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Quoted: A 12.5" w/ A2 isn't as bad as a CQBR, but it is noticably worse than an M4. I know, kind of the answer you were expecting... With a KX3, the blast from a 10.5" is pretty mild, even compared to a 16" gun.
I'd personally use the 12.5" with the KX3. It extends the frag range of the rifle and the blast isn't as obnoxious to the rest of your crew. The rifle is still short and handy enough to use from a vehicle or in a mobile home, and is nowhere near as violently... Obnoxious. That's the only word I can think of to describe a sub-M4 5.56 in cramped quarters.
But then again, I'm one of the faux-gucci girls that digs accessories that perform useful tasks.
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well said... curious why you don't just go to a can or moderator? A Reflex can is actually shorter than the C3PO thing, weighs about the same (but puts the weight furhter back and actually moderates in the double digits... seems it would be a much better choice?
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Reflex syled back over the barrel cans currently available that fit short barrels are RD Systems at $900 and the $1200 Surefire. Both require 11.5" barrels and SPR gas blocks for minimum length. The RD weighs 21oz and gives better sound suppression than the 17oz Surefire. Both are the same length when the suppressor is installed adding 3.75" to the barrel length. Surefire uses an integrated A2 and RD allos the use of A2, Phantom or Vortex. RD Systems or Surefire is longer, heavier and WAY more expensive than KX3. Not really intended for the same things as the KX3 does not reduce sound but redirect it, is shorter lighter and less expensive. The KX3 is 7.2oz and the older KFH are 8.8 oz for comparrison.
I know Capn_Crunch has ordered a Surefire suppressor and I have ordered an RD Systems suppresor and hopefully we will get to shoot em side by side by Spring Break but they are not really an alternative to the Noveske KX3 in that they are REAL suppressors with the associated drawbacks.
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Great... but none of that is news, nor does it apply to my comment in which I did not say anything about *reflex style* cans -- and, just so you know, there are options that are just as I said: Shorter, effectively lighter and offer double digit dB moderation. I see no real "drawbacks" to something that is more effective, shorter, lighter... blah, blah, blah...
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Well, there are pros and cons to either setup...
Noveske KX3 Pros:
Inexpensive ($125)
Non-NFA (No $200 tax or wait)
9 oz lighter than the SF Can
Reasonably effective at redirecting blast
Noveske KX3 Cons:
Increases the length of the gun almost as much as the SF can
It IS 7 oz, and that's no lightweight muzzle device.
Surefire FA556A Pros:
Good suppression (at least as much as an M4-02, or a KAC M4QD)
Super lightweight for a suppressor (16-ish oz)
Durable as hell
Adds less than 4" to the OAL of the weapon
Negligible POI shift when installed or removed
Surefire FA556A Cons:
Expensive ($1050)
NFA Item ($200 tax plus the wait)
So yeah, the KX3 is a better device in some situations, and the Surefire can is better in situations where you can actually acquire/use a suppressor. The main being one of the current situations where barrel length is unrestricted, but due to export/import laws you can't get a can without a ton of hassle...
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I'm not trying to sway anyone one way or the other. The KX3 does have its place in the large scheme of things, however.