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Posted: 9/12/2005 7:39:48 PM EDT
Anybody have 20rnders only in their SHTF rig?
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:42:05 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:07:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By VA-gunnut:
Not me... Why carry twenty, when you can carry thirty.



+1

all 30s for me too--more ammo per mag
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:53:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ALPHAGHOST:

Originally Posted By VA-gunnut:
Not me... Why carry twenty, when you can carry thirty.



+1

all 30s for me too--more ammo per mag



+2

20's are great, but they always seem to run dry quicker

WIZZO
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 9:57:34 PM EDT
I use 20's for my butt stock mag pouch. The 30's interfer with charging the gun when in the pouch. I also think 20's are handy if your shooting a precision AR from the bench with a Bi pod. For everything else give me my HK 30 rounders.
Pat
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 4:43:07 AM EDT
Thanks for the input guys.

Are 30's with the new Magpul followers as reliable as the straight 20's?
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 5:09:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/13/2005 5:09:58 AM EDT by PocketG]
I have 26 mags for my AR. Not one 20 rounder. I would like some but it seems I never come across them cheap enough to buy.


BTW, all mags are ready to go. 13 loaded with XM193 LOT#100 and 13 with Win. Q3131 no A stuff (1994). The Q3131 stuff shoots as accurate as the XM193 with total ZERO control. That's a plus.......

I have a SHTF mag bag with 5 of each brand. Total of 300 rounds. The rest of Ammo mags are in a sealed case with desicant.
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 10:19:03 AM EDT
Originally Posted By PocketG:
I have 26 mags for my AR. Not one 20 rounder. I would like some but it seems I never come across them cheap enough to buy.


[\quote]

How cheap do they need to be??? 10 new 20's for $135+shipping. Great people to deal with too.

www.eaglefirearms.net/ar15_magazines.htm

FB
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 10:30:58 AM EDT

Originally Posted By sanddune:
Thanks for the input guys.

Are 30's with the new Magpul followers as reliable as the straight 20's?



I'm running CMMG black teflon mags with Magpul followers and +25% springs. The only failures I've had with either these mags or my rifles running them were a few failures to feed the first round before I did the ruler sliding trick-- make sure you do this with any new mag--but they are very good mags.
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 10:38:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Kreutzberg:
[ I did the ruler sliding trick-- make sure you do this with any new mag--



Link Posted: 9/13/2005 10:48:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/13/2005 10:51:26 AM EDT by photoman]

Originally Posted By pyro6988:

Originally Posted By Kreutzberg:
[ I did the ruler sliding trick-- make sure you do this with any new mag--






+

Forgot my responce. Yes I will be running some 20rd mags after I have deemed the one I have as 100% reliable. Mostly they will be relegated to "hunting" mags incase I gots to do any of that SHTF type dependant.
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 11:29:24 AM EDT
I have a bunch of both 20's and 30's. The 20's are nice if your prone or shooting off a bench. The 30's are good if you don't have to worry about clearance with the longer mags.

Just buy good quality mags, not those crap pro mags etc...
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 5:12:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pyro6988:

Originally Posted By Kreutzberg:
[ I did the ruler sliding trick-- make sure you do this with any new mag--






It was first posted by Troy, I think. Take a wodden ruler and use it to push the follower and cylcle the spring about 20 times. This smoothes out the inside of the mag body and the follower, and gets the spring a little broken in.
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 5:37:27 PM EDT
Right now I have 10 -30rounders and 10 -20 rounders. I found a place in Alabama, that has 20's for 11-12 dollars.
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 7:34:04 PM EDT
20 rounders. What else would you use with an spr to vote from the rooftops with.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 8:24:41 AM EDT
I keep 20 rounders on hand for SHTF purposes. They allow you to discretely carry extra mags in your back bluejeans pocket without anyone being the wiser.

I've had to deal with the aftermath of several hurricanes, and generally speaking, it is wise to not draw attention to yourself by either having large magazines sticking out of your pockets, or by lugging your AR around the neighborhood unnecessarily. You still have to have your rifle easily and rapidly accessible, of course...

Keeping spare ammo constantly on your person in those situations keeps you from having to grab BOTH rifle and spare mags. Twenty round mags make it easy to do.

