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Posted: 12/14/2003 5:21:36 PM EDT
Anybody know about this new generation of night sight? The House Armed Services Committee is adding funding for it for FY2004.

"The increase includes funding for the AN/PVS-17A mini night sight, which will
enhance rifle targeting capabilities..."
Link Posted: 12/14/2003 6:03:22 PM EDT
Its the PVS-4 replacement.  Pretty good piece of gear I only had 4 of them for Iraq and wish I had one for every crew served I owned.
Link Posted: 12/15/2003 2:10:33 AM EDT
What do you want to know?  It comes in a low and high power version, its water proofed, etc.  You can buy one for about $5000-7000 on the open market when you can find one.  Has a lit red reticle, blah, blah, blah... I cant afford one. [:(]
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 8:43:14 PM EDT
So, it's got a 4th generation tube? Anyone know what the resolution is?
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 8:59:06 PM EDT
There is no such thing as a 4th generation tube its a 64lp resolution.
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 7:29:04 AM EDT
Well, it's just that I've googled all over the damn 'net looking, and can't find any information about it. So far, you're the only one that knows anything about it. Who makes it? I went to ITT's site and they don't even acknowledge that it exists. Any other clues, please?

TIA
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 7:54:26 AM EDT
Here's a link to a PDF on Litton's web site:
[url]http://www.littoneos.com/PDF_Data_Sheets/pvs17 2.25x.pdf[/url]
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 9:15:05 AM EDT
[img]http://photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=2705[/img]
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 1:00:43 PM EDT
Actually the PVS-17 has been around for a while-97 in fact.
While SOCOM and the Marine Corps has purchased them in quantity, the Big Army has been reluctant.

For more, see "The AN/PVS-17B MNVS", Jan 03 S.W.A.T. Magazine.
Link Posted: 12/21/2003 2:58:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/21/2003 3:00:51 AM EDT by Zircon]
Thanks, gentlemen, that helps a lot. So, it's pretty much a dedicated weapons sight, unlike the PVS-14 that can be head mounted as well. Specs show it to be heavy (almost 2 lbs.) and it looks bulky. Other than the 2.5X magnification, it doesn't appear to offer anything over the PVS-14, coupled with say, an Aimpoint. Am I missing something?
Link Posted: 12/21/2003 6:36:00 PM EDT
I have seen the magnification as 2.5 and 2.25 in different product info sheets.  I have also seen the higher magnification version as 4.5 and 5X on seperate sheets.  The unit is waterproofed to 20m.  The PVS 14D is not.  The closer comparison would be the PVS 18 which is a submersible NV monocular.  The reticle on the 17 is not like the Aimpoint.  The Aimpoint is in front of the PVS 14.  This means the Aimpoint is giving you a green dot reticle instaed of a red reticle overlayed on the green screen.  Also if you use the 3X adaptor between the 14 and the M2 you loose a lot of light.  It also magnifies the Aimpoints dot.  Also the weight and bulk is REDUCED compared to the 14 its mount the Aimpoint and its mount and the 3X adaptor.

So what you end up with is a dedicated weapon sight that has:

Less weight
Less bulk
Better reticle
More waterproofed
Better light transmission
Simpler to set up and use

The only way it even compares to the 14 is the 64lp in the intensifier tube.  Thats not a fair comparison either because the 3X adaptor of the 14 screws on OVER the lens of the 14.  That reduces light transmision.  Then there is the Aimpoint blocking light with its body and the limited light thats get through its lenses and coatings.  This results in a FAR superior picture through the 17 over the M2/14 combo.

Also the 17 comes in its own little Starlite case for safekeeping during the day too.[;)]

These can be purchased for around $8000-10000 if you can find one on the civilian market last time I looked (which was a year ago) for new or $5000-7000 used.  The PVS 18 for comarison is about $5000 new and the PVS14D is in the mid to low $3000 range.  The number one comparison would be the Raptor 4X which is larger, heavier and has nearly the same specs.
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 6:09:43 AM EDT
Thank you. Great comparison - just what I was looking for!!
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