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Posted: 8/7/2007 12:38:52 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/6/2007 8:40:25 AM EST by CrossTac]
We are excited to announce another new product to the AR15 crowd! This is our new front sight rail. We have refined this part for quite some time now. This part is fully CNC machined out of solid 6061 aluminum bar stock and given a matte black anodized finish.
What it does This mounts on the bayonet lugs under your front sight. We have found it very useful for mounting items on short upper AR's. Things like: Lights The SureFire x200 lights have a toggle switch on the back of the light that aligns perfectly with your weak hand index finger. You have to try this to really see how awesome that setup works. No more paddle switches unless you want them! Vertical Grips You can mount a vertical grip on a shorty without taking up space on the forearm. This is a really clean way to do this on a REALLY short AR upper - Benefits: Uses the stock pin to mount. Slides into place firmly over the bayonet lugs. Super tough. Also, for slinging up with a 2-point sling you have several options:
Here are some pics - Pricing is $49 (a little more with the Big Ring) <-- new name for that part, what do you guys think?    Here is a link to the page on our site: Cletus Front Sight Picatinny Rail Mount |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2007 2:05:40 PM EST
That's a neat idea. Is there any play or it is pretty solid? Will it come with the roll pin or do you have to re-use the one for the sling loop?
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Posted: 8/7/2007 2:15:48 PM EST
Kind of pricey but looks very well made.
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Posted: 8/7/2007 2:47:57 PM EST
I was looking for something just like this, but I would only go as high as $35-$40.
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Posted: 8/7/2007 4:11:29 PM EST
Thanks! The part is pretty solid - no play front to back - with a VFG mounted on it (think 7" upper - pics to follow) there is no more side to side than what you feel on standard M4 guards with a rail mount. We are including a drill bit to remove the rivet in the existing sling loop and either a roll pin OR an 8-32 hex cap screw with a lock nut. (which would you prefer?) to attach the rail. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2007 5:16:15 PM EST
Hmm... would be cool for a KISS carbine.... next on my list.
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Posted: 8/8/2007 9:08:34 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/8/2007 9:09:15 AM EST by CrossTac]
 One of our beta testers in the red zone:  |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/8/2007 9:25:00 AM EST
I have a similar setup with a bayo pic mount from another company, Your version is longer and attaches differently (mine has set-screws). I paid slightly less for mine, but am in for a couple when they become available. It's clean and simple; utilizing a rarely used attachment point. I don't plan to have to do a frontal assault with bayonets fixed.
Good product! buckmeister |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 8/10/2007 4:40:42 AM EST
I like hte hex cap screw idea, but either one would be fine. Thanks for the pics |
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Posted: 8/10/2007 12:53:36 PM EST
Ok, ok...
It's growing on me. 
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Posted: 8/11/2007 10:07:17 AM EST
Looks interesting,
<BR> TAGGED!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted: 8/11/2007 10:15:28 AM EST
Very nice. I already have a railed handguard on mine, but I applaud your ingenuity in designing it and your initiative for bringing it to market. Again, very nice.
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Posted: 8/11/2007 10:21:16 AM EST
QUESTION:
I've got a Harris Bipod mounted to a rail on the underside of my forarm with the legs of the bipod extended forward. Would this setup allow me to mount a light such as the surefire without obstructing the legs of the bipod from closing? |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 8/11/2007 12:05:04 PM EST
This is wonderful. I was looking for a bayo-lug rail for my SBR, however, with this, I'd have so much more!
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Posted: 8/11/2007 5:54:18 PM EST
Can you post a picture or IM me a description your forarm? It should clear with no problem - but we can check to be sure. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 8/12/2007 1:16:55 PM EST
I like it! I might get one for a light mount on my 11.5", but I think it is too long to clear the suppressor on my 10.5" upper.
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Posted: 8/13/2007 3:12:20 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/13/2007 3:13:45 PM EST by CrossTac]
Here are some closeups so you can figure that out. I grabbed an old front sight, this should help you. The metal ends at the front pocket cut you can see here. So, forward of that is solid 6061. You could remove some of the rail as you see fit. We already put an angle cut on the part so it would not interfere, but if you need to remove more metal for a special situation you could, it's solid stock. So, essentially you could make this rail only 1/4" in front of your bayonet mount. Or, preserve the rail length and just remove some from the top face. That should clear about anything!  
