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Posted: 8/17/2004 1:11:32 PM EST
I've decided to go ahead and buy a mega lower or 2 and a kit.

I'm trying to decide between J&T's 16" CAR Kit:

http://webcats.net/store/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=J&Product_Code=C1C&Category_Code=K

and a 16" RRA kit from Adco:

http://adcofirearms.com/rockriver/RRAkits.cfm?page=rra

I know I want a 16" pre-ban with telescoping stock, A3. I would prefer to have it chrome-lined, but the only options on those sites are to get the much more expensive m4 kits. I would only be willing to pay about $50-75 extra for the chrome-lining.

Any advice?

Also, what tools do I really need? I have punches, do I need a stock wrench?

Link Posted: 8/17/2004 1:17:21 PM EST
i like adco
Link Posted: 8/17/2004 1:25:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/17/2004 1:28:37 PM EST by M4arc]

Originally Posted By Opesus:
I've decided to go ahead and buy a mega lower or 2 and a kit.

I'm trying to decide between J&T's 16" CAR Kit:

webcats.net/store/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=J&Product_Code=C1C&Category_Code=K

and a 16" RRA kit from Adco:

adcofirearms.com/rockriver/RRAkits.cfm?page=rra

I know I want a 16" pre-ban with telescoping stock, A3. I would prefer to have it chrome-lined, but the only options on those sites are to get the much more expensive m4 kits. I would only be willing to pay about $50-75 extra for the chrome-lining.

Any advice?

Also, what tools do I really need? I have punches, do I need a stock wrench?




Made links hot for you. I would go with the ADCO kit in this case because every RRA part I've bought has been perfect.
Link Posted: 8/17/2004 2:50:08 PM EST
Simply write J&T and tell Jesse which barrel you want. He can quote a price for whatever you want.
Link Posted: 8/17/2004 3:01:48 PM EST
I just finished my MEGA M-4 Project and I used J&T. I always get what I want from them. The price are about the best you will find and they will help you as much as they can. My DPMS A2 20" was also from J&T works perfect, it loves ammo and I love to feed her.
Link Posted: 8/17/2004 5:36:30 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/17/2004 6:00:14 PM EST by Timanator]
I like J&T stuff, I'm sure people already know that.

reason is simple.


* Their parts fit extremely well.

* Higher quality than a few of the other kit dealers(Not including ADCO which uses great RRA stuff)

*Great support.

*And they have lots of experience in parts and manufacturing of AR15 rifles and 1911 pistols.

You can goto J&T/DSC's industries forum to see some of the stuff I put together with their parts.(They are pretty good about answering questions anouth things not out of their control) Which is here:

www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=2&f=40

Link Posted: 8/17/2004 5:41:12 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/17/2004 10:14:21 PM EST
My 20" A3 is a J&T, and it was a very sweet build with superior finish and fit. I'll be buying two (maybe three if I can afford it) more within the next month or so.

I recommend them enthusiastically.
Link Posted: 8/18/2004 1:12:02 AM EST
J&T has a lightweight chrome lined 16" that looks pretty cool, I may get one.
Link Posted: 8/18/2004 1:13:39 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 1:33:31 PM EST
Can anyone tell me if the kits come with the parts for the lower receiver? I am guessing not by the price but want a confirmation before I place an order. TIA.
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 1:53:46 PM EST
I went with Adco...
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 3:07:09 PM EST
The parts include everything EXCEPT the lower receiver. So yes, everything you would need to put in and on the lower is/are included.
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 8:16:23 PM EST
*sigh*

GET BOTH!!!1
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 8:43:44 PM EST
Does Adco have an M4 kit?

Steve
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 9:46:52 PM EST
Ack! I was all set to get an Adco, as I will not be firing an excessive amount of rounds through my rifle, but then somebody mentioned the magical word "reliability".

Is it true that chrome lined will yield a more reliable rifle?
Link Posted: 8/22/2004 4:37:14 AM EST
It is easier for the rifle to extract a casing with a chrome lined barrel and barrel life is increased.
Link Posted: 8/22/2004 6:22:31 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/23/2004 5:31:29 AM EST by Opesus]
Ok and I know I need to make decisions for myself, but I need more advice. =)

I'm unsure of whether to get HBAR or pencil-thin. The only reason I would get HBAR, is if the handguards are different for pencil, or if there is a difficulty in finding gas blocks/front sights for the pencil-thin.
Link Posted: 8/25/2004 9:38:59 AM EST
I'm considering ordering from J&T but from sonme reason, they never reply to my emails.
I want one of there EM-4 uppers and I want to know if they are 4150 or 4140 steel?
Link Posted: 8/25/2004 10:17:49 AM EST
Handguards are the same regardless of whether it is a HBAR, M4 or pencil barrel
Link Posted: 8/25/2004 9:38:23 PM EST
Yeah, they dont' reply to my e-mails either.

At this point I've decided to go with a JT 16" car kit with flat-top, and m4 stock. I will buy a YHM folding buis, or else an A.R.M.S., I haven't quite decided if the extra clearance fo the arms is worth the money. I also like how it has 2 ranges, 0-250 and 500.

The other decision is whether to get the HBAR, which will fit a wider variety of front sight options.
Link Posted: 8/26/2004 5:30:20 PM EST
I ordered a LPK from J&T Moday afternoon and got it today--three days, not bad. I've done a quick look at the parts and some test fitting in a lower and everything seems to be good stuff. Can give you a full report on Sept 14!
Link Posted: 8/26/2004 9:52:26 PM EST
ADCO!!!

Look here:
www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=109&t=166019

Then order here:
www.adcofirearms.com



'nuff said!
Link Posted: 8/26/2004 10:24:13 PM EST
To you guys who have ordered from J&T....are they 223 or 5.56 barrels? 4140 or 4150 steel?
I want an EM-4 uppers from these dudes. I have ordered lower parts and deliver pretty fast. After numerous emial attempts and differnent months....they never answer my questions....I hope a forum member could he me.
Link Posted: 8/27/2004 6:17:50 AM EST
I really want to go with Adco, as I have heard such great things from them, but I've decided I want chrome-lined, and they can't do it in a kit.
Link Posted: 8/27/2004 4:39:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/27/2004 4:40:41 PM EST by Slash]
double tap



Link Posted: 8/27/2004 4:40:21 PM EST
Talk to Steve at ADCO, I'm sure he'll get you set up.

Why waste your time/effort and give your hard-earned $$$ to people who don't even care enough about your business to answer your emails?



Link Posted: 8/27/2004 10:46:53 PM EST

parts kit in basic form is in stock. sorry, chrome is not an option.
Steve



:( I guess not even Steve could do it.

But sadly, I'm willing to sacrifice customer care for chrome.
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