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Posted: 4/1/2012 4:41:07 PM EDT
Lovers? Haters? Educate me....thanks.
Link Posted: 4/1/2012 5:12:54 PM EDT
[#1]
Well, I want one regardless what others think, just a tad too pricy for me at the moment. They do seem like a helluva solid way to get into the whole piston scene though.
Link Posted: 4/1/2012 5:16:49 PM EDT
[#2]
I have seen a couple good reviews of it....
Link Posted: 4/1/2012 8:42:52 PM EDT
[#3]
generally positive

i think they look awesome.


HK front sight is stupid... and the flash hider is ugly as snot.



a nice yankee hill or vortex would clear that up along with some troy sights.
Link Posted: 4/2/2012 4:17:05 AM EDT
[#4]
Thanks. I have Several Ruger handguns and bolt rifles, all built like tanks. I just don't hear much about them from the AR guys.
Link Posted: 4/2/2012 9:41:09 AM EDT
[#5]
Try the piston forum, most of the people that own them love them.....myself included.
Link Posted: 4/2/2012 9:59:19 AM EDT
[#6]
i thought about getting one but went with a spikes mainly because the spikes was better for me and i liked the pirate roll mark. but ive seen and held several i like the fact that it comes with troy flip ups that are ruger marked and i think it comes with a troy railed hang guard as well. they seem well built and quality is there. haven't had the chance to shoot one though
Link Posted: 4/2/2012 5:47:53 PM EDT
[#7]
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Link Posted: 4/2/2012 6:43:27 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
generally positive

i think they look awesome.


HK front sight is stupid... and the flash hider is ugly as snot.



a nice yankee hill or vortex would clear that up along with some troy sights.


They are Troy sighs
Link Posted: 4/2/2012 6:45:20 PM EDT
[#9]
I have a few and am very impressed with their accuracy and reliability.
Link Posted: 4/4/2012 7:14:38 AM EDT
[#10]
Solid gun with a fan club. I got one because Ruger will keep it in their catalog for 20 or 30 years. They didn't start with a DI gun, and experiment like many of the other companies. Good customer service, no questions asked, no scolding or "we know what you did" comments, fixed free and returned.

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Link Posted: 4/4/2012 8:02:36 AM EDT
[#11]
I seriously looked at one,......bought an AA Tac Elite
Link Posted: 4/4/2012 4:06:03 PM EDT
[#12]
have one and like it so far.  First time out averaged 1.5 MOA with plain ammo.
 Once upgraded to match ammo groups tightened.  Only have few hundred rounds thru it so far.
Link Posted: 4/4/2012 4:56:01 PM EDT
[#13]
I have two Ruger uppers to share a single lower and like them a lot.  I don't use my DI gun as much any more unless I want to do certain things that it was made to do as the clean up is so much nicer on the Ruger.  I have not used cheap Rusian ammo but PPU works great.  Never had a single failure other than when playing around with the gas system settings for experimentaion.
Down side is price but when you factor in what you are getting-apples to apples, , it ends up evenning out.
Link Posted: 4/5/2012 10:07:30 AM EDT
[#14]
I bought an SR-556C about a year ago with my deployment money from the stan, and I couldn't be more happy with it. I've fired a lot of AR platforms before in and out of the military and this is one of the best bangs for your buck in my opinion, what with the Troy sights and rails, chrome barrel and bolt, and Hogue grips. People complain about carrier tilt but its been pretty well ironed out by now but if it still worries you I'd recommend a Slash H3 buffer, I love mine. And to people complaining about the weight, its a lot lighter than most of the other guns I've carried for long distances...
Link Posted: 4/5/2012 10:50:52 AM EDT
[#15]
I thought about it, until I held one.
Link Posted: 4/5/2012 4:12:51 PM EDT
[#16]
SR556E:  7.36 lbs
SR556C:  7.40 lbs
SR556CLA: 7.17 lbs

