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Link Posted: 8/26/2018 10:25:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By smaddox:
With all the sbr and pistol builds in consideration, I would like the omnibus short barrel defense round shoot off.  
I am talking all the TSX, gold dot, hornady sbr, mk262, etc put to the test in bare gel and through light to medium barrier.
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I'd pitch in for some testing here, either cash/paypal, send you a short upper, send you ammo, pitch in for gel, you get the picture.  You do a good breakdown, short and to the point, and I like the videos and want to see more short barreled stuff.

I know typical pistol barrels for 5.56 are 7-1/2", but could we go shorter to simulate some range?  Anyone make a 4-1/2 or 5" 5.56 barreled upper?
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 10:49:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lightstriker:

Box ordered and en route.
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Thank you for supporting this project.
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 10:52:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By John_Lenin:

I'd pitch in for some testing here, either cash/paypal, send you a short upper, send you ammo, pitch in for gel, you get the picture.  You do a good breakdown, short and to the point, and I like the videos and want to see more short barreled stuff.

I know typical pistol barrels for 5.56 are 7-1/2", but could we go shorter to simulate some range?  Anyone make a 4-1/2 or 5" 5.56 barreled upper?
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If you're willing to provide the 7.5" upper, I'll do the testing. Maybe even do a poll for a reduced charge for a couple. I suspect that most ammo will do well enough to surprise most people. Email me if you're interested.
Link Posted: 8/30/2018 12:48:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/30/2018 12:50:39 AM EDT by Ohio]
What was the last pinned (in GD) test done? I can't find it for my son to watch.

ETA: Never mind.
Link Posted: 9/7/2018 8:36:13 AM EDT
@bluefalcon have you tested 70gr barnes tsx 5.56? If not if I sent you a box would it be possible to get a video on the ammo?

Also saw 78gr barnes tsx on midway (unloaded projectiles) might grab a box whenever they're in stock and see what I can come up with for a load. Unless they're meant for something other than 5.56. Maybe barnes entry into the 224valkyrie game?
Link Posted: 9/7/2018 8:52:41 AM EDT
I have not tested it. Email me.
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 4:05:40 PM EDT
Please vote on next set of testing HERE.
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 6:43:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SurtrsFire:
@bluefalcon have you tested 70gr barnes tsx 5.56? If not if I sent you a box would it be possible to get a video on the ammo?

Also saw 78gr barnes tsx on midway (unloaded projectiles) might grab a box whenever they're in stock and see what I can come up with for a load. Unless they're meant for something other than 5.56. Maybe barnes entry into the 224valkyrie game?
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Pretty sure the 78gr TSX is meant specifically for 224 Valkyrie. Don't think you can load to mag length in a 223.
Link Posted: 9/10/2018 12:00:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/10/2018 12:01:23 AM EDT by vicious_cb]
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Originally Posted By bluefalcon:
Please vote on next set of testing HERE.
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Thanks for doing the tests. Hornady 0/2 failure. Makes you appreciate companies like Sierra alot more since their loads are stupidly accurate and perform terminally as well. Even their 75gr Interlock SBR load sucks smoking through 2 blocks off gel at any distance past point blank. Looks like only the 75gr Hornady is still king even with its so so accuracy.
Link Posted: 10/2/2018 11:53:45 AM EDT
So have you tested this manufactures ammo:
5.56mm 62 Grain Green Tip FMJ M855 IMI Ammo Made by Israel Military Industries
I'm interested in the performance of the 62 grain green tip
They all so manufacture a 5.56mm 55 Grain FMJ M193 IMI.
If you all ready test 62 grain, Can you link me to the video?

Thanks for your time!

PITA45
Link Posted: 10/2/2018 12:59:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By pita45:
So have you tested this manufactures ammo:
5.56mm 62 Grain Green Tip FMJ M855 IMI Ammo Made by Israel Military Industries
I'm interested in the performance of the 62 grain green tip
They all so manufacture a 5.56mm 55 Grain FMJ M193 IMI.
If you all ready test 62 grain, Can you link me to the video?

Thanks for your time!

PITA45
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Lake City M855 SBR Ballistic Gel Test
Link Posted: 10/4/2018 4:55:17 PM EDT
Any chance of testing the 62gr Speer Gold Dot in .223?
Link Posted: 10/4/2018 7:51:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Glock9mm1990:
Any chance of testing the 62gr Speer Gold Dot in .223?
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As DocGKR has stated is performs exactly like 64gr Gold Dot which has been tested extensively.
Link Posted: 10/11/2018 10:54:41 PM EDT
Any update on the latest test? Your poll thread in GD's been gone for awhile and was wondering what the next test was or will be (in case I missed it).
Link Posted: 10/12/2018 12:34:33 AM EDT
.45acp Ranger T series from a 5" 1911 or other 5" service pistol and 4" carry pistol, vs all comers from 5" service and 4" carry pistols.