That's what works for me, YMMV.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 5:08:17 PM EDT
I keep one Colt 20 rounder "just because". I was able to pick it up at a gunshow for $8. Quite a deal I must say! I dig the finish and the alloy follower. Then agian, my NHMTG 30 rounders have never given me any problems (nor have they interfered with bench shooting thus far).
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 9:37:31 PM EDT
I have 2 (Soon to be 5) 30 round mags.

I have 8 20 round USGI mags with the aluminum followers. I just don't trust the 30s as much as my 20's. They have never malfunctioned. Never.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 9:41:18 PM EDT
both, If it was good enough for the guys in vietnam why not me
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 9:51:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By twonami:
both, If it was good enough for the guys in vietnam why not me



I think 20 round mags have thier place but your statement uses faulty logic. Heck the Brown Bess was good enough for the British Redcoats during the Revoluntionary War. So lets all carry Muskets. Things change Vietnam was over almost 40 years ago.

Pat
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 9:53:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/16/2005 9:57:21 PM EDT by twonami]

Originally Posted By Glockfan:

Originally Posted By twonami:
both, If it was good enough for the guys in vietnam why not me



I think 20 round mags have thier place but your statement uses faulty logic. Heck the Brown Bess was good enough for the British Redcoats during the Revoluntionary War. So lets all carry Muskets. Things change Vietnam was over almost 40 years ago.

Pat


The M-16 came out 40 years ago too so why use it.
I figure your not likely to run into a vietnam type firefight
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 12:03:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By twonami:

Originally Posted By Glockfan:

Originally Posted By twonami:
both, If it was good enough for the guys in vietnam why not me



I think 20 round mags have thier place but your statement uses faulty logic. Heck the Brown Bess was good enough for the British Redcoats during the Revoluntionary War. So lets all carry Muskets. Things change Vietnam was over almost 40 years ago.

Pat


The M-16 came out 40 years ago too so why use it.
I figure your not likely to run into a vietnam type firefight




The M4?M16 in use today is not the same gun of 40 years ago its been tweaked and improved considerably. Things change and time marches on.
Pat
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 2:36:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/17/2005 2:38:28 PM EDT by twonami]

Originally Posted By Glockfan:

Originally Posted By twonami:

Originally Posted By Glockfan:

Originally Posted By twonami:
both, If it was good enough for the guys in vietnam why not me



I think 20 round mags have thier place but your statement uses faulty logic. Heck the Brown Bess was good enough for the British Redcoats during the Revoluntionary War. So lets all carry Muskets. Things change Vietnam was over almost 40 years ago.

Pat


The M-16 came out 40 years ago too so why use it.
I figure your not likely to run into a vietnam type firefight




The M4?M16 in use today is not the same gun of 40 years ago its been tweaked and improved considerably. Things change and time marches on.
Pat


M16 and M4 are a lot more related than a Brown Bess and a M16 which are not even on the same page
I don't even understand how a 20 vs a 30 round mag is compared to a brown bess vs a m-16
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 3:47:00 PM EDT
Its an extreem example used to make a point. The point being what has worked in the past is not always whats best in the present or future. Times change better technology emerges. It makes little sence to carry 20 round mags when you can have a 30 round mag. More is better rather you need it or not. Anyway I admit your far from helpless with 20 round mags. And its not really a big issue.
Pat
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 3:57:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Glockfan:
Its an extreem example used to make a point. The point being what has worked in the past is not always whats best in the present or future. Times change better technology emerges. It makes little sence to carry 20 round mags when you can have a 30 round mag. More is better rather you need it or not. Anyway I admit your far from helpless with 20 round mags. And its not really a big issue.
Pat


that's cool I see your point of using what is currently available. You just had me worried for a minute there.
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 4:16:52 PM EDT
i use 20's because my SHTF gun is a portugal G3.



my wife will have an AR with 30's though.
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 9:36:15 AM EDT
I've got footlockers loaded with each. The are all USGI and work. One thing I like about the twenties is that you can wrap your hand around the mag and magwell and carry what appears to be an unloaded gun around the unknowning masses. I still have some twenties here in the sandbox and I keep them loaded with Mk 262 77gr and the 30s have M855 62gr green tip.

CD
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 1:20:31 PM EDT
I have several of each. The 30-rounders are more numerous but I like to keep a twenties around for prone shooting.
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 8:07:26 PM EDT
My 20 and 30 rounders both function the same, flawlessly. I use my 20 rounders for semi-auto range shooting whereas I have my 30 rounders ready for select fire and whatever I would ever need them for if SHTF.
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