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Posted: 10/21/2004 8:00:39 AM EDT
How many are using a collapsible stock with a rifle length upper? I am looking for options to shorten the length of pull on my rifle. The A2 is too long for me. I have looked at the VLTOR A1 Clubfoot as an option, but might just go collapsible now that they are "legal". Any opinions on A1 length of pull stocks for a rifle? Any pics of collapsibles on rifles?
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 10:29:36 AM EDT
My 20" sports an A1 length Cav Arms C1 stock and I couldn't be happier with it.

To go shorter you could get a Sully Stuck (little more than an inch shorter than the A1) - plus the Sully comes with a spacer so you can set it up so its roughly 1/2 shorter than an A1 stock.

But some people do use the telestocks on their 20's there were pics of them in a recent thread in the General AR forum (look for the thread on A1s & A2s).
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 10:44:00 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 10:52:24 AM EDT
How is the quality of the Cavalry Arms stock? Is it as solid as an A2?
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 11:03:56 AM EDT
I don't know if they look right on a 20", but the look damn cool on a dissy build, like this one:

Link Posted: 10/21/2004 12:23:25 PM EDT
LOOK cool? Perhaps not. Functional? Absolutely.

A friend in Baghdad was complaining about the A2 length stock and his inability to properly hold the weapon to his shoulder and get good control of the weapon at the same time. We're working on sending him a Magpul 93A right now... but anyway, here's a pic of my M4gery's lower on my A4.

Link Posted: 10/21/2004 12:51:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sovereign:
How is the quality of the Cavalry Arms stock? Is it as solid as an A2?

It's pretty good. I'd say it's as solid as the A2 - it doesn't have the 'foam' but it doesn't need it as it has a solid plastic bulkhead surrounding the receiver extension. As a bonus there is more storage room in the stock.

The buttplate is the source of most complaints. Its a polymere buttplate with what they call a 'living' hinge. Easier to open than the standard A2 trapdoor - but it's not as sturdy. I replaced mine with a standard A2 buttplate from Fulton Armory and it works great.
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 1:00:50 PM EDT
The other alternative is to go with the A1 stock. I have two of 'em I got from a local store as surplus for $1.50 each. Yes... a dollar and fifty cents each. They came with all the hardware, and one of 'em still had a cleaning kit in it!

Can't beat that deal with a stick!
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 1:05:37 PM EDT
I like them.
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 1:54:29 PM EDT
They work GREAT.

Heck I even have a collapsible on my AR10 [then with 24" bbl now with 20"]

All of our guns are now collapsible stocked...

Link Posted: 10/21/2004 2:20:46 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 2:23:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MP906:
The ban is over...why not?

Best answer so far.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 9:54:28 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 10:16:45 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 4:34:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MP906:
The ban is over...why not?

Great answer!
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 5:35:16 PM EDT

A superior cheek weld then the A1 or A2, adjustable, comfortable rubber buttpad and longer length of pull when fully extended (if you like that).
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 6:04:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MP906:
The ban is over...why not?

Only two reasons I can think of are asthetics and balance. But only the Airsofters and safe queens worry about asthetics.

It's up to the shooter to deterimine if the advantages outweight the negatives.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 9:39:38 PM EDT
Just did an interesting little test. I compared a 16"w/A2 stock aganist a 20"w/collapsed M4 stock. The two are identical overall lenght !!! A 20" with the collapsed stock is the exact same overall lenght as a 16" with the A2 stock.
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 4:41:07 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 6:32:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/23/2004 6:40:03 AM EDT by O_DubhGhaill]
MP906 wrote:

The ban is over...why not?

Not for everyone, unfortunately. The People's Republik of New York is one of about seven states, I believe, that retains its own version of the Clinton gun ban -- how I miss PA.

I'm waiting on a CavArms C1 (as well as an RRA 2-stage) from Ameetech Arms for my Dissy -- I believe it will solve a lot of "seasonal" adjustment problems for me whilst complying with this state's ban.

O'DubhGhaill sends.
Force Recon Association regular member #2259
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 6:43:56 AM EDT
Got one on mine, had a vltor clubfoot A1 on for a while, the collapsible stock just makes the 20" just that much more adaptable/viable for a SHTF rifle IMO
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 6:46:34 AM EDT
I thought the makers of the Sully stock does not reccomend using it on anything longer than a 16 inch upper. Is this because of cycling problems ?
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 7:04:54 PM EDT
Just this morning, front page of the paper, AP photo of a soldier in Iraq using the "bazooka hold" (stock over shoulder) to see through his ACOG.
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 9:49:54 AM EDT
I use an LMT SOPMOD with my 20" upper. I think it balances just fine.

Link Posted: 10/26/2004 10:01:32 AM EDT
It don't look right to me
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 10:20:18 AM EDT

Originally Posted By CAR-AR-M16:
I use an LMT SOPMOD with my 20" upper. I think it balances just fine.


The most pornish so far. Good pics, keep´em coming.

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