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Posted: 6/18/2014 7:07:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/18/2014 7:11:30 PM EDT by forager]
That is a Universal Industires mag on top for comparison, anybody know what the bottom two mag bodies are?

One of them actually split a weld, they are so bad. All are aluminum construction and pretty sure they are USGI

ETA: all I have is the bodies... They had 30rnd DPMS base plates with plastic followers when I got them years ago.



Link Posted: 6/18/2014 7:30:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/18/2014 7:33:52 PM EDT by yankee-V]
The bottom two mags in the top pic just don't look right, maybe it is just the angle. Not sure if there is anyway to tell who made the contractor mag bodies without floorplates, unless they are stamped UI (Colt or Universal), or have a circle 1 on one side (Colt). But I bet you knew that. Does anyone know if there were any non USGI 20 rounders made in the 70's? I have always assumed that started later.
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 2:39:38 AM EDT
You could try looking on the INSIDE of the mag for markings. I have seen some with inside markings before.
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 5:11:06 AM EDT
Latter Simmonds (universal). Welds look worse from the finish over the welds. If the magazine bodies where worn like the top one they wouldn't look that bad. As to welds splitting, it happens.
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 5:34:12 AM EDT
The texture of the finish looks like most Adventure Line 20 round magazines I have encountered.

Wpns Man
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 6:25:13 AM EDT
Sanchez? They are crap.
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 7:48:54 AM EDT
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Sanchez? They are crap.
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In my experience, Adventureline 20’s are just as reliable as Colt or Simmond’s.

Sanchez and Cooper 30 round magazines with black followers were the ones that had problems.

Wpns Man
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 8:03:45 AM EDT
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In my experience, Adventureline 20’s are just as reliable as Colt or Simmond’s.

Sanchez and Cooper 30 round magazines with black followers were the ones that had problems.

Wpns Man
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Originally Posted By Morg308:
Sanchez? They are crap.


In my experience, Adventureline 20’s are just as reliable as Colt or Simmond’s.

Sanchez and Cooper 30 round magazines with black followers were the ones that had problems.

Wpns Man


Thats because the only real difference between the Adventure Lines, Colts, or Simmonds were the floorplates. Basically the same mag with floorplates added by the seller.... With a name like Sanchez would you expect quality?
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 9:14:30 AM EDT
all of my sanchez mags are identical to my colts with the metal follower.
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all of my sanchez mags are identical to my colts with the metal follower.
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All the Sanchez mags I've encountered were 30's with the black nose dive followers that didn't feed worth a shit. After ordering Magpul USGI upgrade kits they were great, but it's only afterall a milspec GI magbody with Magpul Follower, spring, and ranger plate. So I wouldn't call it a Sanchez anymore but a Magpul USGI mag.
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 9:25:15 AM EDT
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Thats because the only real difference between the Adventure Lines, Colts, or Simmonds were the floorplates. Basically the same mag with floorplates added by the seller.... With a name like Sanchez would you expect quality?
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Originally Posted By WpnsMan:
Originally Posted By Morg308:
Sanchez? They are crap.


In my experience, Adventureline 20’s are just as reliable as Colt or Simmond’s.

Sanchez and Cooper 30 round magazines with black followers were the ones that had problems.

Wpns Man


Thats because the only real difference between the Adventure Lines, Colts, or Simmonds were the floorplates. Basically the same mag with floorplates added by the seller.... With a name like Sanchez would you expect quality?


?

Simmonds made mags for Colt, but Adventureline was a separate company, which later became Center Industries.

Sanchez never made 20 round magazines.

ETA: For the record, the .mil was never able to identify any manufacturing problem with Sanchez magazines, only Cooper magazines.
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 9:30:19 AM EDT
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?

Simmonds made mags for Colt, but Adventureline was a separate company, which later became Center Industries.

Sanchez never made 20 round magazines.