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MD, USA
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Posted: 8/13/2007 4:18:46 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/14/2007 11:15:19 AM EST by NFATrust]
Thanks for the pics. I will definitely pick one up when they become available.
Here is a pic of what I will try to use it on: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/Joelk69/IMG_0460c.jpg I also have to pick up as set of your AR-15 armorer blocks as they seem very nice tooAfter exchanging IMs with CrossTac I just wanted to add how helpfull they have been to someone who has not even purchased anything from them yet. |
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Posted: 8/25/2007 12:17:00 PM EST
Not sure what happened to the review on the CrossTac armorers block, but it's a great piece of gear. Whether you tinker or really build ARs it's a serious tool.
I'd also like to say their service is second to none. They go the extra mile to make sure you get you order and are happy with it. This is how companies should operate. Thanks, Vern |
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Posted: 8/25/2007 3:43:32 PM EST
Looks like an interesting accessory.
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Posted: 8/25/2007 3:49:26 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/25/2007 3:50:29 PM EST by THellURider]
Ok I want one with the side sling attachment. Let me know when I can get one.
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Posted: 8/27/2007 6:19:24 AM EST
I like this idea ALOT. good ingenuity!
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Posted: 8/27/2007 9:56:55 AM EST
Thank you very much Vern! That is music to our ears, and helps make all the stress of running a small company worthwhile. The armorer blocks are linked below, just in case anyone wants to see what Vern was referring to. (the forum fell off the first couple pages here - if anyone wants to help keep us up front, ask some questions or something  )CrossTac Armorer Block Thread |
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USA
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Posted: 9/6/2007 2:36:32 AM EST
Will this mount work with a Standard Colt side sling mount? Looks like it will but I would like to read that you guys have actually tested and verified that it works? How soon before this is available for purchase?
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 9/10/2007 4:50:02 PM EST
Now, this I like.
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Posted: 9/11/2007 3:33:38 AM EST
interesting...
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Posted: 9/11/2007 5:44:07 AM EST
on the blue gun there's a colt side slign mount. |
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Posted: 9/13/2007 9:49:28 AM EST
Absolutely. chapperjoe spotted it on the blue gun but we have run M4's without removing the side sling adapter as well. In addition you can thread in a stud or loop sling mount on either side and reduce weight and clutter by taking off the side sling mount. Available before the year end at crosstac.com . Thanks for your interest. T |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 12:34:48 PM EST
sounds great to me, i don't like the one i have inbetween my fsb much and this is prefect
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 9/22/2007 5:19:08 PM EST
As soon as you guys get this to market, I'll buy one. Any idea when this item will be available? I've been putting of one of your action blocks so I can combine the order.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/22/2007 7:53:27 PM EST
any idea how much you'll end up pricing them at?
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Posted: 9/24/2007 5:24:51 PM EST
Guitpicker - It's not firmly set yet - but the good news is that it is in production and should be out in about 3 weeks!
I'm guessing right now it will probably be around $49 unless everyone on this board thinks that is out of line. Personally I feel that is not bad considering it is made in the USA and CNC cut from solid bar stock, glass bead blasted, and anodized matte black. It is a high quality part. I'd buy it for that, and that is my litmus test. If everyone here thinks that is too high we can look at making it offshore, but the demand has to be there. If it were sourced in China the price would be 1/2 of that, but we really REALLY don't like sending anything offshore especially to a communist country, unless it is absolutely a matter of survival. So far, we have not sent anything offshore and really don't want to start. It keeps us from competing on WalMart price levels, but our quality is very high and you can actually pick up the phone and talk to us. On another note, I just finished checking out a friend's AR - another one that had a short chunk of picatinny screwed to the bottom of the handguard. It was actually annoying to hold - as in, it actually hurts the hand. It reminded me of why I don't have any rail mounted to mine and this design makes so much sense. Plus I like being able to turn the X200 flashlight on and off with my offhand fingertip. Enough of my rambling - I hope to have your support on this product and gain your business as a customer. Thanks! Bret |
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Posted: 9/24/2007 5:59:28 PM EST
Without having held it in my hand and seen it on my AR I have a hard time saying; but $49 seems like it may be reasonable. I want one with a side sling swivel.
