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Posted: 10/1/2005 11:55:53 AM EDT
As I get further into my building stage Im noticing the standard grip on my A2 is a.) too far angled to the rear to be comfortable for me and b.) my hand chokes up way to far on it.

Any of you have the same problems? Which grip did you choose to remedy this well?

I'm looking at the Ergo grip and the Hogue rubberized grip. They seem pretty standard in their price and performance.
Link Posted: 10/1/2005 12:08:30 PM EDT
[#1]

Quoted:
As I get further into my building stage Im noticing the standard grip on my A2 is a.) too far angled to the rear to be comfortable for me and b.) my hand chokes up way to far on it.
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You of course realize your hand is SUPPOSED be choked up on it so;
a) it's easy to reach the safety

and

b) your finger will be pulling straight back on the trigger for a proper trigger pull.

Stick with an aftermarket grip that keeps the original angle.  The Tango Down is a very good grip and it has storage for batteries.
Link Posted: 10/1/2005 12:12:37 PM EDT
[#2]
The Hogue rubberized grip is nice, but, It is "fat" and makes the operation of the safety a bit difficult... I encountered this problem with a couple of Bushmaster carbines and had to remove a few thousands off of the back of the safety switch to clear the protruding grip...

The "First Samco G-27" grip is a very nice grip... It too has the storage compartment...

Link Posted: 10/1/2005 12:28:56 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
The Hogue rubberized grip is nice, but, It is "fat" and makes the operation of the safety a bit difficult... I encountered this problem with a couple of Bushmaster carbines and had to remove a few thousands off of the back of the safety switch to clear the protruding grip...

The "First Samco G-27" grip is a very nice grip... It too has the storage compartment...

www.bushmaster.com/shopping/buttstocks/Images/fbs-g27.jpg




i like the g27 as well




but to find out what works best for "you" then you will have to feel for them yourself. some works better than others and fit differently
Link Posted: 10/1/2005 12:32:47 PM EDT
[#4]
Just get the MIAD, it gives you enough options where you are bound to find whats perfect for you.
Link Posted: 10/1/2005 12:34:35 PM EDT
[#5]
You want to make sure you dont keep the original grip style.  It was designed for people to use it with excetionally tiny hands at the expense of normal men.  The worst choics for normal to large hands is probably the Tango Down.  If you dont like the factory grip stay away from this grip its even worse in the ergonomics department.  Too narrow up top and way too fat on the bottom.  Maintains the cramped trigger finger problem and you cant comfortably place the web of your hand into the grip without causing your trigger finger to be bunched up and angled down.

Look for a grip with beavertail backstrap.  It will allow you to place the web of your hand into the arch and have the trigger finger in the right location and spaced back if you have med to large hands.  The arched back strap in the palm area is too fill larger hands better but its not needed of you are medium sized in the hands or use gloves.  The three grips that I have used that have the propper beavertail for my hand size are the Ergo, the G27 and MIAD.

The Ergo is narrower than the factory grip.  Females and small handed people usually like it if they have fingers long enough to manipulate the safety.  Mine are med/large so it was too narrow.  It has no storage and mild finger grooves.

G27 is wider than factory and feels pretty good.  I dont like the prominent finger grooves and the grip storage is NOT waterproof and frankly kind of ghetto.  Not a bad grip though.

MIAD is wider than factory but narrower by a smidge than the G27.  I prefer it because of its superior grip stoage and modularity.  The beavertail is the same as the G27 but the arched back strap has the arch centered in the back strap instead of peaking slightly lower where it should be.  I use the beavertailed backstrap with no arch for this reason.  I also like the fact it can have no finger grooves on the front strap.
Link Posted: 10/1/2005 12:39:47 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
You want to make sure you dont keep the original grip style.  It was designed for people to use it with excetionally tiny hands at the expense of normal men.  The worst choics for normal to large hands is probably the Tango Down.  If you dont like the factory grip stay away from this grip its even worse in the ergonomics department.  Too narrow up top and way too fat on the bottom.  Maintains the cramped trigger finger problem and you cant comfortably place the web of your hand into the grip without causing your trigger finger to be bunched up and angled down.

Look for a grip with beavertail backstrap.  It will allow you to place the web of your hand into the arch and have the trigger finger in the right location and spaced back if you have med to large hands.  The arched back strap in the palm area is too fill larger hands better but its not needed of you are medium sized in the hands or use gloves.  The three grips that I have used that have to propper beavertail are the Ergo, the G27 and MIAD.

The Ergo is narrower than the factory grip.  Females and small handed people usually like it if they have fingers long enough to manipulate the safety.  Mine are med/large so it was too narrow.  It has no storage and mild finger grooves.

G27 is wider than factory and feels pretty good.  I dont like the prominent finger grooves and the grip storage is NOT waterproof and frankly kind of ghetto.  Not a bad grip though.

MIAD is wider than factory but narrower by a smidge than the G27.  I prefer it because of its superior grip stoage and modularity.  The beavertail is the same as the G27 but the arched back strap has the arch centered in the back strap instead of peaking slightly lower where it should be.  I use the beavertailed backstrap with no arch for this reason.  I also like the fact it can have no finger grooves on the front strap.



