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Posted: 1/5/2006 12:36:07 PM EDT
Where could i get a 37mm flare launcher anyone have any good websites I would like to spend under 300.
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 12:45:45 PM EDT
tag!
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 5:24:31 AM EDT
37mm.com

CHECK THEIR LINKS.
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 5:26:57 AM EDT
www.ftfindustries.comtry here
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 5:32:54 AM EDT
Just an FYI, only use flares in it, use of anything else will make it a DD.
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 8:36:03 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 8:57:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Lon_Moer:
37mm.com

mr40mm.com

+1
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 9:10:54 AM EDT
Tag, for more resources.
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 4:59:55 PM EDT
Go to Bushmaster catalog 2005 V.1
page 53, for rifles not carbines
$199.95
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 7:17:52 PM EDT
the day I can get one at a decent price that actually looks like a 203 I'll pick it up. That time hasn't come yet.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 12:26:48 PM EDT
Try firequest. They have them for 16" and 20" standard or heavy barrels. Goto the online catalog link, and select a catagory (37mm flare launchers) $249.99 each. They also sell the flares and smoke generators.

4X4SC
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 6:45:00 PM EDT
yeah butt I dont like how the grenade launcher sticks out so much. It isn't as close to the hand guard as it could be.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 7:09:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Dace:
Just an FYI, only use flares in it, use of anything else will make it a DD.



Even smoke?
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 7:14:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Triumph955i:

Originally Posted By Dace:
Just an FYI, only use flares in it, use of anything else will make it a DD.



Even smoke?



no, there's quite a few things you can shoot through them without it being a a DD.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 7:16:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Snaps:

Originally Posted By Triumph955i:

Originally Posted By Dace:
Just an FYI, only use flares in it, use of anything else will make it a DD.



Even smoke?



no, there's quite a few things you can shoot through them without it being a a DD.



Like what for example?

Smoke: Covered
Flares: Covered

What about CS stuff?
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 8:10:54 PM EDT
Like my fingers the way they are.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 8:49:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Creeper:
Like my fingers the way they are.



How the hell can that happen????!!!
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 5:28:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2006 5:28:25 AM EDT by Dace]

Originally Posted By Triumph955i:

Originally Posted By Dace:
Just an FYI, only use flares in it, use of anything else will make it a DD.



Even smoke?




[ATF Ruling 95-3]

18 U.S.C. section 921(a)(4); DESTRUCTIVE DEVICE 26 U.S.C.
section 5845(f)(2); DESTRUCTIVE DEVICE (Firearm having a bore of
more than one-half inch in diameter)

37/38 mm gas/flare guns possessed with cartridges containing
wood pellets, rubber pellets or balls, or bean bags are classified
as destructive devices for purposes of the Gun Control Act, 18
U.S.C. Chapter 44, and the National Firearms Act, 26 U.S.C. Chapter
53.

ATF Ruling 95-3

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) has examined
various 37/38 mm gas/flare guns in combination with certain types
of ammunition to determine whether these are destructive devices as
defined in the Gun Control Act (GCA), 18 U.S.C. Chapter 44, and the
National Firearms Act (NFA), 26 U.S.C. Chapter 53.

Section 5845(f), Title 26, United States Code, classifies
certain weapons as "destructive devices" which are subject to the
registration and tax provisions of the National Firearms Act (NFA).
Section 5845(f)(2) provides as follows:

(f) Destructive device. --The term "destructive device" means
* * * (2) any type of weapon by whatever name known which will, or
which may be readily converted to, expel a projectile by the action
of an explosive or other propellant, the barrel or barrels of which
have a bore of more than one-half inch in diameter, except a
shotgun or shotgun shell which the Secretary or his delegate finds
is generally recognized as particularly suitable for sporting
purposes . . .'

Section 5845(f)(3) excludes from the term "destructive device"
any device which is neither designed or redesigned for use as a
weapon and any device, although originally designed for use as a
weapon, which is redesigned for use as a signaling, pyrotechnic,
line throwing, safety, or similar device.

The definition of "destructive device" in the GCA (18 U.S.C.
section 921(a)(4)) is identical to that in the NFA.