Lighter than quite a few DIs
Link Posted: 4/5/2012 4:21:31 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
I seriously looked at one,......bought an AA Tac Elite


Why?

curious, as I'm considering both.
Link Posted: 4/5/2012 4:44:51 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
SR556E:  7.36 lbs
SR556C:  7.40 lbs
SR556CLA: 7.17 lbs

Lighter than quite a few DIs


Way too front heavy. Full rifle length quad rail is too much. Got a piston carbine from addax tactical with magpul moe handguards. Much better.
Link Posted: 4/5/2012 6:07:46 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
SR556E:  7.36 lbs
SR556C:  7.40 lbs
SR556CLA: 7.17 lbs

Lighter than quite a few DIs


Those numbers are fudged by marketing.  The 556e is noticebly lighter than the C.  The 556e doesnt feel bad at all, the C model was noticeably front heavy.
Link Posted: 4/6/2012 3:32:15 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Quoted:
SR556E:  7.36 lbs
SR556C:  7.40 lbs
SR556CLA: 7.17 lbs

Lighter than quite a few DIs


Those numbers are fudged by marketing.  The 556e is noticebly lighter than the C.  The 556e doesnt feel bad at all, the C model was noticeably front heavy.


I've weighed my CLA with no ammo (empty mag in rifle) on a postal scale and the manufacturer's listed weight is correct.  
Link Posted: 4/6/2012 4:35:06 AM EDT
[#21]
I have a SR556C. It started out with carrier tilt that got worse. Ruger fixed it no questions asked. Even though I had my barrel modified by ADCO,which shaved off the existing flash hider and pinned on a Smith Vortex. I got a new buffer tube from them (Ruger) and the new design BCG.I have zero tilt now. Ruger customer service is the best! I love my SR556. No regrets!
Link Posted: 4/6/2012 4:37:53 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
I have a SR556C. It started out with carrier tilt that got worse. Ruger fixed it no questions asked. Even though I had my barrel modified by ADCO,which shaved off the existing flash hider and pinned on a Smith Vortex. I got a new buffer tube from them (Ruger) and the new design BCG.I have zero tilt now. Ruger customer service is the best! I love my SR556. No regrets!


Post some pics of the gun.  I'd like to see how it looks with a Vortex attached.

Link Posted: 4/6/2012 4:46:01 AM EDT
[#23]
Will do. When I get home from work today.
Link Posted: 4/6/2012 5:55:52 AM EDT
[#24]
Is the barrel a midlength? or is it slightly different and proprietary? It almost looks like the piston is longer than midlength
Link Posted: 4/6/2012 3:12:30 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Will do. When I get home from work today.


+1 for a pic also
Link Posted: 4/6/2012 3:13:25 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Is the barrel a midlength? or is it slightly different and proprietary? It almost looks like the piston is longer than midlength


It is a proprietary system.

Link Posted: 4/6/2012 3:13:43 PM EDT
[#27]
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Link Posted: 4/6/2012 6:00:41 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
Pics as promised:


I like it.

I've been toying with the idea of getting an AAC 51T added to my 556C so I can use my 762-SDN-6 suppressor on it.  My concern is that the ratchet mount and teeth might be in the way and make the piston parts hard to remove.
Link Posted: 4/6/2012 6:06:46 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Pics as promised:



Good job, thanks
Link Posted: 4/7/2012 7:01:24 AM EDT
[#31]
I had mine since January, and it has become my "go to" rifle.  Almost 1500 rounds trough the rifle without issues, regardless of the ammo.  I've carried M16A2s and M4s with all of the "cool guy" gear mounted, so the weight up front doesn't bother me at all.  The only thing I have changed, so far, on the rifle was to put on a troy "bolt on" push button mount for a single point sling and added a magpul ACS-L stock for improve cheek weld.  I'm planning on a giseele SSA trigger, and that will be a great set up for my purposes.
Link Posted: 4/8/2012 3:32:01 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
Pics as promised:

