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Posted: 9/22/2005 8:44:28 PM EDT
Have any of you guys used this ammo.  How did you like it.  Would you order more of it.
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 10:25:40 PM EDT
I ordered 1k  of it last friday but Aim hasnt shipped it yet. I called today and they were just receiving it according to the lady i talked to.
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 4:24:41 AM EDT
I'll be interested to hear how this ammo performs. I wonder why they're importing military ammo here; as Troy has pointed out on many occasions, all ammo "surplus" sold consists of QC rejects of some minor (or maybe major) kind.

Wonder what's up with the ADCOM stuff. I'll probably start a ammo review poll topic with it if it becomes more pervasive.
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 6:39:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/23/2005 8:43:41 AM EDT by brillo]
Some further info on the ADCOM M855, courtesy of AIM Surplus and Century:

Manufactured in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) for Saudi armed forces.  Headstamps include years 2003, 2004.  Originally exported from UAE to Century International Arms, Inc. AIM Surplus has 3,000,000 rounds on hand, $170/1000 + shipping.  AIM not sure why this ammo is surplus.

Century, the original importer, received 2,000,000 rounds late August, now out-of-stock, doesn't expect additional shipments.
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 6:41:54 AM EDT
Some more information about ADCOM from Defense Systems International
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 6:54:06 AM EDT
Just waiting on an order I placed myself for 1,000. So we'll see how good it is.

Also I think this is the key to why we are seeing it:


ADCOMMFG was established to meet the needs of the UAE Armed Forces and other UAE government organisations. To run the plant at full production capacity and achieve optimum results, however, it needed to exploit more business opportunities and develop new markets within and outside UAE.


Link Posted: 9/23/2005 7:23:02 AM EDT
I have 200 rounds given to me by AIM to review.  It is nicely packaged in 20 round boxes.  Inspection of two boxes shows all rounds looking like they should.  No green tips, however.  I will be shooting it up this weekend, and will report.
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 6:01:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Collin:
I have 200 rounds given to me by AIM to review.  It is nicely packaged in 20 round boxes.  Inspection of two boxes shows all rounds looking like they should.  No green tips, however.  I will be shooting it up this weekend, and will report.



Any news?
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 6:41:55 PM EDT
I ordered from AIM last Monday, should have been here on friday, was going to try it out this weekend. I had them hold my order til it came in, they said it would ship on wendsday, I get the feeling that they are swamped with orders for this stuff, I hope they did not oversell it, I'll be pissed if they did. At least send my other ammo out.
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 10:11:59 AM EDT
My order arrived today. The ammo looks like new production its shiny like Q3131a minus the annealing. I fired 30 rounds and they all went bang and hit what i was aiming at. I plan on firing some more this weekend. Looks like i may end up buying another case or 2.
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 11:12:43 AM EDT
I know this stuff is labeled "surplus" but if someone wanted to keep a few mags of M855 along with their XM193 loaded up for a economic/social breakdown scenario, would this be reliable or are we talking strickly plinking.
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 11:35:30 AM EDT
Verdict not in yet if good for Tiekwando scenario..... actually, ANY ammo is better than no ammo for TEOTWAWKI situation.

I hope to get to shoot some this Sat.

my 1K order arrived today $180 total including shipping! not bad for M855 type ammo.

new looking brass, polished, no annealing coloration left, sealed at primer, not sure about bullet, date stamp 00, nice crimp on canneleure, not green tip colored, very pointy bullets like ss 109 should be, comes in 20 rnd box with plasic dividers.

I can't wait to try it!
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 12:01:20 PM EDT
Any chance there's a chrony handy that you could put it through?

This stuff is starting to sound like it might be a possible replacement for the now disappeared IMI M855 stocks.

Inquiring minds want to know.

-Frank
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 1:48:28 PM EDT
Just ordered 500rds.

I'll post some results next week when i get a chance to shoot it.
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 2:24:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Triumph955i:
Just ordered 500rds.




What did they charge you for shipping?
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 2:55:14 PM EDT
Received 500 rounds today, 04 headstamp, $9.00 shipping to Maryland.
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 3:31:07 PM EDT
I've got some, good stuff it seems, IS sealed ammo as I pulled a couple of bullets, done a heck of a lot better then the 193 is. Sealed primers. All went bang, I'm going to spend some $$$$ on this ammo. 2K $330 from AIM.
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 5:01:41 PM EDT
I'll try to chrony some for you guys tomorrow if the conditions are right.
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 7:06:45 PM EDT
Received mine today. Sounds like everyone elses. Mine is '04 production.
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 9:49:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/27/2005 10:13:05 PM EDT by Triumph955i]

Originally Posted By GeorgeW2004:

Originally Posted By Triumph955i:
Just ordered 500rds.




What did they charge you for shipping?