ATF has previously held that devices designed for expelling
tear gas or pyrotechnic signals are not weapons and are exempt from
the destructive device definition. However, ammunition designed to
be used against individuals is available for these 37/38 mm
devices. This "anti-personnel" ammunition consists of cartridges
containing wood pellets, rubber pellets or balls, and bean bags.

When a gas/flare gun is possessed with "anti-personnel" type
ammunition, it clearly becomes an instrument of offensive or
defensive combat and is capable of use as a weapon. Since these
gas/flare guns have a bore diameter of greater than one-half inch,
fire a projectile by the means of an explosive, and, when possessed
with "anti-personnel" ammunition, are capable of use as weapons,
the combination of the gas/flare gun and "anti-personnel"
ammunition is a destructive device as defined in the GCA and NFA.
As a result, registration as a destructive device is required. Any
person possessing a gas/flare gun with which "anti-personnel"
ammunition will be used must register the making of a destructive
device prior to the acquisition of any "anti-personnel" ammunition.
In addition, the gas/flare guns are classified as firearms as
defined by the GCA when possessed with "anti-personnel" type
ammunition.

Each gas/flare gun possessed with anti-personnel ammunition
will be required to be identified as required by law and
regulations (27 C.F.R. section 178.92 and 179.102), including a
serial number. Any person manufacturing the gas/flare gun and the
"anti-personnel" ammunition must, if selling them in combination,
have the appropriate Federal firearms license as a manufacturer of
destructive devices and must have paid the special (occupational)
tax as a manufacturer of National Firearms Act firearms. Any person
importing the gas/flare gun and the "anti-personnel" ammunition
must, if importing them in combination, have the appropriate
Federal firearms license as an importer of destructive devices and
must have paid the special (occupational) tax as an importer of
National Firearms Act firearms.

Further, the "anti-personnel" ammunition to be used in the
gas/flare launchers is ammunition for destructive devices for
purposes of the GCA. Any person manufacturing the "anti-personnel"
ammunition must have the appropriate Federal firearms license as a
manufacturer of ammunition for destructive devices. Any person
importing the "anti-personnel" ammunition must have the appropriate
Federal firearms license as an importer of ammunition for
destructive devices.

HELD: 37/38 mm gas/flare guns possessed with "anti-personnel"
ammunition, consisting of cartridges containing wood pellets,
rubber pellets or balls, or bean bags, are destructive devices as
that term is used in 18 U.S.C. section 921(a)(4) and 26 U.S.C.
section 5845(f)(2).


Link Posted: 1/11/2006 5:31:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By books:

Originally Posted By Creeper:
Like my fingers the way they are.



How the hell can that happen????!!!



You never saw the pictures of the guy who blew his hand up using a 37mm launcher? He was firing it incorrectly, wrapping his free hand around the barrel, and the cartridge was bad and blew up. Mangled his hand.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 5:38:54 AM EDT



[ATF Ruling 95-3]

18 U.S.C. section 921(a)(4); DESTRUCTIVE DEVICE 26 U.S.C.
section 5845(f)(2); DESTRUCTIVE DEVICE (Firearm having a bore of
more than one-half inch in diameter)

37/38 mm gas/flare guns possessed with cartridges containing
wood pellets, rubber pellets or balls, or bean bags are classified
as destructive devices for purposes of the Gun Control Act, 18
U.S.C. Chapter 44, and the National Firearms Act, 26 U.S.C. Chapter
53.

ATF Ruling 95-3

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) has examined
various 37/38 mm gas/flare guns in combination with certain types
of ammunition to determine whether these are destructive devices as
defined in the Gun Control Act (GCA), 18 U.S.C. Chapter 44, and the
National Firearms Act (NFA), 26 U.S.C. Chapter 53.

Section 5845(f), Title 26, United States Code, classifies
certain weapons as "destructive devices" which are subject to the
registration and tax provisions of the National Firearms Act (NFA).
Section 5845(f)(2) provides as follows:

(f) Destructive device. --The term "destructive device" means
* * * (2) any type of weapon by whatever name known which will, or
which may be readily converted to, expel a projectile by the action
of an explosive or other propellant, the barrel or barrels of which
have a bore of more than one-half inch in diameter, except a
shotgun or shotgun shell which the Secretary or his delegate finds
is generally recognized as particularly suitable for sporting
purposes . . .'