ETA: For the record, the .mil was never able to identify any manufacturing problem with Sanchez magazines, only Cooper magazines.
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Originally Posted By HipSh0T:
Originally Posted By WpnsMan:
Originally Posted By Morg308:
Sanchez? They are crap.


In my experience, Adventureline 20’s are just as reliable as Colt or Simmond’s.

Sanchez and Cooper 30 round magazines with black followers were the ones that had problems.

Wpns Man


Thats because the only real difference between the Adventure Lines, Colts, or Simmonds were the floorplates. Basically the same mag with floorplates added by the seller.... With a name like Sanchez would you expect quality?


?

Simmonds made mags for Colt, but Adventureline was a separate company, which later became Center Industries.

Sanchez never made 20 round magazines.

ETA: For the record, the .mil was never able to identify any manufacturing problem with Sanchez magazines, only Cooper magazines.



thats right they are simmonds not sachez LOL. Got confused!
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 9:30:38 AM EDT
Those look like Adventureline mags to me.
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 9:32:53 AM EDT
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?

Simmonds made mags for Colt, but Adventureline was a separate company, which later became Center Industries.

Sanchez never made 20 round magazines.
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Originally Posted By HipSh0T:
Originally Posted By WpnsMan:
Originally Posted By Morg308:
Sanchez? They are crap.


In my experience, Adventureline 20’s are just as reliable as Colt or Simmond’s.

Sanchez and Cooper 30 round magazines with black followers were the ones that had problems.

Wpns Man


Thats because the only real difference between the Adventure Lines, Colts, or Simmonds were the floorplates. Basically the same mag with floorplates added by the seller.... With a name like Sanchez would you expect quality?


?

Simmonds made mags for Colt, but Adventureline was a separate company, which later became Center Industries.

Sanchez never made 20 round magazines.



Hence the words "basically the same mag." They were all of the same design and worked great. I also said I've never seen a 20 round Sanchez because I believe they came out later and I've only had 30's that didn't feed well until upgraded.

ETA: Of course they were used USGI mags and could have possibly been from a pile of ones unfit for service.
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Hence the words "basically the same mag." They were all of the same design and worked great. I also said I've never seen a 20 round Sanchez because I believe they came out later and I've only had 30's that didn't feed well until upgraded.

ETA: Of course they were used USGI mags and could have possibly been from a pile of ones unfit for service.
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Originally Posted By HipSh0T:
Originally Posted By WpnsMan:
Originally Posted By Morg308:
Sanchez? They are crap.


In my experience, Adventureline 20’s are just as reliable as Colt or Simmond’s.

Sanchez and Cooper 30 round magazines with black followers were the ones that had problems.

Wpns Man


Thats because the only real difference between the Adventure Lines, Colts, or Simmonds were the floorplates. Basically the same mag with floorplates added by the seller.... With a name like Sanchez would you expect quality?


?

Simmonds made mags for Colt, but Adventureline was a separate company, which later became Center Industries.

Sanchez never made 20 round magazines.



Hence the words "basically the same mag." They were all of the same design and worked great. I also said I've never seen a 20 round Sanchez because I believe they came out later and I've only had 30's that didn't feed well until upgraded.

ETA: Of course they were used USGI mags and could have possibly been from a pile of ones unfit for service.


Your wording was open to interpretation.

The initial Sanchez comment was not directed at you, just the edit (nothing wrong with Sanchez mag bodies).
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 9:49:05 AM EDT
After rereading it, I can see your point..
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 10:16:05 AM EDT
The .mil stopped using Sanchez mags because they didn't meet specs - IIRC they had a number of chances to make things right. You can do what you want, but I don't buy Sanchez mags.
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 10:48:45 AM EDT
Buy what you feel comfortable with. However, this discussion was in reference to 20 round magazines.

You must have misinterpreted my comments pertaining to Adventureline with your “Sanchez? They are crap” comment.

My attempt to put this back on track by clarifying that Sanchez/Cooper quality issues pertained to 30 round magazine seems to have further derailed the OP’s inquiry.