$8 to Southern Illinois

Whats really great is that AIM ....FINALLY!....fixed thier site to where it will calculate shipping.
Best thing the could have done to their website.
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 1:44:22 PM EDT
I ordered 500 rnds today.  They said they would ship it out on Thursday.  If it gets here by Saturday I will do a range test.  Going up to my father in law's farm to turkey hunt.  They charged me $10.00 for shipping.
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 1:50:37 PM EDT
Got 2 K in, Ran some more, [mine 99 dated] like it, works well, ordered 2 K more.
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 10:32:02 PM EDT
I wonder how these bullets perform... someone send a batch to the guys/gals at ammo-oracle!
Link Posted: 9/29/2005 11:08:09 AM EDT
it says it's ss109.  I would assume it's at m855 specs b/c it's supposedly a mil contractor.  Anyone chrony this stuff?
Link Posted: 9/29/2005 5:13:02 PM EDT
i had a customer chrono it

Average Velocity is 3126 out of 10 shots.
Hi 3213
Lo 3084

Link Posted: 9/29/2005 5:47:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/29/2005 5:53:21 PM EDT by fxntime]

Originally Posted By flannagan_bryan:
i had a customer chrono it

Average Velocity is 3126 out of 10 shots.
Hi 3213
Lo 3084




Thanks.

Also, talked with AIM, they would like to carry this but do not know how much they will be able to get in and when. He said it was selling quite well and asked me how I liked it. Told him well enough to order more. He said some people were leery because of the name and area from whence it came. It DID originally go to Century as the shipping stencelling on my box clearly states that Century was the original customer. I checked up on the manufacturer before I ordered, not a fly by night company by any means.
Link Posted: 9/29/2005 7:23:24 PM EDT
what length brl?
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 8:44:01 AM EDT
picked up some this week, will chrony it in a 14.5 inch bushy saturday morning, and try to post by saturday evening.

I thought Collin said he was going to test some, but I imagine when he got it home to put it away it was sort of like the last scene from raiders of the lost ark.

RMT
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 9:14:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/30/2005 9:16:07 AM EDT by ColdFusionGuy]
Has anyone pulled one apart yet to see if there's neck sealant?

I believe it was mentioned previously on this thread that there is sealant around the primer.

Keeping my fingers crossed,

-Frank
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 12:18:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ColdFusionGuy:
Has anyone pulled one apart yet to see if there's neck sealant?

I believe it was mentioned previously on this thread that there is sealant around the primer.

Keeping my fingers crossed,

-Frank



Yes, I pulled a few bullets and they are sealed. Happy with mine, ran another 100 with no problem. The Flash hole is larger then I expect to see but I doubt that is a problem. No signs of primer problems after shooting it.
Link Posted: 10/7/2005 6:36:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/10/2005 4:47:46 PM EDT by fxntime]
Wondered what the heck happened to this post. Deleted it, wrong thread.
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 4:04:48 PM EDT
Got my 1K today.  99 date stamp.

Anyone any besides 04 and 99?

BTW: I thought it was kinda funny that it didn't have the NATO mark on it.

-Frank
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 5:35:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ColdFusionGuy:
Has anyone pulled one apart yet to see if there's neck sealant?

I believe it was mentioned previously on this thread that there is sealant around the primer.

Keeping my fingers crossed,

-Frank



I bought some Adcom at Rainier guns in lakewood today (seeing you're a WA native too) and I got one bullet out of 40 that wasn't spotless, shiny, and beautiful like every other one. I decided to pull that one, and found a decent amount of sealant on the bullet. About as much as British RORG (dated '94) which happens to be a lot more then the Lake City stuff: for comparison, I have a sample of '01 M855 from ammo-man, and lot 103 of XM193.

This stuff is golden, i thank God or Allah (as it's made in the UAE) for making another plentiful ammunition source. It's not overpriced either!!! well, when ordering online that is!
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 9:51:16 PM EDT
Is this ammo something we should expect to see on a regular basis or is it likely a one time only thing, the result of a cancelled military contract or something?
Link Posted: 10/14/2005 5:29:17 AM EDT
That's a real good question. The factory is a new facility and maybe they are looking for some export business but I would doubt they are having any problems arranging local sales at the moment!

This is awfully new ammo to have been surplussed. Usually there is some kind of problem with surplus ammo as Troy has stated but so far noone has found any with this stuff. It seems to work in all kinds of guns-14" and up, accuracy and velocity seem to be in the right neighborhood. The thing with a factory is that it needs to run....you have people to pay and facilities to keep up and certain fixed costs. You would think they would want to run and sell ammo all the time especially if this is a private venture. Making money is kind of the point.....

If this is excess production then I think we will see more. Century has an "in", they imported the 5 million rounds now in the country. If there is more in the future I would think they would bring it in as long as it is selling -and it seems to be selling.
Link Posted: 10/14/2005 9:53:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
Is this ammo something we should expect to see on a regular basis or is it likely a one time only thing, the result of a cancelled military contract or something?




I hope it becomes a regular.  M855 specs and I got 2k for 350 out the door, it's hard to beat that...
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