Section 5845(f)(3) excludes from the term "destructive device"
any device which is neither designed or redesigned for use as a
weapon and any device, although originally designed for use as a
weapon, which is redesigned for use as a signaling, pyrotechnic,
line throwing, safety, or similar device.

The definition of "destructive device" in the GCA (18 U.S.C.
section 921(a)(4)) is identical to that in the NFA.

ATF has previously held that devices designed for expelling
tear gas or pyrotechnic signals are not weapons and are exempt from
the destructive device definition. However, ammunition designed to
be used against individuals is available for these 37/38 mm
devices. This "anti-personnel" ammunition consists of cartridges
containing wood pellets, rubber pellets or balls, and bean bags.

When a gas/flare gun is possessed with "anti-personnel" type
ammunition, it clearly becomes an instrument of offensive or
defensive combat and is capable of use as a weapon. Since these
gas/flare guns have a bore diameter of greater than one-half inch,
fire a projectile by the means of an explosive, and, when possessed
with "anti-personnel" ammunition, are capable of use as weapons,
the combination of the gas/flare gun and "anti-personnel"
ammunition is a destructive device as defined in the GCA and NFA.
As a result, registration as a destructive device is required. Any
person possessing a gas/flare gun with which "anti-personnel"
ammunition will be used must register the making of a destructive
device prior to the acquisition of any "anti-personnel" ammunition.
In addition, the gas/flare guns are classified as firearms as
defined by the GCA when possessed with "anti-personnel" type
ammunition.

Each gas/flare gun possessed with anti-personnel ammunition
will be required to be identified as required by law and
regulations (27 C.F.R. section 178.92 and 179.102), including a
serial number. Any person manufacturing the gas/flare gun and the
"anti-personnel" ammunition must, if selling them in combination,
have the appropriate Federal firearms license as a manufacturer of
destructive devices and must have paid the special (occupational)
tax as a manufacturer of National Firearms Act firearms. Any person
importing the gas/flare gun and the "anti-personnel" ammunition
must, if importing them in combination, have the appropriate
Federal firearms license as an importer of destructive devices and
must have paid the special (occupational) tax as an importer of
National Firearms Act firearms.

Further, the "anti-personnel" ammunition to be used in the
gas/flare launchers is ammunition for destructive devices for
purposes of the GCA. Any person manufacturing the "anti-personnel"
ammunition must have the appropriate Federal firearms license as a
manufacturer of ammunition for destructive devices. Any person
importing the "anti-personnel" ammunition must have the appropriate
Federal firearms license as an importer of ammunition for
destructive devices.

HELD: 37/38 mm gas/flare guns possessed with "anti-personnel"
ammunition, consisting of cartridges containing wood pellets,
rubber pellets or balls, or bean bags, are destructive devices as
that term is used in 18 U.S.C. section 921(a)(4) and 26 U.S.C.
section 5845(f)(2).



Librals suck
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 9:36:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Dace:

Originally Posted By books:

Originally Posted By Creeper:
Like my fingers the way they are.



How the hell can that happen????!!!



You never saw the pictures of the guy who blew his hand up using a 37mm launcher? He was firing it incorrectly, wrapping his free hand around the barrel, and the cartridge was bad and blew up. Mangled his hand.


that was also a dude trying ot make it fire homemade birdbombs if iirc
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 11:49:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By jrp454:
Go to Bushmaster catalog 2005 V.1
page 53, for rifles not carbines
$199.95



Not anymore. Bushmaster no longer sells the M203 flare launcher.

Straight from the horses mouth.
Thread I started.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 2:28:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ManiacRat461:

Originally Posted By jrp454:
Go to Bushmaster catalog 2005 V.1
page 53, for rifles not carbines
$199.95
hr


Not anymore. Bushmaster no longer sells the M203 flare launcher.htThread I started.


bummer, I thought about getting one last year
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 4:03:58 PM EDT
try this place, $199.99
http://www.ftfindustries.com/specialls.htm
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 4:08:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2006 7:08:12 PM EDT by Dace]

Originally Posted By Snaps:

Originally Posted By Dace:

Originally Posted By books:

Originally Posted By Creeper:
Like my fingers the way they are.