Sorry OP, as usual RCDD (reading comprehension deficit disorder) rules again…………

Wpns Man
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 11:33:04 AM EDT
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Well, I have had a Sanchez 20 rounder, and it was a crappy mag but apparently the baseplate was changed. I have no problem with adventureline mags - so far. As far as I'm concerned most 20 rounders seem to work pretty well, and several brands were produced by the same company IIRC. Sorry I didn't see your comment, but my reading comprehension is fine. I am a little tired. My apologies to the OP as well.
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 11:33:42 AM EDT
Nearly all defective Sanchez mags remained under DOD control and were destroyed. Very few I'm aware of reached the civi market. I have a 30 rd. Sanchez that runs flawless with a black follower. That was brief incident that has reached epic internet cult status. Never seen a Sanchez 20 either. Feel free to send me all your Sanchez mags.
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 11:36:15 AM EDT
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Nearly all defective Sanchez mags remained under DOD control and were destroyed. Very few I'm aware of reached the civi market. I have a 30 rd. Sanchez that runs flawless with a black follower. That was brief incident that has reached epic internet cult status. Never seen a Sanchez 20 either. Feel free to send me all your Sanchez mags.
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ETA: Now that I look at it again, the top mag looks like it has UI markings.

OOPs. Man, I AM tired. Hal, I got rid of my few Sanchez mags some time back, or I would. Never even tried new followers in them but glad if that works for other people. I can see someone wanting a Sanchez for their collection in the future - wasn't aware the DoD destroyed so many - but that should tell you something about them. They did have a lot of problems with them.
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That's Cooper, not Sanchez.

And again, Sanchez never made 20 round magazines.
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 11:49:34 AM EDT
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That's Cooper, not Sanchez.

And again, Sanchez never made 20 round magazines.
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The .mil stopped using Sanchez mags because they didn't meet specs - IIRC they had a number of chances to make things right. You can do what you want, but I don't buy Sanchez mags.


That's Cooper, not Sanchez.

And again, Sanchez never made 20 round magazines.


I got that, (read my comments above) and I didn't come here to argue about it and am not going to. Did you guys wander in here from GD or something?
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I got that, (read my comments above) and I didn't come here to argue about it and am not going to. Did you guys wander in here from GD or something?
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Originally Posted By Devils_Advocate:
Originally Posted By Morg308:
The .mil stopped using Sanchez mags because they didn't meet specs - IIRC they had a number of chances to make things right. You can do what you want, but I don't buy Sanchez mags.


That's Cooper, not Sanchez.

And again, Sanchez never made 20 round magazines.


I got that, (read my comments above) and I didn't come here to argue about it and am not going to. Did you guys wander in here from GD or something?


Now you're just being a jerk. My posts were relevant and accurate.
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 12:09:03 PM EDT
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No worries, I'm not here to fuel any flames. All is good.

Here's some other thoughts on the Sanchez Cooper mags
http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=17&t=199825

I still have no clue on those top 2 mags with the 3 spot welds.
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 12:12:21 PM EDT
You know, I wasn't trying to be a jerk. You guys jumped my shit about 20 round vs 30 round and I don't respond well to that. All I said was that Sanchez mags are crap. Wow. I'm out.
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No worries, I'm not here to fuel any flames. All is good.

Here's some other thoughts on the Sanchez Cooper mags
http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=17&t=199825

I still have no clue on those top 2 mags with the 3 spot welds.
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They all have five welds, they're just harder to see on the bottom two due to the dark finish.

If they're not marked UI on the front, then they're Adventureline. Those were the only USGI 20 round mag suppliers. These appear to be Adventureline based upon the finish and weld style.

OKAY Industries, which was started by a former Simmonds employee, also made (and continues to make) 20 rounders, but never for the .mil, and those will be marked as such, either on the inside or outside.
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They all have five welds, they're just harder to see on the bottom two due to the dark finish.

