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Posted: 4/12/2017 6:01:47 PM EDT
Is anyone producing these A1 rear sight parts and tear drop forward assist agian! DPMS dosent make them anymore ! Help
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Link Posted: 4/13/2017 6:41:25 PM EDT
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Fulton Armory has new production versions of them.
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Fulton Armory has new production versions of them.
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Thanks.... there goes $356 tonight. I was all "OH YEAH!.. and then, oh that too, and that...and that.........they have that in stock! Better not put that off. Next thing you know....
Link Posted: 4/13/2017 10:27:21 PM EDT
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Cool that they have them, sucks that they cost so much.
Link Posted: 4/14/2017 12:12:06 AM EDT
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I am sure that company has them
Marked up the normal amount from Retail. Like all their goods.
40$ isn't bad for a part not any normal store will ever carry.  Ask your local gander mountain for this. They don't got it.


Do you know the difference in cheap and frugal?
Link Posted: 4/14/2017 4:20:18 AM EDT
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I got an A1 rear sight kit from Amherst on GunBroker recently
Link Posted: 4/14/2017 4:20:54 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/14/2017 9:21:41 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/14/2017 11:57:39 AM EDT
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Not sure about current manufacture. Olympic Arms shows a model PP20 Plinker on their site which looks like an A1 except of course for the handguards. Not sure if they sell parts.  If you are looking for a proper A1 aperture flip see Numerich.  I purchased 3 a couple of years back. They are the correct short & long range aperture heights (unlike the DPMS rubbish). If you call Numerich and listen to their phone recording it will say basically "we don't want to talk to you....here is a discount shipping code if your order on-line instead of bothering us"

Ken
Link Posted: 4/14/2017 1:23:04 PM EDT
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Not sure about current manufacture. Olympic Arms shows a model PP20 Plinker on their site which looks like an A1 except of course for the handguards. Not sure if they sell parts.  If you are looking for a proper A1 aperture flip see Numerich.  I purchased 3 a couple of years back. They are the correct short & long range aperture heights (unlike the DPMS rubbish). If you call Numerich and listen to their phone recording it will say basically "we don't want to talk to you....here is a discount shipping code if your order on-line instead of bothering us"

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Olympic Arms went out of business in January, they apparently didn't take down their website.
Link Posted: 4/14/2017 2:19:29 PM EDT
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Used sights can often have wore out pin holes.. This is a bad thing , especially if you only have one sight..

that roll pin can fall out . Youll wind up holding it in place with ttrip wire.

Some parts are junk. its best to start new, unless its a 2nd or 3rd.
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Link Posted: 4/14/2017 3:02:56 PM EDT
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Nice people at Amherst. All three I received were NOS from the 70s IIRC.

https://www.amherst-depot.com/Gunparts.AR15.htm
Link Posted: 4/14/2017 3:22:47 PM EDT
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Might be worth it to run a batch this summer when school gets out.  If I can figure out this darn Solidworks and how to go from cad to cam...
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Used sights can often have wore out pin holes.. This is a bad thing , especially if you only have one sight..

that roll pin can fall out . Youll wind up holding it in place with ttrip wire.

Some parts are junk. its best to start new, unless its a 2nd or 3rd.
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Used sights can often have wore out pin holes.. This is a bad thing , especially if you only have one sight..

that roll pin can fall out . Youll wind up holding it in place with ttrip wire.

Some parts are junk. its best to start new, unless its a 2nd or 3rd.
I will say this, of all of the A1 rear sight kits I have gotten from Indiana Army Surplus, every one of them has been superb. I have had ZERO issues. I would not recommend stuff that did not work or was not in good condition.
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/66166/IMG-20170408-113658-186951.JPGI got an A1 rear sight kit from Amherst on GunBroker recently
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Jay at Amherst is a good dude. Been buying and trading with him for years at the local Gun Shows here in Florida.

All of his stuff is as represented. He knows what he has and tells you what it is.

Cost is surprisingly reasonable too!

He's a straight shooting Marine and he LOVES Marine collectibles!

The man knows his stuff too! Don't try bullshitting him!
Link Posted: 4/14/2017 5:10:50 PM EDT
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The Amherst A1 rear sight sets are ok to use but you do have to be cautious when purchasing them.  Out of 11 sets purchased three sets had poorly machined windage drums that looked terrible and I ended up replacing them with nos Colt ones.  And one other very important fact about the Amherst sets is that the ones they have been selling for a while now are brand new recent production sets and not original nos USGI sets from 1974 as they are representing them.  They are using newly machined parts and packaging them to look original as copies of the very first USGI sets they were selling in the beginning.  I guess they figure that the USGI type packaging and copy paper inserts help sell them easier for a higher price.  I believe the windage drums are actually the same manufacture as the most recent Sarco sets which were half of the price when available.  On the bright side they are nice people and they are selling a much needed product in the market, just wish they were not misrepresenting them as USGI from 1974.

You do also have to be careful with a lot of the used sets being sold on GunBroker, eBay, and elsewhere as a lot of the parts are wore out or damaged and not worth the price you pay for them.
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The Amherst A1 rear sight sets are ok to use but you do have to be cautious when purchasing them.  Out of 11 sets purchased three sets had poorly machined windage drums that looked terrible and I ended up replacing them with nos Colt ones.  And one other very important fact about the Amherst sets is that the ones they have been selling for a while now are brand new recent production sets and not original nos USGI sets from 1974 as they are representing them.  They are using newly machined parts and packaging them to look original as copies of the very first USGI sets they were selling in the beginning.  I guess they figure that the USGI type packaging and copy paper inserts help sell them easier for a higher price.  I believe the windage drums are actually the same manufacture as the most recent Sarco sets which were half of the price when available.  On the bright side they are nice people and they are selling a much needed product in the market, just wish they were not misrepresenting them as USGI from 1974.

You do also have to be careful with a lot of the used sets being sold on GunBroker, eBay, and elsewhere as a lot of the parts are wore out or damaged and not worth the price you pay for them.
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Thanks for the info. I guess things can change.

I haven't been willing to drop $9.00 to get in the door to listen to the tasers zapping and the emu jerky salesman yapping so it's been a good several years since I've seen him at a show.

I guess the REAL stuff is drying up.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 11:07:37 PM EDT
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Thanks I'll check these guys!  I kinda took a three year brake on the retro stuff do to money and job! Just discovered that the company that made the A1 site adjustment wheel for DPMS , Fulton and the other stopped making them. Am in a panic!
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 11:15:02 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/16/2017 12:32:56 AM EDT
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You can usually find new and used sets with original Colt and USGI parts on eBay and GunBroker from a couple different venders.  Just be extra careful when purchasing the sets with the "1974 marked USGI packaging" that are actually recent manufacture and were newly put together by Amherst and sometimes are being resold by others as well.  Just ask to make sure the windage drums are machined right before you order an Amherst set from someone.  Bad pictures usually mean bad product.  I personally only use new sets and stay away from the used sets because the condition is hit and miss.  The Sarco and Windham sets were ok and priced right while they lasted.  I haven't used a Fulton set can anyone weigh in on those?
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 1:50:20 AM EDT
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Those have been listed as discontinued for at least a year. they never remove stuff from their catalog.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:08:50 AM EDT
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I actually got a email back from DPMS that I sent about 4 months ago. According to the email the A1 parts are NOT discontinued, but they only do one small batch of them a year. They didn't say when the next batch would be or where they would be available but I guess its something.

You can usually find various brand ones on ebay for around $50, or if push comes to shove buy a DD A1.5 rear sight and pull the parts you need.
https://danieldefense.com/components-parts/a1-5-fixed-rear-sight.html
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