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Posted: 5/11/2005 9:30:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/28/2005 3:43:47 PM EDT by TalonArms_R]
Link Posted: 5/11/2005 11:07:22 AM EDT
What barrel profile on the 14.5 and 16? I know there was a thread somewhere about midlength 16" 1/7 chrome lined by sabre.
Link Posted: 5/11/2005 11:38:18 AM EDT
Not to get off-subject, bu will they have a 20" available?

Thinks,

WIZZO
Link Posted: 5/11/2005 11:53:37 AM EDT
Gemtech does not warranty cans for use on an LMT 10.5" upper

I've heard this alot, but I've been unable to get Gemtech to directly confirm. Can anyone provide this direct from Gemtech? It'd be nice if they put it on their website or something.
Link Posted: 5/11/2005 11:54:35 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/11/2005 11:58:37 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/11/2005 12:23:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/11/2005 12:24:30 PM EDT by TalonArms_R]
Link Posted: 5/11/2005 1:07:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TalonArms_R:

Originally Posted By johndoexu:
What barrel profile on the 14.5 and 16? I know there was a thread somewhere about midlength 16" 1/7 chrome lined by sabre.



Carbine length gas system barrels will be M4 profile, light under handguards.
Mid-length gas system are gov. profile.





Sorry I wasn't clear in what I meant. I assume the 14.5 is a carbine gas system, but was really wanting to know if the 16 is a midlength gas system.

Link Posted: 5/11/2005 5:41:19 PM EDT
M4 feed ramps? Chamber 5.56 I assume? What type of cost are we talking about? I may be interested in a 16" with a midlength gas system
Link Posted: 5/11/2005 8:21:44 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/12/2005 7:52:48 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TalonArms_R:


M4 feedramps are being discussed.



Interesting. twl said they absolutely, positively will not use them for the midlength barrels being discussed in the EE. Maybe YOU can get a midlength barrel done with them?
Link Posted: 5/12/2005 9:40:28 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/12/2005 3:11:59 PM EDT
11.5" with a bilock is EXACTLY what I need. Need some prices though!
Link Posted: 5/12/2005 8:40:16 PM EDT
Any chance of an "F" front sight base to go along with the flattop? please! No all of us are hung up on the new fangled optics.

I'd rather see a proper FSB than M4 ramps but both would be nice if done properly
Link Posted: 5/12/2005 8:53:23 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/12/2005 8:53:53 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/13/2005 1:36:35 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/13/2005 6:37:56 AM EDT
Where in Texas are you located?

I might be interested in a 16" and/or a 20".

Will there be HBAR's available?

Link Posted: 5/13/2005 7:36:38 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/13/2005 9:22:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/13/2005 9:41:26 AM EDT by Yojimbo]
What do I want? Hmmm, let's see...

1. 16" barrel
2. Mid-length gas system.
3. 4150 steel, Sabre says they use a better steel so that's good.
4. 1/7" twist
5. 5.56 chamber
6. Chrome lined chamber and bore.
7. M4 barrel extension not machined extended feed ramps! I hope you're able to convince them to do this.
8. Barrel MP tested and proofed.
9. Medium weight profile.
10. Keep the price around $300, lower is always better.
11. The "F" marked FSB shouldn't matter on mid-length but it probably wouldn't hurt.
12. Last but not least these barrels need to be available YESTERDAY!

Link Posted: 5/13/2005 9:37:47 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/13/2005 9:40:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TalonArms_R:

I'll warm up the time machine and see what I can do.



Okay, scrap #12 but see what can be done about all the others...
Link Posted: 5/13/2005 10:16:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Yojimbo:

Originally Posted By TalonArms_R:

I'll warm up the time machine and see what I can do. hr


Okay, scrap #12 but see what can be done about all the others...hr



We could just fax you one ? as for F marked FSB no problem we make them both ways same assembly # just depends what upper we will put it on as to which sight we use.

gm.
Link Posted: 5/13/2005 11:20:10 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/13/2005 2:27:36 PM EDT
What do I want? Hmmm, let's see...

1. 16" barrel
2. Mid-length gas system.
3. 4150 steel, Sabre says they use a better steel so that's good.
4. 1/7" twist
5. 5.56 chamber
6. Chrome lined chamber and bore.
7. M4 barrel extension not machined extended feed ramps! I hope you're able to convince them to do this.
8. Barrel MP tested and proofed.
9. Medium weight profile.
10. Keep the price around $300, lower is always better.
11. The "F" marked FSB shouldn't matter on mid-length but it probably wouldn't hurt.

I'm in for at least one of these if it ever happens. Let me know when and where to send the money sir.
Link Posted: 5/13/2005 5:48:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By tffrost:
What do I want? Hmmm, let's see...

1. 16" barrel
2. Mid-length gas system.
3. 4150 steel, Sabre says they use a better steel so that's good.
4. 1/7" twist
5. 5.56 chamber
6. Chrome lined chamber and bore.
7. M4 barrel extension not machined extended feed ramps! I hope you're able to convince them to do this.
8. Barrel MP tested and proofed.
9. Medium weight profile.
10. Keep the price around $300, lower is always better.
11. The "F" marked FSB shouldn't matter on mid-length but it probably wouldn't hurt.

I'm in for at least one of these if it ever happens. Let me know when and where to send the money sir.




This is what I've been looking for the last 6 months! What would this barrel sell for (shipped)?
Link Posted: 5/13/2005 8:10:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TalonArms_R:
Carbine length gas system barrels will be M4 profile, light under handguards.


So 11.5" barrels will be lightweight under the HG, not medium like the LMT? I could go with either to be honest.

