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Posted: 8/30/2004 8:45:08 PM EST
What are the laws concerning building an AR with an 11.5 inch barrel like the kits advertised at J&T. I was under the assumption that when all put together the riffle overall length requirement wouldn't be met, therefore requiring permits, taxes, fingerprints, ect just like an automatic firearm.

Have a friend wanting to build one....just checking.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 9:09:22 PM EST
Check in the M16/Full Auto area....there is a SBR FAQ tack for questions about Short Barreled Rifles (under 16"). I wanted to do something similar.....but after looking into it, it's more trouble than it's worth in my opinion.

Mike
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 8:27:15 PM EST
Thanks for info......It's all there in B&W. I'll pass it along.
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 6:31:05 AM EST
An AR with a 11.5" bbl is a SBR, and thus has to go through the ATF paperwork. If you add a flashider so the barrel is 16" you are good to go.
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 6:47:52 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/1/2004 6:48:18 AM EST by M4-guy]

Originally Posted By monkeyman:
An AR with a 11.5" bbl is a SBR, and thus has to go through the ATF paperwork. If you permanently add a flashider so the barrel is 16" you are good to go.



Fixed to be more exact.
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 7:12:42 AM EST

Originally Posted By M4-guy:

Originally Posted By monkeyman:
An AR with a 11.5" bbl is a SBR, and thus has to go through the ATF paperwork. If you permanently add a flashider so the barrel is 16" you are good to go.



Fixed to be more exact.



I am not so sure. I've looked through the laws and the only mention of permanently affixing the flashider is in the AWB.
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 8:09:30 AM EST
SBR's are covered under the NFA.

11.5" barrels with permanently attached 5.5" flash hiders have been around long before 1994.
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 9:27:05 AM EST
Monkeyman:
See my response to your comments here: Where to buy 1100 degree silver solder paste (NOT ONLINE)
that expands on M4-guy's comments above.

MI is not an NFA-friendly state, so that may be a reason SBR issues seem unfamiliar.

Cheers, Otto
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 11:24:22 AM EST
11.5 would be a sbr, or a pistol if it had no stock, a 5.5.brake permanently attatched would be legal, pin and weld, silver solder are both good ways, if you were local to me i would help you do the work
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