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Posted: 9/12/2004 5:43:00 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/12/2004 5:54:01 PM EST by BMM4A3]
Does anyone know if the 30rd 22lr magazines for the Ciener Atchisson style conversions will be made available to the public after the ban for a reasonable price? If so, can you point to whom is selling them. I found one a few months ago for around $400 and was reserved for epople who purchsed a dedicated upper. I already have an upper but I would really love to have a 30 rd mag for the 22. 10 rounds is just no fun.... Any help anyone can give would be greatly appreciated
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 6:36:40 PM EST
$400? Did that include vaseline?

I mean, let's be real here. I've seen these mags advertised for the last 2 years in the $100-$125 range. I would hope Ciener would be selling them new for less than that, but who knows?

I'll be giving them a call tomorrow...
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 6:48:45 PM EST

Originally Posted By Southern_Raider:
$400? Did that include vaseline? hock.gif

I mean, let's be real here. I've seen these mags advertised for the last 2 years in the $100-$125 range. I would hope Ciener would be selling them new for less than that, but who knows?

I'll be giving them a call tomorrow...



yeah, I`m not kidding. It was like $370. Absurd! Someone mentiond in the EE that Ciener will be selling 30 rounders in the nrear future but they did not mention when or how much. If you don`t mind let me know what you find out when you talk with em.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 4:49:45 AM EST
I called this morning and the nice lady told me that they were discussing pricing at that very moment. She said they should have it very soon and that the website would be immediately updated to reflect it.

www.22lrconversions.com
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:14:08 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/16/2004 11:01:35 AM EST by osprey21]
Rumor has it that JAC will be selling them for $59.00ea.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 9:11:47 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/13/2004 9:13:29 AM EST by Southern_Raider]

Originally Posted By osprey21:
Rumor has it that JAC will be selling them for $99.00ea.


Then this boy won't be buying. I could have bought many at that price or just a tad more over the last two years. Now that the ban is gone, that price is just plain ridiculous. I'd easily spend $100 if I could get 3 or maybe two mags, but I won't spend it on one.

The sad thing is, at the right price, he could recoup 10 years of lost sales in the next 60-90 days.

Again, when I called this morning, I apparently interrupted their discussion on what the price should be. Let's hope reason prevails.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 10:26:16 AM EST
IIRC they were $59.00 10-11 years ago.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 11:09:07 AM EST
I paid $59.00 three years ago....
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 11:47:40 AM EST

Originally Posted By Southern_Raider:
$400? Did that include vaseline?





I bought four for $300 last spring.

Sold one on eBay for $165.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 10:36:45 AM EST
Good news:
Just called, new 30 rnd mags at 59.00 Ea. and 3 for 149.00.
New 16 kits are 199.00 W/30 rnd mags.
They still won't accept plastic.
Rick
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 12:11:08 PM EST
Sweet! IIRC, that's the same price they were charging 10 years ago!
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 8:37:07 PM EST

Originally Posted By Turkreef:
Good news:
Just called, new 30 rnd mags at 59.00 Ea. and 3 for 149.00.
New 16 kits are 199.00 W/30 rnd mags.
They still won't accept plastic.
Rick




Yay!
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 5:15:09 AM EST
IMHO... these are a must have for anybody with a M-16 or DIAS but still pretty expensive for a 22 given the cost of a Ruger 10/22 that will shoot all day without a problem...

I had a 22 conversion and I used it a whole lot with the M-16 but now that I don't have the M-16 to run the 22 conversion with I have no plans on getting another... For those that don't know, these conversion kits can be very picky about when they will shoot (too dirty, too clean, wrong ammo type = Jams, Stovepipes, and frustration).

Just a warning to those that may not know better... There are fixes including dedicated 22LR uppers and Kurt at Kurts Kustom used to make tons of them and they seemed to work much better without the 223 chamber adapter (using a barrel with chamber made for 22LR) but this is some serious $$$....