+1 on "F" FSB, and true M4 feedramps. Especially if the price is more reasonable than a Colt Commando upper.
Link Posted: 5/14/2005 10:46:51 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/14/2005 1:06:56 PM EDT
This is going to be around Sabre's price of ~$250 for chrome lined barrel?
Link Posted: 5/15/2005 7:18:26 AM EDT
I just got off the phone with Kel at Gemtech. I had a bad choice of words which I edited above.

Thanks for taking the time to clarify this issue. I have a Form 1 pending for an SBR, so sooner or later I'll be trying to decide what SBR upper I want. ;)
Link Posted: 5/15/2005 8:56:31 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Yojimbo:
What do I want? Hmmm, let's see...

1. 16" barrel
2. Mid-length gas system.
3. 4150 steel, Sabre says they use a better steel so that's good.
4. 1/7" twist
5. 5.56 chamber
6. Chrome lined chamber and bore.
7. M4 barrel extension not machined extended feed ramps! I hope you're able to convince them to do this.
8. Barrel MP tested and proofed.
9. Medium weight profile.
10. Keep the price around $300, lower is always better.
11. The "F" marked FSB shouldn't matter on mid-length but it probably wouldn't hurt.
12. Last but not least these barrels need to be available YESTERDAY!




I would be seriously tempted by one of these.

7 and 8 are optional for me. 9 is kind of nice though.
Link Posted: 5/16/2005 9:43:55 PM EDT
Any prices?
Link Posted: 5/16/2005 10:46:26 PM EDT
Another vote for a middy 1/7 with all the goodies.

I'd be interested in a 11.5" too, but I'd be in the market for a mid first.
Link Posted: 5/18/2005 3:17:19 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/18/2005 8:28:11 PM EDT
Sabre Defence and Talon Arms have put together a special run of barrels and uppers. These are non-catalog, special order only. Please email talonarms@prodigy.net with questions and order information. Specs and pricing are as follows:

16" Mid-length, 1/7 twist, chrome-lined barrels with M4 feed ramps and F marked FSB
$245 shipped. $250 w/ americansnipers.org donation.

Custom upper with this barrel. see specs below
$820 shipped. $825 w/ americansnipers.org donation

11.5" 1/7, Chrome lined barrel w/ M4 feed ramps and F marked FSB
$265 shipped. $270 w/ americansnipers.org donation

Custom upper with this barrel. see specs below
$820 shipped. $825 w/ americansnipers.org donation

14.5" 0r 16" 1/7, Chrome lined barrel w/ M4 feed ramps and F marked FSB
$245 shipped. $250 w/ americansnipers.org donation

Custom upper with this barrel. see specs below
$805 shipped. $810 w/ americansnipers.org donation

Nice going Rob
Link Posted: 5/18/2005 9:16:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/25/2005 11:54:15 AM EDT by TalonArms_R]
Link Posted: 5/25/2005 11:57:40 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/25/2005 11:21:00 PM EDT
this may be a little late, but how about M16 BCG as an option?
Link Posted: 5/26/2005 10:32:40 AM EDT

Originally Posted By gunnut003:
this may be a little late, but how about M16 BCG as an option?



That would be a nice option...
Link Posted: 5/26/2005 11:20:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 9divdoc:

Originally Posted By gunnut003:
this may be a little late, but how about M16 BCG as an option?



That would be a nice option...



He already said it was on option.

I want to know what the barrel steel is.

As for Gemtech cans not being warrantied with LMT 10.5" uppers I have seen Phil Dater say he would warranty them on this very site.
Link Posted: 5/26/2005 12:46:06 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/27/2005 10:52:53 AM EDT
Any word if they will be doing proof load test + magnetic particle inspection on these barrels?
Link Posted: 5/27/2005 12:09:48 PM EDT
According to Grant Morgan Sabre will be doing statistical testing and only a few from each batch will be tested.


Originally Posted By wyv3rn:
Any word if they will be doing proof load test + magnetic particle inspection on these barrels?

Link Posted: 5/27/2005 1:22:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/27/2005 1:24:01 PM EDT by wyv3rn]
Good to hear, certainly better than none. I wonder what percentage of the barrels Sabre actually tests. That's all most do because it is expensive. I didn't expect them all to be MP'd at that price.
Link Posted: 5/27/2005 9:44:58 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/4/2005 3:38:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TalonArms_R:
The demand for the mid-length gas system was so high we suspended our 11.5" option.


Any idea if/when that might get started up again? There's some interest elsewhere on the board:
Which 11.5 barrel? And my addiction to Black Rifles is going to require a prescription for an SBR in a few months.
Link Posted: 6/4/2005 7:03:24 PM EDT
I have heard the Sabre barrels come with round front end caps for the handguards.

So, for those of us going with plastic grips, where can we get midlength handguards that match the Sabre hardware?
Link Posted: 6/5/2005 10:22:53 AM EDT

Originally Posted By StormSurge:
I have heard the Sabre barrels come with round front end caps for the handguards.

So, for those of us going with plastic grips, where can we get midlength handguards that match the Sabre hardware?



IIRC, Cav Arms uppers are made by Sabre and they Cav Arms makes the mid-length plastic handguards for them.
Link Posted: 6/5/2005 11:32:26 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/5/2005 11:40:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/5/2005 11:40:40 AM EDT by Yojimbo]

Originally Posted By TalonArms_R:

You are correct. Cav Arms supplies Sabre with furniture and Sabre supplies Cav Arms with barrels and uppers.
So, the Cav Arms mid-length handguards will fit the Sabre barrels and uppers we are selling. In fact, you can even get the handguards from us for $35 with your barrel.





Is my barrel ready yet?
Link Posted: 6/5/2005 11:49:29 AM EDT
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