the dot. Did you try new batteries?

BTW, I responded to your email about 10 minutes ago.
Link Posted: 6/9/2018 11:28:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By La26:
Not really familiar with that sight, but seems you should have more adjustment than to have to have it almost max just to see the dot. Did you try new batteries?

BTW, I responded to your email about 10 minutes ago.
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Hey thanks so much! I’ll check my email.

I am using new batteries.

In broad day light, setting 10 is the only usable one. Setting 9 is barely visible.
Link Posted: 6/9/2018 11:37:03 PM EDT
My PRO is pretty much the same. Last setting outdoors, which is barely acceptable. Second to last setting indoors. Seems like the first 4 or 5 settings are useless unless you have NV. I'm less than impressed with my PRO as my RMR blows it away as far as brightness.
Link Posted: 6/9/2018 11:45:30 PM EDT
Why I didnt buy them . really want to go with the PRO since I cant use Eotechs anymore I thought it was me or just the PRO. I only got to play with one though.
Link Posted: 6/9/2018 11:49:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kb1:
My PRO is pretty much the same. Last setting outdoors, which is barely acceptable. Second to last setting indoors. Seems like the first 4 or 5 settings are useless unless you have NV. I'm less than impressed with my PRO as my RMR blows it away as far as brightness.
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Well this is good to know that I’m not the only one.

And I agree about those first 5 settings - I can BARELY see setting 5 in a very very dark room, and that’s suppose to be the first daytime setting.

FWIW - this is the only red dot I’ve experienced like this when it comes to lack of brightness and it’s settings.
Link Posted: 6/9/2018 11:59:38 PM EDT
FWIW, mine is brand new with factory batteries. At some point I may get around to changing out the batteries, but it appears some people have had issues with the brightness that are not battery related and are the sight itself.
Link Posted: 6/10/2018 12:13:16 AM EDT
Something is wrong. The highest I've shot mine is setting 7 on a bright day. If I crank it up to 9 or 10 it's way too bright and I see the reflection off the inside of the housing.

Having said that, my Comp M4S is a way nicer sight. Well worth the money.
Link Posted: 6/10/2018 12:17:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By kb1:
FWIW, mine is brand new with factory batteries. At some point I may get around to changing out the batteries, but it appears some people have had issues with the brightness that are not battery related and are the sight itself.
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When you say brightness issues ... you mean an actual defect that was confined and fixed by Aimpoint?

For me I’m trying to debate returning it or sending it into Aimpoint to check out. But i hate having to send in a brand new item under warranty... especially if there’s nothing wrong and this is normal.
Link Posted: 6/10/2018 12:18:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JBecker_72:
Something is wrong. The highest I've shot mine is setting 7 on a bright day. If I crank it up to 9 or 10 it's way too bright and I see the reflection off the inside of the housing.

Having said that, my Comp M4S is a way nicer sight. Well worth the money.
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Ok so when you state your experience of never going higher than 7... was that on a PRO or M4S?
Link Posted: 6/10/2018 12:20:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By TacticalTavorian:

Ok so when you state your experience of never going higher than 7... was that on a PRO or M4S?
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That is on my Pro. The Comp M4S seems to go a little brighter and also has a crisper dot. It's also built like a friggin tank compared to the Pro.
Link Posted: 6/10/2018 12:23:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JBecker_72:
That is on my Pro. The Comp M4S seems to go a little brighter and also has a crisper dot. It's also built like a friggin tank compared to the Pro.
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Ok thats good to know. I wonder why others have such dimmer settings similar to my experience. And for me it’s not cuz of batteries.

Oh yah I’m sure the M4 is awesome... just not in my price range.
Link Posted: 6/10/2018 12:27:15 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/10/2018 12:27:38 AM EDT
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Definitely get it checked out. When I crank my Pro up to the max setting it's very bright. Even when lighting up a dark room with a 600 lumen Surefire Scout Ultra. That seems to wash out the dot more than a bright sunny day.
Link Posted: 6/10/2018 2:04:03 AM EDT
On my Pro, I use setting 7... That settkng is plenty bright to see the dot against a white wall 5 ft away with a bright weapon light shining on the wall.

7 is bright enough for most daylight shooting, but I might go to 8 or 9 if it is very bright and the target is light in color.

Generally I find the brightness acceptable, but it isn't the brightest red dot sight.
Link Posted: 6/11/2018 9:50:58 PM EDT
For accuracy I set the brightness one click higher than when I first see the dot. Relatively dim is more conducive to small groups IME.

I only go a click or two higher for action shooting. I can't take looking at the damn thing turned all the way up, even on the brightest days. It's too bright for me.

In the house, especially at night, it's set very low.
Link Posted: 6/12/2018 10:41:05 AM EDT
the first 4 or 5 settings are for night vision . it tells you that in the maual . I also seldom go past 7 maybe 8 if Im out in a field at high noon . if you think its broke send it back they will fix it .
Link Posted: 6/12/2018 9:28:49 PM EDT
My M4S is the same way. I have to go max on sunny days.
Link Posted: 6/13/2018 9:31:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By fuzzy03cls:
My M4S is the same way. I have to go max on sunny days.
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Crazy. So varying results again.

Thank you for chiming in.
Link Posted: 6/13/2018 10:22:20 AM EDT
Aimpoint asked me to send mine in. Curious to see if there is any difference when it comes back.
Link Posted: 6/13/2018 11:51:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By kb1:
Aimpoint asked me to send mine in. Curious to see if there is any difference when it comes back.
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Yah lemme know

I’d be very interested to hear the results.
Link Posted: 6/15/2018 7:34:24 PM EDT
Had my PRO at the range today. Setting 9 shooting underneath overhead canopy. Setting 10 too bright, setting 8 I was using for shooting Clay's at 100 yards.
Link Posted: 6/15/2018 9:14:58 PM EDT
I have two dot sights on two rifles - a SIG cheapo mini red-dot and an MRO. Both are approximately the same in brightness/numbers. For example, in the above situation (shooting at the range under a roof) I will be way down at around #3 to get a less fuzzy dot that I can still see. Out in the sunlight, I might get up to #5 or #6 on either one. At night, we're talking maybe #1. Personally I would not own a red-dot that wasn't usable except in the brightest range. Sounds like a defect in that unit or a design defect in all of them. Hopefully for you it will be in your unit and they'll replace it. Otherwise I guess you'll have to eat it and get a better sight.
Link Posted: Today 10:41:04 AM EDT
I got my first ever PRO today and wondered the same thing. It's definitely not as bright as my T2, RMRs or Razor GII 1-6. I might try a different battery.
Link Posted: Today 12:22:25 PM EDT
I tried another model at a Cabela’s far away from where I live and the brightness seemed to be better. But it was in different conditions so it’s hard to make a solid comparison.
Link Posted: Today 12:45:43 PM EDT
I may buy a killflash just to see if it makes a difference. Otherwise I'll be ponying up for another T2. I love everything else about the PRO though especially in a LT150 mount.
Link Posted: Today 2:15:38 PM EDT
I like the PRO a lot too. Just want better brightness levels.
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