If they're not marked UI on the front, then they're Adventureline. Those were the only USGI 20 round mag suppliers. These appear to be Adventureline based upon the finish and weld style.

OKAY Industries, which was started by a former Simmonds employee, also made (and continues to make) 20 rounders, but never for the .mil, and those will be marked as such, either on the inside or outside.
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Originally Posted By Hal143:
No worries, I'm not here to fuel any flames. All is good.

Here's some other thoughts on the Sanchez Cooper mags
http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=17&t=199825

I still have no clue on those top 2 mags with the 3 spot welds.


They all have five welds, they're just harder to see on the bottom two due to the dark finish.

If they're not marked UI on the front, then they're Adventureline. Those were the only USGI 20 round mag suppliers. These appear to be Adventureline based upon the finish and weld style.

OKAY Industries, which was started by a former Simmonds employee, also made (and continues to make) 20 rounders, but never for the .mil, and those will be marked as such, either on the inside or outside.


Roger that. They kinda look coated with dry lube ETA: I meant to say 5 spots, I see now they are just turned around.
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You know, I wasn't trying to be a jerk. You guys jumped my shit about 20 round vs 30 round and I don't respond well to that. All I said was that Sanchez mags are crap. Wow. I'm out.
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All due respect, you started the Sanchez and 20/30 round tangent with your first post. Since Sanchez never made 20 round magazines, and that was the point of this thread, all responses to your post were appropriate.
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All due respect, you started the Sanchez and 20/30 round tangent with your first post. Since Sanchez never made 20 round magazines, and that was the point of this thread, all responses to your post were appropriate.
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Originally Posted By Morg308:
You know, I wasn't trying to be a jerk. You guys jumped my shit about 20 round vs 30 round and I don't respond well to that. All I said was that Sanchez mags are crap. Wow. I'm out.


All due respect, you started the Sanchez and 20/30 round tangent with your first post. Since Sanchez never made 20 round magazines, and that was the point of this thread, all responses to your post were appropriate.


As I stated, I was not aware that Sanchez only made 30's although I knew most of their problems were with 30's. My bad. Again - I had a '20 round Sanchez' that apparently wasn't a Sanchez. It was one of the few 20's that never fed right for me. I didn't mean to be a jerk either, but 'appropriate' responses? The response about reading comprehension was unwarranted IMO. After I responded, you jumped in again. Well, I apologize for mentioning Sanchez mags okay? I don't like seeing these threads derailed anymore than you do. Let's put this to rest okay?
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As I stated, I was not aware that Sanchez only made 30's although I knew most of their problems were with 30's. My bad. Again - I had a '20 round Sanchez' that apparently wasn't a Sanchez. It was one of the few 20's that never fed right for me. I didn't mean to be a jerk either, but 'appropriate' responses? The response about reading comprehension was unwarranted IMO. After I responded, you jumped in again. Well, I apologize for mentioning Sanchez mags okay? I don't like seeing these threads derailed anymore than you do. Let's put this to rest okay?
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Originally Posted By Morg308:
You know, I wasn't trying to be a jerk. You guys jumped my shit about 20 round vs 30 round and I don't respond well to that. All I said was that Sanchez mags are crap. Wow. I'm out.


All due respect, you started the Sanchez and 20/30 round tangent with your first post. Since Sanchez never made 20 round magazines, and that was the point of this thread, all responses to your post were appropriate.


As I stated, I was not aware that Sanchez only made 30's although I knew most of their problems were with 30's. My bad. Again - I had a '20 round Sanchez' that apparently wasn't a Sanchez. It was one of the few 20's that never fed right for me. I didn't mean to be a jerk either, but 'appropriate' responses? The response about reading comprehension was unwarranted IMO. After I responded, you jumped in again. Well, I apologize for mentioning Sanchez mags okay? I don't like seeing these threads derailed anymore than you do. Let's put this to rest okay?


