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Posted: 10/7/2004 7:55:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/7/2004 8:38:47 PM EST by Hank_Rearden1]
So who needs speed loaders? Am I the only one who does this... I haven't seen this presented in the ammo or mag forums, so if it has, sorry to waste anyone's time...

After a few years of using M193 exclusively I started wondering why the boxes have the preferation near the top of the box...


At first glance, opening the box here really doesn't speed up the removal of the cartrigages...


Well, I happened to have some stripper clips near an open box and made a connection...could opening the box near the top at the preferation allow me to simply slide a stripper on the cartriges while they were still neatly together in the box? Why of course!!


Not only that, sliding two clips is just as easy...



And the two loaded clips are also very easy to remove from the box...



So, am I just slow to catch on or does everyone else know this trick?
This is very fast... from sealed box to loaded mag... it takes less than 20 seconds to load.



Link Posted: 10/7/2004 8:12:54 PM EST
Good info.
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 8:14:51 PM EST
great idea, I usually just put the wife too work loading stripper clips while we watch TV
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 8:18:07 PM EST
I also use Federal 5.56 exclusively... and this just blew me away. I can't wait to try it this weekend





- BG
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 8:19:31 PM EST
thanks for putting 2 and 2 together!
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 8:26:13 PM EST
That is a good idea.
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 8:26:37 PM EST
I'll stay tuned for part II where you say "You know those little brackets in the camera called 'focus points'? You will not believe what I found out about them!!"

Just kidding man.
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 8:35:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By SNorman:
I'll stay tuned for part II where you say "You know those little brackets in the camera called 'focus points'? You will not believe what I found out about them!!"

Just kidding man.



LOL !! Well, after my 3rd Jack Danny on ice, the pics looked well focused to me!!

Link Posted: 10/7/2004 8:58:53 PM EST
Hey, using the strippers on the ammo in the box like that may be general knowledge, but I've never heard of it in the many years that I've been playing with the AR-15.

Thanks for the info.

I'll try to put it to good use in the future.

Link Posted: 10/7/2004 9:01:09 PM EST
Sonofabitch, when you promise a STRIPPER, give us a STRIPPER, not a stripper clip!

Link Posted: 10/7/2004 9:10:56 PM EST
I didn't know this trick. I might switch from Q3131A to XM193!
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 9:23:31 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 9:36:49 PM EST
I bet those pictures weren't approved by kerry. how dare you take 20 rounds and easily put them into a stripper clip, how evil of you, i mean, a whole 20 rounds.

Yeah bro, that's most likely why the top rips off. God Bless the non-flash suppressed sporting rifle shooting the 193, what a fireball it gives off. But tell you what, I've hit steel targets out to 300 metres with that ammo!
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 4:50:48 AM EST
You only get a 6 for this dinner pic. No dinosaur, no napkin, no stapler....
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 4:55:53 AM EST
This had not occurred to me, Dude.



You must be an energy camel.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 4:56:36 AM EST
I can't ever get the box to open right on the perforations. It's always a pain in the ass.

I just bought a LULA and gave up on the stripper clips.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 5:17:52 AM EST
Wow...very nice find sir!
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 5:20:10 AM EST
[Mr. Burns] Excellent! [/Mr. Burns]
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 5:45:40 AM EST
That's slicker than an eel in a bowl of mazola!
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 5:57:37 AM EST
Brilliant!

Link Posted: 10/8/2004 5:58:05 AM EST
rock on!
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 6:03:10 AM EST

OMG how obvious. I feel like an idiot now.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 6:06:43 AM EST

Originally Posted By BeetleBailey:
OMG how obvious. I feel like an idiot now.



+1

Me-------->
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 6:11:56 AM EST

Originally Posted By LHD:
You only get a 6 for this dinner pic. No dinosaur, no napkin, no stapler....



When the hell did a dinosaur become a prerequisite?! Damnit, I can't keep up with these ever changing dinner pic standards!


Oh, yeah, brilliant idea man. Makes me feel like an ass for spending a couple hours loading stripper clips.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 6:15:42 AM EST
Damnit! I learned something today.

