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Posted: 1/1/2003 4:51:55 PM EDT
Greetings.

I previously posted this over at the General Firearms forum, but thought it might be better fielded here.  Hope you find the Gunny's review as interesting as I did: www.mca-marines.org/Gazette/Dailey.html

O'DubhGhaill
Force Recon Association reg. member #2259
www.forcerecon.com
Link Posted: 1/1/2003 6:07:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/1/2003 6:31:13 PM EDT by JohnM]
Gunny Dailey's comments are interesting to note. I was of the opinion MFR did a 37 mtr BZO. According to his comentary a 25 yrd BZO 1" low is still used today. That's been used for quite awhile now. Some of his facts are a bit off. Colt developed the M4 for the Abu contract, not the M4A1. The rest was some very positive insight and facts. Also I agree with him that a sling is not to be used during patrols. That is unless your lugging a M60 or a 249. Great article and information.

Thanks for the link, good stuff to have saved on the ole hard drive.
Link Posted: 1/1/2003 6:15:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/1/2003 6:16:43 PM EDT by JPC]
NO SKY TO HIGH NO SEA TO DEEP
WE BEAT THE HEAT WE BUSTED ASS
JUST TO MAKE YOUR F***ING CLASS
YO HO B**W ME
RIP SCHOOL CLASS 6-84
RECON RULES
SEMPER FI
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 7:23:07 AM EDT
Originally Posted By JohnM:
Also I agree with him that a sling is not to be used during patrols. That is unless your lugging a M60 or a 249. Great article and information.
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A little off-topic:
I never used a sling with the SAW, when patrolling.  I always used the Bipod as a forward grip.  I found that if you were using a sling, and had to drop to prone, shoulder and fire, it was often difficult.
A little 550 cord was enough, if it needed to be slung, for obstacles.
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 10:45:48 AM EDT
uncooperative link.
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 11:21:22 AM EDT
Everywhere I've seen (ARMY) BS zero is dead on at 25M with the sight on 8/3 + 1 (then the sight is down a click to 8/3 even)

1in low at 25yds should give him a 150-200yd zero while the "Army method" gives a 300M zero.


(I always thought that a 200yd zero [like the one described] would be nice as I basically aim at the belt of all the sillouettes to hit them between 100-250M)

Lets see here (on at 300M for 15% of the targets, or on at 50-250 for 85% of the targets?)
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 5:16:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By O_DubhGhaill:
Greetings.

I previously posted this over at the General Firearms forum, but thought it might be better fielded here.  Hope you find the Gunny's review as interesting as I did: [url]http://www.mca-marines.org/Gazette/Dailey.html[/url]

O'DubhGhaill
Force Recon Association reg. member #2259
[url]http://www.forcerecon.com[/url]
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It seems the Marine Corps Gazette changed their features around a bit as of 01JAN03 and the original link has become inoperable; try this link: [url]http://www.mca-marines.org/Gazette/2002/02Dailey.html[/url]

O'DubhGhaill, out
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 5:42:03 PM EDT
The "Army method" in the TM and FM produces a trajectory over 11" high at 300 meters.....  It's much, much higher than that at mid range.  Don't aim high!

If you want a 300 meter zero you have to zero initially at 30 meters with the sight set at 8/3 (6/3).

-- Chuck
Link Posted: 1/3/2003 8:43:28 AM EDT
Got it, thanks.
Link Posted: 1/3/2003 7:35:26 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Chuck:
The "Army method" in the TM and FM produces a trajectory over 11" high at 300 meters.....  It's much, much higher than that at mid range.  Don't aim high!

If you want a 300 meter zero you have to zero initially at 30 meters with the sight set at 8/3 (6/3).

-- Chuck
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Okay, now I'm confused. I thought that the SIBZ method was to zero at 50. Did I miss something?
Link Posted: 1/3/2003 8:57:16 PM EDT
[url]http://groups.msn.com/TheMarylandAR15ShootersSite/zeroingmethods.msnw[/url]

[url]http://groups.msn.com/TheMarylandAR15ShootersSite/improvedbattlesightzero.msnw[/url]
Link Posted: 1/4/2003 11:49:56 AM EDT
He needen't worry about the problem of not having a rack to store the weapons.  A modification kit is available to allow M4's to fit in standard M16 racks.  Doubt all that night scope stuff will fit ANY rack.
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