Indeed. We're good, man.
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 2:21:20 PM EDT
Good deal. Good thread - I did not mean to derail it, seriously.
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 2:32:45 PM EDT
My understanding (which may be based on internet lore alone) was that Sanchez mag failures were mainly due to the followers tilting and jamming, and that the problem was with their 30 rounders only. They helped to develop, or the issue with the followers instigated the development of the anti-tilt follower. That may be a simplification of actual events, I don't know.

Good thread - wonder if we need a magazine sticky?
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Roger that. They kinda look coated with dry lube ETA: I meant to say 5 spots, I see now they are just turned around.
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No worries, I'm not here to fuel any flames. All is good.

Here's some other thoughts on the Sanchez Cooper mags
http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=17&t=199825

I still have no clue on those top 2 mags with the 3 spot welds.


They all have five welds, they're just harder to see on the bottom two due to the dark finish.

If they're not marked UI on the front, then they're Adventureline. Those were the only USGI 20 round mag suppliers. These appear to be Adventureline based upon the finish and weld style.

OKAY Industries, which was started by a former Simmonds employee, also made (and continues to make) 20 rounders, but never for the .mil, and those will be marked as such, either on the inside or outside.


Roger that. They kinda look coated with dry lube ETA: I meant to say 5 spots, I see now they are just turned around.


Yeah, I thought you might have been looking at them backward.

One minor correction to my post: some Universal/Simmonds mags are not marked "UI". However, they are still easy to tell apart based on the finish, which is much thinner and lighter than what is found on Adventureline mags; and also the welds, which are generally smaller and more uniform on the Simmonds. These unmarked Simmonds mag bodies were used for Colt contract mags, and thus will have Colt base plates if original.
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My understanding (which may be based on internet lore alone) was that Sanchez mag failures were mainly due to the followers tilting and jamming, and that the problem was with their 30 rounders only. They helped to develop, or the issue with the followers instigated the development of the anti-tilt follower. That may be a simplification of actual events, I don't know.

Good thread - wonder if we need a magazine sticky?
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I wish I could find the Army's report on its magazine failure investigation. In short, Sanchez and Cooper mags were flagged for unusually high failure rates. Several lots of Cooper mags were found to be defective, either from lack of welds (typically three instead of six) or out-of-dimension bodies. Despite that most Cooper mags were in-spec, the Army recalled all Cooper mags from service. However, the Army never found evidence of manufacturing problems with Sanchez mags, and"cured" the problem with green followers.

ETA: I don't know if Sanchez was involved in the green follower development.
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 2:53:55 PM EDT
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I've read a couple sources that reported the bad Sanchez were from an early lot that was supposedly caught pretty quick by the military and rectified.


Here is the poop from Big Hammer:

Some interesting background: There were actually just two sets of U.S. military contract 30 round magazine tooling, both built by Colt. They wandered around from contractor to contractor. These contracts were usually "minority or small business set- asides." Typically what would happen is a small business would get set up with the tooling, and start to crank out a contract. Then, the contract was so lucrative that the business no longer qualified as a "small business", the contract was cancelled, and the tooling got yanked and sent on to the next contractor.

All of the G.I. contract 30s work fine with two exceptions, all Cooper mags and early production Sanchez with the black followers. This is what the May 1987 issue of PM Magazine (The Army's Preventative Maintenance magazine) had to say, "The 30-round magazines made by Cooper Industries don't fit the magazine well, they double feed and they won't feed the last five rounds when fully loaded." To avoid any problems, NEVER buy Cooper mags these were recalled for destruction by the military. The second exception, some early black follower lots of Sanchez (DSI) production are also said to have feeding problems, however, they were never recalled like the Cooper mags were. To avoid problems here buy only Sanchez with the green follower (from the newer production runs) or plan on replacing the black followers with the green ones, (Thanks to Rambo for the PM information and clarification).
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 4:21:34 PM EDT
You learn something every day. Did the OP get his mags sorted out?
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I can personally attest to the Coopers being overdimensioned. Two came my way in a trade. One fits very tightly and will not drop free from several AR-15's I've tried it in, and the other will not fit into the magazine well at all.