<a href="http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2953130080102067363EGdAxb" target="_blank">http://inlinethumb32.webshots.com/49759/2953130080102067363S600x600Q85.jpg</a>
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Is that a PWS enhanced buffer tube on it? were you having trouble with tilt?
Link Posted: 4/8/2012 3:44:25 PM EDT
[#33]
I have to ask how much that weighs
Link Posted: 4/8/2012 4:47:32 PM EDT
[#34]
I have the firt SR556 that came out and have not had any problems with it, including carrier tilt. Love the way yours looks with the barrel job and Vortex, did it alter your barrel length?
Link Posted: 4/8/2012 7:03:10 PM EDT
[#35]
Is that a PWS enhanced buffer tube on it? were you having trouble with tilt?

No, regular tube and yes, I did have tilt. Ruger fixed it for me.


I have to ask how much that weighs

Not sure, I never weighed it. Not too heavy for my arms and shoulders. But I aint a warfighter by any means.Just a range shooter.


I have the firt SR556 that came out and have not had any problems with it, including carrier tilt. Love the way yours looks with the barrel job and Vortex, did it alter your barrel length?

Thanks. The barrel is still 16".
Link Posted: 4/8/2012 9:10:24 PM EDT
[#36]
I have the SR556e with a Vortex Strike Fire red dot..... great combo if you are looking for piston that is reliable and a better than decent red dot without going HK416 coupled with an aimpoint that would def put a bigger dent in the wallet. I just came from my first range visit and couldn't be happier with the choice I made. budsgunshop had it at the best price and I sent it to my ffl with no issue. I am usually a Smith and Wesson shooter, but Ruger has done a fine job and willl see another purchase from my end
Link Posted: 4/9/2012 9:24:26 PM EDT
[#37]
I have had mine for a little over 2 years now , A couple of  thousand rounds with no issues.  including carrier tilt  . I did get rid of the flash suppressor , and replaced it with a Smith Enterprises Vortex. It is a little heavier than a DI  AR , But i don`t have a problem with the weight . But some people here don`t like it for that reason .Me I like mine and have no plans to get rid of it.
Link Posted: 4/29/2012 5:27:49 PM EDT
[#38]
What kinds of ammo do you guys feed it? 55gr? 69gr? any input on what they seem to like best?
Link Posted: 4/29/2012 6:12:09 PM EDT
[#39]
I really want one but only want the upper do you think it's a bad move only buying the upper will Ruger still support it considering i only buy the upper (for example any carrier tilt issues and or piston issues considering it is a sealed system)?
Link Posted: 4/29/2012 6:46:17 PM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
I really want one but only want the upper do you think it's a bad move only buying the upper will Ruger still support it considering i only buy the upper (for example any carrier tilt issues and or piston issues considering it is a sealed system)?


I've used my SR-556C upper on a couple different Colt lowers with no issues and I don't think anyone's had a mechanical problem with the Ruger piston parts.

Link Posted: 5/1/2012 5:43:28 PM EDT
[#41]
I've got 300 rounds thru my 556E and having a blast....no problems to date ie tilt, malfunctions or otherwise.  Oh yea...after 36 years, cleaning the chamber, oh yea!   Just my .02!
Link Posted: 5/5/2012 4:50:35 AM EDT
[#42]
All of the SR's I've fired have choked on the cheap steel cased ammo. I have some Hornady steel match on order and will see how it works.
Link Posted: 5/5/2012 12:28:06 PM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
All of the SR's I've fired have choked on the cheap steel cased ammo. I have some Hornady steel match on order and will see how it works.


I have the 556E, I put 140 rounds of Tula steel case through it the other day. It even held quarter size groups at 100 yards. Not one jam, not one malfunction. I do not understand why everyone is against the steel case ammo, yes it is dirtier and requires more cleaning but what else keeps people from using it?
Link Posted: 5/5/2012 8:20:56 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I really want one but only want the upper do you think it's a bad move only buying the upper will Ruger still support it considering i only buy the upper (for example any carrier tilt issues and or piston issues considering it is a sealed system)?