Now THATS what Im talking about...man I feel smarter just by simply reading this thing...whew so much to take in...must....find...miad....


-edit- Ok just checked out the MIAD, and it looks like it still has the same grip angle? Am I wrong about this? The g27 looks like it has a straighter angle to it.
Link Posted: 10/1/2005 12:44:10 PM EDT
[#7]
I like the Hogue and the rubberized ergo-grip.
Link Posted: 10/1/2005 1:15:34 PM EDT
[#8]
All AR grips have the same grip angle other than the pachmeyer (sp?)

Once you uncramp your hand the grip angle is determined in large part to the bolt screw angle.  Noone deviates much from the propper angle.  If you are still uncomfortable with the grip after installing a MIAD I guarantee you you are you are using an incorrect stance and grip on the weapon.  Same goes for people who cant shoot NTCH with a carbine.

My guess is you are chicken winging your strong arm if your wrist is bothered by the grip angle.  I hate Glocks grip angle and like the 1911 style angle so I like a grip more vertically positioned.  The AR has a near perfect angle.
Link Posted: 10/1/2005 1:20:00 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
All AR grips have the same grip angle other than the pachmeyer (sp?)

Once you uncramp your hand the grip angle is determined in large part to the bolt screw angle.  Noone deviates much from the propper angle.  If you are still uncomfortable with the grip after installing a MIAD I guarantee you you are you are using an incorrect stance and grip on the weapon.  Same goes for people who cant shoot NTCH with a carbine.

My guess is you are chicken winging your strong arm if your wrist is bothered by the grip angle.  I hate Glocks grip angle and like the 1911 style angle so I like a grip more vertically positioned.  The AR has a near perfect angle.



I'll take your word on it. I'll let you know when I get the new grip, Ditto on the pistols. I HATE the Glock grip with a passion, but the 1911 fits my hand PERFECTLY. With that said I think your hands and mine are about the same size. Which grip did you yourself end up settling with?
Link Posted: 10/1/2005 1:31:06 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Just get the MIAD, it gives you enough options where you are bound to find whats perfect for you.



+1

Just got one and the hogue got thrown in the spare parts box instantly.
Link Posted: 10/1/2005 1:56:50 PM EDT
[#11]

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I like the Hogue and the rubberized ergo-grip.



Hogue on all of mine

very comfortable, just tacky enough, and has a natural feel

Great $20 upgrade



at finer AR15 accessory dealers everywhere
Link Posted: 10/1/2005 2:22:12 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:

Quoted:
All AR grips have the same grip angle other than the pachmeyer (sp?)

Once you uncramp your hand the grip angle is determined in large part to the bolt screw angle.  Noone deviates much from the propper angle.  If you are still uncomfortable with the grip after installing a MIAD I guarantee you you are you are using an incorrect stance and grip on the weapon.  Same goes for people who cant shoot NTCH with a carbine.

My guess is you are chicken winging your strong arm if your wrist is bothered by the grip angle.  I hate Glocks grip angle and like the 1911 style angle so I like a grip more vertically positioned.  The AR has a near perfect angle.



I'll take your word on it. I'll let you know when I get the new grip, Ditto on the pistols. I HATE the Glock grip with a passion, but the 1911 fits my hand PERFECTLY. With that said I think your hands and mine are about the same size. Which grip did you yourself end up settling with?



MIAD smooth front strap, smooth front strap B2 back strap.
Link Posted: 10/1/2005 2:26:59 PM EDT
[#13]
Aftermarket Pistol Grip Preference..

Guess I prefer the 'before market' ones - I use the A1.
Link Posted: 10/1/2005 5:21:29 PM EDT
[#14]
i too am looking for a grip with less angle ... if take a "proper" grip, i'm firing with my middle finger; however, the funny part is i much prefer the grip angle of a glock over any other pistol -- go figure hinking.gif
Link Posted: 10/1/2005 5:23:44 PM EDT
[#15]
Not one mention for the SPR grip?  I like them and the G43 (G-47 style from TDI with a hinged storage door).    I have fairly big hands and with A2 grips the trigger rests at the knuckle.
Link Posted: 10/1/2005 5:28:04 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:
All AR grips have the same grip angle other than the pachmeyer (sp?)

Once you uncramp your hand the grip angle is determined in large part to the bolt screw angle.  Noone deviates much from the propper angle.  If you are still uncomfortable with the grip after installing a MIAD I guarantee you you are you are using an incorrect stance and grip on the weapon.  Same goes for people who cant shoot NTCH with a carbine.

My guess is you are chicken winging your strong arm if your wrist is bothered by the grip angle.  I hate Glocks grip angle and like the 1911 style angle so I like a grip more vertically positioned.  The AR has a near perfect angle.



I'll take your word on it. I'll let you know when I get the new grip, Ditto on the pistols. I HATE the Glock grip with a passion, but the 1911 fits my hand PERFECTLY. With that said I think your hands and mine are about the same size. Which grip did you yourself end up settling with?




How 'bout a 1911 grip on your AR?

www.pearcegrip.com/ar15.htm

Link Posted: 10/1/2005 5:31:02 PM EDT
[#17]
Sierra Precision SPR for a precision rifle(have one on a AR-10T)...but I'm looking at getting a MIAD for the M4 and AR-10A4.
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