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Posted: 9/29/2004 2:02:54 PM EDT
Are there any non-fmj true "5.56" loads available commercially?

Or anything like a "+P" .223 non-fmj load, maybe?
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 2:50:06 PM EDT
The Black Hills Gold stuff is great. You can get their "remanufactured" stuff for not that much too. I personally think its hotter than 5.56 and can be shot in SAAMI chambers.
It looks like this:

They are loaded with a Nosler ballistic tip bullet.

- Nealio
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 2:53:33 PM EDT
Man there are a ton of options.

Winchester White box 45gr varmint rounds.... at wal-mart... very accurate too.

Black Hills in all shapes and sizes.

Wolf JHP.

Federal 50gr HP.

the list goes on and on.......
Link Posted: 9/30/2004 6:26:19 AM EDT
Those (especially the 45-gr Winchester?) are loaded HOTTER than normal .223's...?

Sounds like I need to break down & buy a chrono.
Link Posted: 9/30/2004 6:33:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By New_guy:
Those (especially the 45-gr Winchester?) are loaded HOTTER than normal .223's...?

Sounds like I need to break down & buy a chrono.

Yes. Well.... depends on what you call "normal" and "hot" Typically, that is measuered by case pressure. However, the 45gr Winchester are hot, and run ~3600FPS MV.
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 5:51:42 AM EDT
Basically, that's what I was talking about; case pressure. Any sp or hp ammo loaded to 5.56 specs. (For hunting purposes, which I know is a topic that has been discussed here quite a bit.)

Corbon was the first one to come to mind for me, but theirs is typical .223-category (53 grains @ 3300 fps); nothing very special about it.

Picture pulling the bullet from an XM193 round, and replacing it with a good 55-60 grain softpoint or ballistic tip bullet, keeping the same case, powder charge, and primer; that's what I was wondering if existed commercially.
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 6:00:05 AM EDT
Depends on what you are "hunting"....

Black Hills has a nice selection that is as you describe... minus the sealant on the case neck and primer pocket.

Look at Winchester 64gr power points.... those are very popular with the 5.56 "big game" hunting crowd.
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 11:32:48 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 12:18:12 PM EDT
Standard Black Hills 223 is loaded to 223 SAAMI, not to full 5.56 pressure.
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