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Posted: 8/8/2005 5:55:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/8/2005 5:57:47 PM EDT by AROKIE]
what is the major diff betweent he civi version vs the military version and which is the best choice for my bushmaster 16" m4? thanks guys for any info. also shoot me some pics of you s.i.r. get ups. thanks

by the way I already have an knights system on it but want a change.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:02:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AROKIE:
what is the major diff betweent he civi version vs the military version and which is the best choice for my bushmaster 16" m4? thanks guys for any info. also shoot me some pics of you s.i.r. get ups. thanks



Assuming you're talking about the original ARMS 45M vs 45C, the main difference is that to install the M model you have to remove the delta ring. The C model fits with the delta ring in place. Here's pics of my 45M:





On the C model, there is an opening and clearance for the delta ring. I don't think there is any real advantage to the M model - I bought mine because I got it at a really good price and would have bought a C type if one had been available instead. The M version does "look" better though.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:05:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/8/2005 6:09:40 PM EDT by AROKIE]
wow that does look good. is that rear sight the #40 standard?

will a arms #58m mod work with a bushmaster 16 inch?
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:15:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AROKIE:
wow that does look good. is that rear sight the #40 standard?

will a arms #58m mod work with a bushmaster 16 inch?

Yes.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 7:04:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By M4-TUNA:

Originally Posted By AROKIE:
wow that does look good. is that rear sight the #40 standard?

will a arms #58m mod work with a bushmaster 16 inch?

Yes.



would it look good with a 16 inch, also is it very hard to install that model? sorry fro all the questions, jsut wnat to make the right choice
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 7:07:11 PM EDT
The 58MOD will work with the 16" barrel. I had one on my 14.5" barrel and it looked pretty nice. If I can find a picture I will email it to you.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 7:29:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By spooky11:
The 58MOD will work with the 16" barrel. I had one on my 14.5" barrel and it looked pretty nice. If I can find a picture I will email it to you.



Well, if you do find it, can you email it to me, too?
Link Posted: 8/9/2005 4:45:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/9/2005 4:46:01 AM EDT by VTDefender]

Originally Posted By AROKIE:

Originally Posted By M4-TUNA:

Originally Posted By AROKIE:
wow that does look good. is that rear sight the #40 standard?

will a arms #58m mod work with a bushmaster 16 inch?

Yes.



would it look good with a 16 inch, also is it very hard to install that model? sorry fro all the questions, jsut wnat to make the right choice



The 58MOD requires the removal of the delta ring and the forward handguard cap so it's slightly more time consuming to prep the upper for the S.I.R. ....Installation is 5 minutes and change like all of the S.I.R.s

Here's a photo of a #58M-MOD on my 14.5" stag upper with PRI flip up front sight.



And here's another one on my 14.5" bushmaster upper with a fixed FSB:



Hope that helps

It's my favorite of the available S.I.R. systems.
Link Posted: 8/9/2005 5:15:03 AM EDT
BTW......removing the forward handguard cap even on FF handguards that don't require it is good because it allows greater airflow. I remove them from all of my AR's. If it's un-necessary....ditch it ;)
Link Posted: 8/9/2005 11:25:54 AM EDT

Originally Posted By VTDefender:

Originally Posted By AROKIE:

Originally Posted By M4-TUNA:

Originally Posted By AROKIE:
wow that does look good. is that rear sight the #40 standard?

will a arms #58m mod work with a bushmaster 16 inch?

Yes.



would it look good with a 16 inch, also is it very hard to install that model? sorry fro all the questions, jsut wnat to make the right choice



The 58MOD requires the removal of the delta ring and the forward handguard cap so it's slightly more time consuming to prep the upper for the S.I.R. ....Installation is 5 minutes and change like all of the S.I.R.s

Here's a photo of a #58M-MOD on my 14.5" stag upper with PRI flip up front sight.

freesites.pshift.net/~vtdefender/58mod1.jpg

And here's another one on my 14.5" bushmaster upper with a fixed FSB:

freesites.pshift.net/~vtdefender/58mod.jpg

Hope that helps

It's my favorite of the available S.I.R. systems.


VT that is almost exactly what mine looked like so thanks fro the post.
Link Posted: 8/9/2005 12:12:04 PM EDT
thanks for all the info guys, I was thinking about getting the the 58mod. for my bushy. I would just feel bette with a fre floater. Now what kind of scope would go well with the 58mod and a 16' 1/9 bush?
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