How the hell can that happen????!!!



You never saw the pictures of the guy who blew his hand up using a 37mm launcher? He was firing it incorrectly, wrapping his free hand around the barrel, and the cartridge was bad and blew up. Mangled his hand.


that was also a dude trying ot make it fire homemade birdbombs if iirc



Now Books knows how it can happen.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 5:06:02 PM EDT
well i suppose now he does
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 5:20:27 PM EDT
tag
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 7:20:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Dace:

Originally Posted By Snaps:

Originally Posted By Dace:

Originally Posted By books:

Originally Posted By Creeper:
Like my fingers the way they are.



How the hell can that happen????!!!



You never saw the pictures of the guy who blew his hand up using a 37mm launcher? He was firing it incorrectly, wrapping his free hand around the barrel, and the cartridge was bad and blew up. Mangled his hand.


that was also a dude trying ot make it fire homemade birdbombs if iirc



Now Books knows how it can happen.



Well, if I ever do get one I think I'll stick to manufactured rounds and flares. I don't think I'd trust myself that much to make them and risk one of my appendages!!!
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:02:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By books:

Well, if I ever do get one I think I'll stick to manufactured rounds and flares. I don't think I'd trust myself that much to make them and risk one of my appendages!!!



seems like it's safe enough to reload them. just don't try to make explosives.
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 7:21:51 AM EDT
Found one on Ebay.

Right Here
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 6:19:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By books:

Originally Posted By Dace:

Originally Posted By Snaps:

Originally Posted By Dace:

Originally Posted By books:

Originally Posted By Creeper:
Like my fingers the way they are.



How the hell can that happen????!!!



You never saw the pictures of the guy who blew his hand up using a 37mm launcher? He was firing it incorrectly, wrapping his free hand around the barrel, and the cartridge was bad and blew up. Mangled his hand.


that was also a dude trying ot make it fire homemade birdbombs if iirc



Now Books knows how it can happen.



Well, if I ever do get one I think I'll stick to manufactured rounds and flares. I don't think I'd trust myself that much to make them and risk one of my appendages!!!



Yeah I don't even trust my self reloading normal bullets.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 6:43:34 PM EDT
Theres one in the EE for $199...................

- Clint
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 6:46:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By jrp454:
try this place, $199.99
http://www.ftfindustries.com/specialls.htm


They no longer sell RPB(no longer in production) flare launchers. The only people that make 37mm's now is Et Cetera, these are the same people that made the launchers that Cobray sold, the Bushmaster and Firequest where the same also. Et Cetera launcher hang way down and look like crap, how ever with some modifying they can look much better. Like this one http://www.peace-through-victory.com/m16a1w203.JPG
The man who lost his hand way making home made bird bombs. He way over loaded it and I think made it wrong. Smokes are ok. If you have any more questions pleas come over to www.37mm.com ! Me and the other member will be willing to answer them all to the best of our ability. Thank you. John

P.S. My name over on 37mm.com is A!rborne_Ranger. Rangers lead the way!
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 7:27:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Snaps:

Originally Posted By books:

Well, if I ever do get one I think I'll stick to manufactured rounds and flares. I don't think I'd trust myself that much to make them and risk one of my appendages!!!



seems like it's safe enough to reload them. just don't try to make explosives.



I take it you never saw the thread where the guy blew half his hand off with a 37mm round. And yes there were pictures of it.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 10:34:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Dace:

Originally Posted By Snaps:

Originally Posted By books:

Well, if I ever do get one I think I'll stick to manufactured rounds and flares. I don't think I'd trust myself that much to make them and risk one of my appendages!!!



seems like it's safe enough to reload them. just don't try to make explosives.



I take it you never saw the thread where the guy blew half his hand off with a 37mm round. And yes there were pictures of it.



The story and PICs of the blown launcher and mangled hand are available here:
www.freewebs.com/grog/safety1.htm

If you want reloading guides for 37mm or 40mm stuff, Grog's is the best (only?) choice. I've got his CDs for my 40mm, but I haven't ventured into reloading for it yet. Not afraid of it, just haven't found the time. Grog's forums are also a great resource for information.
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