Good Luck.... I wish we could search back to the mid to late 90's and show the old posts!
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 1:53:27 PM EST
I will get a 3-pack of mags for the M16 but will get a 6-pack for my inbound AC556, everything I've ever read is that the .22lr conversion works excellent right out of the box, compared to the M16, as far as jams and reliability. No matter what you have it's a great day once again...so don't wait! Now if they would only take plastic
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 5:10:16 PM EST

Originally Posted By booger-hooker:
... everything I've ever read is that the .22lr conversion works excellent right out of the box, compared to the M16, as far as jams and reliability. ...



Read my post again... then post when you get the conversion... The ONLY ammo I ever got to run with mine was Remington Standard Velocity Target Load... It would empty mag after mag of that ONE load... All others would give me problems...

Still, with an M-16 it is worth the effort to get running! Repost here after you get your kit if I am wrong and yours runs right out of the box for more then 2 30-rd mags...!
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 6:54:06 PM EST
I read my post again...I'm talking about the Mini-14/AC556 conversion that is supposed to work great right out of the box. I was comparing the reputation of the AC556 conversion to the M16 conversion, which you are correct about it's history of reliability out of the box for people, and that's why I want to get more of the AC556 conversion mags than M16. There was an issue of SAR that talked about .22lr machineguns and they had a few paragraphs on the JAC conversions for AC556 and M16, they compared the two and had theories on why the AC556 conversion was more reliable of the two. Sorry if my post was confusing Quarterbore...you're a wealth of knowledge and it's very much appreciated when you share it.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 7:03:45 PM EST

Originally Posted By booger-hooker:
I read my post again...I'm talking about the Mini-14/AC556 conversion that is supposed to work great right out of the box. I was comparing the reputation of the AC556 conversion to the M16 conversion, which you are correct about it's history of reliability out of the box for people, and that's why I want to get more of the AC556 conversion mags than M16. There was an issue of SAR that talked about .22lr machineguns and they had a few paragraphs on the JAC conversions for AC556 and M16, they compared the two and had theories on why the AC556 conversion was more reliable of the two. Sorry if my post was confusing Quarterbore...you're a wealth of knowledge and it's very much appreciated when you share it.



No, I have just been hanging out on these forums too much and tend to retain what I see... Good luck and I will look forward to seeing a review of the Ciener kit in the AC556! I am running a Vector UZI 22 Conversion in my UZI and it runs fine with 20-rd mags but it doesn't like my 28-rd mags... 22 kits are fun when they work but a pain when they don't...
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 7:22:09 PM EST
Sure thing on the AC556 conversion review, a twentytwoZI kit will be next on the list for conversions as I've got a NIB Vector UZI coming. I might not shoot that one though and instead play around with the post-samples we have in the Corporation.
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 6:38:40 AM EST

Originally Posted By Turkreef:
Good news:
Just called, new 30 rnd mags at 59.00 Ea. and 3 for 149.00.
New 16 kits are 199.00 W/30 rnd mags.
They still won't accept plastic.
Rick



Who has them?
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 11:00:20 AM EST

Originally Posted By AZERIC:

Originally Posted By Turkreef:
Good news:
Just called, new 30 rnd mags at 59.00 Ea. and 3 for 149.00.
New 16 kits are 199.00 W/30 rnd mags.
They still won't accept plastic.
Rick



Who has them?


They're not listed yet (if ever) but here ya go.
;
www.22lrconversions.com/
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 11:08:41 AM EST

Does anyone know if the Ceiner mags will work in Bushmaster's .22lr upper reciever? I had heard that they might, but need some hard info. Thanks!

Link Posted: 9/16/2004 2:59:34 PM EST

Originally Posted By Southern_Raider:
I called this morning and the nice lady told me that they were discussing pricing at that very moment. She said they should have it very soon and that the website would be immediately updated to reflect it.

www.22lrconversions.com




They have been selling the 30 rder's to LEOs the past 10 years. What is there to discuss?
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 4:57:43 PM EST

Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
They have been selling the 30 rder's to LEOs the past 10 years. What is there to discuss?


Aparently they were discussing what the new price should be. There were some persistent rumors, supposedly originating at Ciener, that new mags would be $99. While they were selling the 30s to LEO, I believe the price was $75. I can't imagine that was a big seller though.
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