From .380 through 10mm
Link Posted: 10/12/2018 10:06:50 AM EDT
62gr Controlled Chaos will be up today.
Link Posted: 10/12/2018 10:38:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By bluefalcon:
62gr Controlled Chaos will be up today.
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Cool.

I'm betting it will act similarly to mk318 if it's anything like it's 115g big brother.
Link Posted: 10/12/2018 12:41:01 PM EDT
Tacked in GD for today and added to beginning of this thread. Yes, it did quite well and I wish I had thought of that comparison when I shot the video. The penetration of the base wasn't quite what we've seen from Mk 318 but overall terminal performance is generally similar.
Link Posted: 10/12/2018 4:37:41 PM EDT
Ah, was hoping it'd be the Hornady 73gr Critical Defense. Good stuff regardless though, and thank you again for all these tests!
Link Posted: 10/12/2018 4:44:58 PM EDT
Soon.
Link Posted: 10/13/2018 2:49:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By vicious_cb:

As DocGKR has stated is performs exactly like 64gr Gold Dot which has been tested extensively.
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Still would like to see the 62gr Gold Dot  tested anyways.
Link Posted: 10/15/2018 2:08:36 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By bluefalcon:
Soon.
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Any chance of seeing the Federal 75gr TMJ? in .223 not .224 Valk
Link Posted: 10/15/2018 7:28:26 PM EDT
whens that barnes 50gr or whatever it was video coming out?
Link Posted: 10/15/2018 8:44:09 PM EDT
Soon.
Link Posted: 10/19/2018 2:25:28 PM EDT
Hornady 62 grain FMJ might be interesting. I have seen another video which showed it expanded like a SP with 13+” of penetration.
Link Posted: 11/17/2018 12:35:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/17/2018 1:53:19 PM EDT by Little_Scrapper]
I would like to see Hornady 55 gr V-Max as that is what I keep in my AR15 & LCAAP M118.

As for the 55 gr V-Max I know what you say about varmint loads but I live in a neighborhood with houses in all but one direction. In that direction there is a school across the street. My thinking is that should I graze of even miss I don't want rounds exiting my house at full power. However, that is just what I have and I am always considering my SD ammo choices.
Link Posted: 11/17/2018 12:59:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/17/2018 2:59:18 PM EDT by swampvol]
125g sst 300blk spec.

Seen some test with a 10.5, but curious how it does with an 8".

ETA: Fiocchi specifically.
Link Posted: 11/17/2018 1:58:45 PM EDT
9mm, top three carry options in heavy for caliber, 147gr projectiles.

.40 S&W top three, 180gr.

.45 acp, top three , 230gr

All from the same length barrel, preferably 5", but 4.25" work. So many carry the 1911 5", so that would be good to do if you have 5" 9mm and .40SW as well. Then do the 4.25" or 4.0", even go to 3" if you have them all. I've looked all over and cannot find a gel test with all three with the same ammo, from the same barrel length on the same day. All you'll find is cement, wood, or pork, and while the pork ribs are good to see, you can't compare wound channels like you can in gel because they aren't clear and clean.

Ammo would be Gold Dot, Ranger T, HST, bare, and with 4 layers of denim.
Link Posted: 11/17/2018 2:05:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By pavlovwolf:
9mm, top three carry options in heavy for caliber, 147gr projectiles.

.40 S&W top three, 180gr.

.45 acp, top three , 230gr

All from the same length barrel, preferably 5", but 4.25" work. So many carry the 1911 5", so that would be good to do if you have 5" 9mm and .40SW as well. Then do the 4.25" or 4.0", even go to 3" if you have them all. I've looked all over and cannot find a gel test with all three with the same ammo, from the same barrel length on the same day. All you'll find is cement, wood, or pork, and while the pork ribs are good to see, you can't compare wound channels like you can in gel because they aren't clear and clean.