Can't speak to the feeding problems with Coopers, never tried to use the one that would fit.
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Funny how I never had issues with black follower mags, save maybe one or two that were older than me, with the orange worn-in aluminum coloring and split spines or dented in/bent feed lips.

I still have some mags like that which were bow-flaged over, that I put Magpul anti-tilt followers in.

In all the high volume break contact drills, live fires, OPFOR details, qual ranges, CQB, and CQM ranges I did, I just didn't have a lot of malfs with black or green followers.
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Lol, I think so?

Looks like they are possibly Adventureline if I am reading this thread correctly,,, how 30rnd mags came into the discussion, I do not know

Thanks for all the info folks!!!
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 5:29:42 PM EDT
It was my fault - sorry.
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Your allowed 1 mistake morg... Don't let it happen again!
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 6:02:57 PM EDT
I'll watch myself boss.
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What we have here is a failure to comunicate.
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What we have here is a failure to comunicate.
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I'll watch myself boss.


What we have here is a failure to comunicate.



Link Posted: 6/19/2014 10:52:51 PM EDT
LOL. Yer gys is de bst! (talking through broken teeth.) Thanks for understanding. I know this is a shock to some of you, but I can be a real dick at times. Sometimes it's warranted, but occasionally I just have a heavy flow day...or something. My apologies.
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I'll watch myself boss.


What we have here is a failure to comunicate.


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Link Posted: 6/20/2014 11:40:47 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Morg308:
LOL. Yer gys is de bst! (talking through broken teeth.) Thanks for understanding. I know this is a shock to some of you, but I can be a real dick at times. Sometimes it's warranted, but occasionally I just have a heavy flow day...or something. My apologies.
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Link Posted: 6/20/2014 12:25:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Morg308:
Sanchez? They are crap.
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I have a bunch of Sanchez mags from back in the day when surplus GI mags were 3 or 4 dollars each at gun shows (early 90's).

Before the Magpul followers went on the market, I put green followers in a bunch of GI mags from different manufacturers (i.e. Colt, Sanchez, Adventure Line, Center Industries, Labelle, OKay, etc.) and to this day I have never had any issues with any of them.

I guess YMMV.
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 12:44:17 PM EDT
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I have a bunch of Sanchez mags from back in the day when surplus GI mags were 3 or 4 dollars each at gun shows (early 90's).

Before the Magpul followers went on the market, I put green followers in a bunch of GI mags from different manufacturers (i.e. Colt, Sanchez, Adventure Line, Center Industries, Labelle, OKay, etc.) and to this day I have never had any issues with any of them.

I guess YMMV.
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Originally Posted By ishoot2live:
Originally Posted By Morg308:
Sanchez? They are crap.


I have a bunch of Sanchez mags from back in the day when surplus GI mags were 3 or 4 dollars each at gun shows (early 90's).

Before the Magpul followers went on the market, I put green followers in a bunch of GI mags from different manufacturers (i.e. Colt, Sanchez, Adventure Line, Center Industries, Labelle, OKay, etc.) and to this day I have never had any issues with any of them.

I guess YMMV.


This is good to hear. You are not the only person to report this in the thread. I guess I have to change my opinion of Sanchez mags. I may still have one kicking around somewhere, and I know I have a handful of green followers...I have a few USGI black follower 30 rndrs I need to rehab at some point.
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 1:37:53 PM EDT
I bought a box of 20 used Sanchez 30's at an older woman's yard sale a few years back for $40.00, they all had black followers and typical wear. Not one mag out of that box would run the entire 28 rounds I loaded flawlessly. I upgraded all the ones I kept with Magpul upgrade kits and never looked back. Sold off the ones with the most finish wear just prior to the 2013 ban for $15.00 each.
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