I've used my SR-556C upper on a couple different Colt lowers with no issues and I don't think anyone's had a mechanical problem with the Ruger piston parts.



Thanks that's great to hear Melvin im almost days away from getting a 556 upper but a couple more questions if you don't mind...

1.  With the 1/9 twist can u use heavy bullets, keep hearing that heavy bullets are better with a 1/7 twist? Is it just an accuracy issue or you can't shoot the heavier bullets in the barrel?
2.  Not worried about weight so what is the better choice the 556c upper or the 556fb upper?
3.  Finally I'm kind of worried about not being able to get the the piston rod and spring by taking off the rail.  I know Ruger says it will outlast the rifle but still don't like it.  Any thoughts on your thinking with this?
Link Posted: 5/6/2012 5:53:46 AM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:


Thanks that's great to hear Melvin im almost days away from getting a 556 upper but a couple more questions if you don't mind...

1.  With the 1/9 twist can u use heavy bullets, keep hearing that heavy bullets are better with a 1/7 twist? Is it just an accuracy issue or you can't shoot the heavier bullets in the barrel?
2.  Not worried about weight so what is the better choice the 556c upper or the 556fb upper?
3.  Finally I'm kind of worried about not being able to get the the piston rod and spring by taking off the rail.  I know Ruger says it will outlast the rifle but still don't like it.  Any thoughts on your thinking with this?



1>  I've used 75gr ammo in the 1x9 twist with no noted issues.  

2>  If you want a slightly shorter OAL, the 556C would be the way to go.  If you want to change out flash hiders and have a threaded barrel, the standard 556 upper would be best.

3>  The transfer rod is accessible but it takes disassembly of the upper to get to it.  Not something Ruger recommends or something you'd probably want to do after each range session.
Link Posted: 5/7/2012 1:03:30 PM EDT
[#46]
Thx that helps

Quoted:
Quoted:


Thanks that's great to hear Melvin im almost days away from getting a 556 upper but a couple more questions if you don't mind...

1.  With the 1/9 twist can u use heavy bullets, keep hearing that heavy bullets are better with a 1/7 twist? Is it just an accuracy issue or you can't shoot the heavier bullets in the barrel?
2.  Not worried about weight so what is the better choice the 556c upper or the 556fb upper?
3.  Finally I'm kind of worried about not being able to get the the piston rod and spring by taking off the rail.  I know Ruger says it will outlast the rifle but still don't like it.  Any thoughts on your thinking with this?



1>  I've used 75gr ammo in the 1x9 twist with no noted issues.  

2>  If you want a slightly shorter OAL, the 556C would be the way to go.  If you want to change out flash hiders and have a threaded barrel, the standard 556 upper would be best.

3>  The transfer rod is accessible but it takes disassembly of the upper to get to it.  Not something Ruger recommends or something you'd probably want to do after each range session.


Link Posted: 5/8/2012 11:14:30 PM EDT
[#47]
I've had my SR556FB since January. This is by far the best AR platform I've ever had. I really like Ruger's gas piston system. The bolt and carrier group stay amazingly clean and the gun runs cool.

I have the later version with the radiused edges on the carrier. It looks like the carrier tilt has been resolved at Ruger.

The FB version is the only SR556 with a threaded barrel allowing for removal of the flash hider. Admittedly, Ruger's flash hiders do leave something to be desired.

Overall though, this is a very nice rifle. NIB here in Oregon for about $1495.00. Definitely not cheap, but you get a lot of gun and accessories for your money. Three Magpul P30 mags and a very nice soft gun case come with the gun. For the money though, I think Ruger should have added a nice Magpul buttstock instead of the standard M4.

http://www.stafforddesign.com/craigpics/sr556-3.jpg type.
Link Posted: 5/9/2012 9:08:55 PM EDT
[#48]
Bought one from a member in the equipment exchange and couldn't be happier, if you have the money I definitely think its worth the price.
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