Ammo would be Gold Dot, Ranger T, HST, bare, and with 4 layers of denim.
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Everyone says wound channels in handgun rounds is irrelevant. Right?
Link Posted: 11/21/2018 9:55:27 PM EDT
Saw your Hornady 123 test for the 6.5 Grendel. Awesome. If you could, test the Speer gold dot 120 grain for the Grendel. Seems allot of folks have issues with the 123 gr pills. I moved to 120 grain see a big improvement.
Link Posted: 11/22/2018 12:19:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/22/2018 12:19:32 AM EDT by Lightstriker]
People do know he was banned (), right?
Link Posted: 11/22/2018 12:45:21 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lightstriker:
People do know he was banned (), right?
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His test videos are still being posted by the site, and i'm sure he lurks.
Link Posted: 11/22/2018 2:27:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By swampvol:
His test videos are still being posted by the site, and i'm sure he lurks.
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Didn't realize those were actually still his videos, thought it was going to be a quell the flames claim of continued working relationship, should've probably clicked on one by now.

Guess there's still hope for the Hornady 73gr .223 Critical Defense test afterall.

Link Posted: 11/23/2018 4:48:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lightstriker:
People do know he was banned (), right?
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Why was he banned?
Link Posted: 11/24/2018 7:02:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Glock9mm1990:
Why was he banned?
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PM sent
Link Posted: 12/1/2018 11:05:52 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Glock9mm1990:

Why was he banned?
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???
Link Posted: 12/26/2018 12:58:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By orion251:
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Originally Posted By Glock9mm1990:

Why was he banned?
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Damn
Link Posted: 1/16/2019 7:05:52 PM EDT
OK ... who was banned? The guy that was making the videos, doing the tests?
Link Posted: 1/19/2019 6:11:53 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Little_Scrapper:
I would like to see Hornady 55 gr V-Max as that is what I keep in my AR15 & LCAAP M118.

As for the 55 gr V-Max I know what you say about varmint loads but I live in a neighborhood with houses in all but one direction. In that direction there is a school across the street. My thinking is that should I graze of even miss I don't want rounds exiting my house at full power. However, that is just what I have and I am always considering my SD ammo choices.
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You-tube, they're there.
Link Posted: 1/19/2019 9:32:00 AM EDT
9mm, top three carry options in heavy for caliber, 147gr projectiles.

.40 S&W top three, 180gr.

.45 acp, top three , 230gr

All from the same length barrel, preferably 5", but 4.25" work. So many carry the 1911 5", so that would be good to do if you have 5" 9mm and .40SW as well. Then do the 4.25" or 4.0", even go to 3" if you have them all. I've looked all over and cannot find a gel test with all three with the same ammo, from the same barrel length on the same day. All you'll find is cement, wood, or pork, and while the pork ribs are good to see, you can't compare wound channels like you can in gel because they aren't clear and clean.

Ammo would be Gold Dot, Ranger T, HST, bare, and with 4 layers of denim.
Link Posted: 2/2/2019 12:26:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/2/2019 12:27:34 AM EDT by Lightstriker]
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Originally Posted By XSentinel:
OK ... who was banned? The guy that was making the videos, doing the tests?
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Yes.
Link Posted: 2/3/2019 6:30:33 PM EDT
I thought he got himself unbanned?
Link Posted: 2/13/2019 2:21:40 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Buffman_LT1:
I thought he got himself unbanned?
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Still says account locked as of this post.
Link Posted: 2/13/2019 2:28:39 AM EDT
Yeah, still locked.

I’m wondering if we’ll ever see the 6.5 Grendel Wolf steel case ammo test.  I sent him the ammo, and I think he did the test, but it never got posted up.
Link Posted: 2/15/2019 10:06:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/17/2019 12:17:46 AM EDT by Variable556]
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Originally Posted By Variable556:
Yeah, still locked.

I’m wondering if we’ll ever see the 6.5 Grendel Wolf steel case ammo test.  I sent him the ammo, and I think he did the test, but it never got posted up.
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There’s a vid up now.

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7n6 for the Bourgeois? 6.5mm Grendel Wolf 100gr FMJ
Link Posted: 2/22/2019 5:45:06 PM EDT
I sent him a box German MEN 56gr M193 that was delivered yesterday. I sent him it because I was curious to see how it would perform compared to other M193 loads.
Link Posted: 3/19/2019 1:53:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/21/2019 11:17:12 AM EDT by Stylz]
Link Posted: 4/13/2019 11:23:47 PM EDT
Geco 5.56 55gr FMJ.
Link Posted: 5/19/2019 9:57:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Stylz:
We have a large queue of tests lined up. If you sent Andrew some ammo, it's likely in the list. If you don't already, subscribe to our YouTube channel for all the latest tests.

If anyone needs to get in touch with Andrew you can reach him [email protected]
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Is this over now?
Link Posted: 5/19/2019 10:09:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/19/2019 10:10:00 PM EDT by swampvol]
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Originally Posted By Happy2shoot:

Is this over now?
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Good question.

I know the guy doing these tests was banned from this site - however, he did continue doing a few of these tests after his banishment though.
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