I'm going back to bed.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 6:36:47 AM EST
I do this with wolf, I take the ammo out of the box while still on the white plastic holders and do the same. It is a bit harder to do on the plastic holders but that is how I do it also. Thanks...
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 7:31:49 AM EST
tagged for later when the photos come back
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 7:40:46 AM EST
[homer]d'oh![/homer]


i can't believe i didn't think of that!
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 5:35:17 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/9/2004 5:36:11 AM EST by Hank_Rearden1]

Originally Posted By LHD:
You only get a 6 for this dinner pic. No dinosaur, no napkin, no stapler....



Just for you LHD... here is the dinosaur... I'll work on the stapler and napkin holder.


Link Posted: 10/9/2004 5:42:01 AM EST
Well S.OB, what do you think about that...... DAMN, Thanks.....
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 5:59:29 AM EST
Bullets, a stripper, and a camera. Coulda been a great thread. HAHA!

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Glad you posted this, Hank.

Yep, I've know this.

Link Posted: 10/9/2004 6:03:34 AM EST
ONe word: Lula
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 6:28:21 AM EST

Originally Posted By wildearp:
ONe word: Lula



Eight words: How could the LULA be faster than this?
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 6:32:25 AM EST

Originally Posted By Bradd_D:

Originally Posted By wildearp:
ONe word: Lula



Eight words: How could the LULA be faster than this?


Rhetorical question.
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 6:39:01 AM EST
Doesn't work with the white box stuff does it?

CRC
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 7:04:43 AM EST

Originally Posted By CRC:
Doesn't work with the white box stuff does it?

CRC



Never tried the whitebox stuff... but my guess is that the spacing in between the cartriges would be too wide to permit 10 cartriges to fit on a stripper.
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 7:49:59 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/9/2004 7:50:55 AM EST by LarryLove]
Great observation! I'm a Q3131A user and the rounds alternate directions in the box, so I couldn't even do this if I wanted to. :(
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 5:18:46 PM EST
How were soldiers in Vietnam issued M193... did the ammo come in the boxes we get today... or was it already on stripper, or pre-loaded in mags?
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 5:22:30 PM EST

Originally Posted By Bradd_D:

Originally Posted By wildearp:
ONe word: Lula



Eight words: How could the LULA be faster than this?



If the stripper clips work perfectly every time, they are faster in the end. However.

1) You have to first load the ammo on the stripper clip, and then into the mag
2) The stripper clips rarely seem to work properly for me. They're always binding, and rounds are falling off, and all sorts of other issues. The LULA works perfectly every time.


Personally I'd rather just have all my ammo in mags rather than have to load off of stipper clips when I need it.
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 7:03:55 PM EST
Two people are faster than 1.

One person steadies the empty mag in one hand, and steadies the stripper (WOOHOO!!) in the other hand - gloves recommended.
The second person uses the side of a magazine to push the bullets off the stripper into the empty mag.
Bend the stripper tab over so the cartridges slide off eaiser.

YMMV

Link Posted: 10/9/2004 7:57:50 PM EST
I too wondered why the preforated line on the box. I always just thought it was so you could grab them out easier. Thanks for the info, all I can say is WOW!
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 8:07:45 PM EST
Awesome. I wonder if Federal designed it like that? hoot
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 8:36:48 PM EST
Thats awesome. Now what do you do with them when they are on the stripper clips?
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 8:48:38 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/9/2004 8:55:27 PM EST by WIgunnut]
Thats amazinghinking.gif...it also turns out to be the same way i put a new pair of underwear on,.. rip the top of the packaging off and jump right on in.hargers
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Link Posted: 10/9/2004 9:45:14 PM EST




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Link Posted: 10/9/2004 10:08:05 PM EST
Why didnt I think of that.headbang.gif
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 11:19:21 PM EST

Originally Posted By Backstop:
Two people are faster than 1.

One person steadies the empty mag in one hand, and steadies the stripper (WOOHOO!!) in the other hand - gloves recommended.
The second person uses the side of a magazine to push the bullets off the stripper into the empty mag.
Bend the stripper tab over so the cartridges slide off eaiser.

YMMV




The edge of a table works nicely.
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 11:44:52 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/9/2004 11:47:03 PM EST by threefiftynone]
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