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Posted: 4/15/2006 1:55:48 PM EST
At work we are told to load 28 rounds in our 30 round magazines.

Why?

Thanks.
Link Posted: 4/15/2006 5:29:26 PM EST
Are you Serious?????? you have been here since 04 and never saw one of the many 10 pages threads regarding this topic... it is seriously beat to death..................................................................................
Link Posted: 4/15/2006 6:24:31 PM EST
I tried searching but anyone feel free to help out a no0b?

Pweaseeeeeeeeeeee
Link Posted: 4/15/2006 6:38:40 PM EST
Mags loaded to a full 30 rounds may not seat with the bolt closed, especially if they have been sitting around loaded. I have experienced this myself. Mags loaded with 28 will seat with the bolt forward. I load range mags with 30 rounds and SHTF mags with 28 rounds.

TS
Link Posted: 4/15/2006 6:47:33 PM EST

Originally Posted By TigerStripe:
Mags loaded to a full 30 rounds may not seat with the bolt closed, especially if they have been sitting around loaded. I have experienced this myself. Mags loaded with 28 will seat with the bolt forward. I load range mags with 30 rounds and SHTF mags with 28 rounds.

TS



+1

That is the reason to down-load to 28. It has nothing to do with the springs being over-compressed. If you are doing a tactical re-load and pull out an empty mag or one with only a few rounds in it, you can't seat a mag that is fully loaded to 30, and it sucks to find that out in a fight, or even in a drill.

And by the way, no problem asking, we all need to learn from each other.
Link Posted: 4/15/2006 7:02:53 PM EST
Thanks guys, I still got alot to learn but glad you guys are here to help
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 7:08:02 AM EST
I have shot competitively for years. After the first time or two your mag doesn't get seated after a speed reload you load 28 from then on.
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 1:15:48 PM EST
I'll step in and say it isn't that a 30rnd mag loaded to 30rnds *won't* seat, it's that it's difficult to seat, especially on a speed reload. I load all my mags to 28 because of that.

Brian
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 1:16:27 PM EST
[Last Edit: 4/16/2006 3:24:00 PM EST by taquito971]
double tap, not sure how that happened though...

Brian
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 1:20:02 PM EST
Nice double tap. Anywho...he's right. A 30 rounder will seat with 30 rounds in it. However it is way too difficult and 28 is a MUCH better choice. I load mine with 28. Ranger plates make the problem even worse.
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 1:38:08 PM EST
Same with me, I load 28 rds to make it easy to load on a closed bolt, but my USGI mags could take 30 rds even with Magpul followers and Ranger plates.

On my one and only HK gen 2 mag I load 30 rds and it loads easy on a closed bolt, the magazine body is a little longer than the USGI mags.
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 2:43:29 PM EST
OK, next stupid question. Why not 29? Why 28?

Do the 20 rd mags have the same problem? IE, you load 18 or 19?
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 3:19:39 PM EST

Originally Posted By tucansam:
OK, next stupid question. Why not 29? Why 28?

Do the 20 rd mags have the same problem? IE, you load 18 or 19?



28 is an even number and provides a little more "slack" in the spring. 29 would work and some people load to 29. I load my 20rd mags to 20rds.


TS
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 3:30:57 PM EST
in compitition i load 25+ but not more than 28 works good foe me
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 3:36:27 PM EST
Good advice bears repeating.

We all need reminders on occasion.

Link Posted: 4/16/2006 4:33:44 PM EST
28 here for the reasons explained above
Link Posted: 4/17/2006 4:40:38 AM EST
10rds or 8rds
Link Posted: 4/17/2006 5:19:09 AM EST
As stated above..... 30 for play, 28 for work. Not that i've ever had a problem with a full 30 but who knows.....
Link Posted: 4/17/2006 10:13:23 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/17/2006 10:14:36 AM EST by John_Wayne777]

Originally Posted By tucansam:
At work we are told to load 28 rounds in our 30 round magazines.

Why?

Thanks.



2 reasons:

1. Makes it easier to insert a magazine and have it seat properly. USGI mags with 30 rounds in them can be a bear to seat properly. If you have ever tried doing a speed load in a CQB exercise, you know this. Nothing in the world more sickening than firing a round and feeling your magazine fall from the weapon.

2. Makes them less likely to bust feed lips if dropped on a hard surface.
Link Posted: 4/17/2006 1:39:50 PM EST
[Last Edit: 4/17/2006 1:40:57 PM EST by I-M-A-WMD]

Originally Posted By TigerStripe:

Originally Posted By tucansam:
OK, next stupid question. Why not 29? Why 28?

Do the 20 rd mags have the same problem? IE, you load 18 or 19?



28 is an even number and provides a little more "slack" in the spring. 29 would work and some people load to 29. I load my 20rd mags to 20rds.


TS



When I load to 28, this number allows for a quick visual- a magazine loaded to 30rd capacity has the first round resting on the right hand feed lip. (When viewing the magazine from the rear) With 29 rounds loaded, the first round would rest on the the left hand feed lip.

I load mostly 30 rds, but some of my mags are new with stiff springs which I'll load to 28 just to confuse the hell out of myself while ensuring easier seating in the weapon. If I see a magazine with the top round against the left hand feed lip, I automatically assume it's a partial and not a "full" load of 28 or 30.... While one could always use the weight to further determine if the magazine is near full, as I said, this is just a visual aid.

HTH

Sly

ETA: The controversy of dowloading seems a problem only relative to 30rd mags. USGI 20s are good to go. Unless the spring is installed incorrectly.
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