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OR, USA
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Posted: 9/30/2007 1:40:13 PM EST
$49 seems reasonable. If ARMS can get $320 for a 7 inch rail system, 49 for this is a steal :D
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SC, USA
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Posted: 10/3/2007 12:38:48 PM EST
I have been wanting something like this for mounting a light.
I wanted to retain my standard handguards (so no railed handguard mounting), and I didn;t want to to a FSB mount as I have my sling attached IDF style. This rail should do the trick just nicely. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 10/3/2007 4:22:59 PM EST
Just what the doctor ordered!
I'll take one. |
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FIN
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Posted: 10/3/2007 9:50:53 PM EST
$49 isn't bad at all in my opinion. This looks like a good solution for guys like me who don't want to shell out cash for a rail system just to mount a light on a rifle.
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Posted: 10/3/2007 10:11:02 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2007 10:11:45 PM EST by yekimak]
I like it. $49 seems a little on the high side at first, but it does look like a well thought out and solid piece...I'd probably go for one if I got to fondle one first at a store or on a friend's gun or something. Heck of alot cheaper than buying a rail setup and makes more sense then spending $150-$300 on rails just to attach a light, and it has to be tougher than the cheapie rails that go on regular HG's..
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USA
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Posted: 10/17/2007 12:28:54 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/18/2007 2:32:02 AM EST by airgunner]
Well I didn't miss it on the Blue gun, that's why I said it looks like it would fit but fitting something on a plastic mock up isn't the same as using it on the real thing. I'm glad to read it will work with the real thing. Thanks |
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Posted: 10/20/2007 5:36:45 AM EST
Yes, it was designed on the real thing. The blue gun was simply handy at the shop that day to snap some photos. I'll post some more photos of the Cletus mount on an M4 shortly with a side swivel and our ambi sling connector.
The great thing about that setup is that you can have a convertible single point / two point sling very easily. The pics will make more sense. The Cletus parts are at the anodizer and should be shipped to us this coming week. 
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Posted: 10/20/2007 9:10:14 AM EST
Well hurry up, I want one.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 10/30/2007 2:39:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/30/2007 2:39:42 PM EST by kimbergoldmatch]
They're in stock now, I just placed an order for one.
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Posted: 10/30/2007 2:43:41 PM EST
You guys are WAY too fast. I was just updating the site and I didn't even get the gallery pics running yet! That is awesome!! I literally just posted the product to the website.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 10/30/2007 2:44:33 PM EST
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FL, USA
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Posted: 10/30/2007 2:54:53 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/30/2007 2:55:13 PM EST by kimbergoldmatch]
I've gotta ask........ why the name Cletus?
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Posted: 10/30/2007 9:01:28 PM EST
Order placed. Now I have to order another sling.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/31/2007 3:47:38 AM EST
I just ordered mine this morning. I got a Sure Fire X300 last Saturday and was in a real quandry as to how to mount it. I tried a MI 1" bolt on rail piece on my standard plastic CAR fore end, but did not like it. It crowds the hand and bites when the X300 is not mounted. I commented to a friend that I wish there was a bayonet lug mount rail, but didn't think such a thing existed. I found this thread the following Monday, and was really pleased. This is exactly what I was looking for. By the way, the X300 is absolutely awesome. It easily illuminates stuff at 100 yards. LED technology is really getting interesting. How long before head lights are LED? |
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Posted: 11/1/2007 8:45:22 AM EST
We have some close friends in the industry that like to name their products with Greek names. You might be able to figure out who they are... Besides, I guess it really is a "cleat"
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 11/1/2007 7:26:34 PM EST
Cool.
Next paycheck, a Cletus & an armorer's block. |
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Posted: 11/4/2007 1:52:42 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/4/2007 1:53:38 PM EST by THellURider]
Well, I installed it. I had to remove the sling swivel from the FSB first which took some doing.
But here is my Midlength KISS rifle now with light.   This mount is pretty solid! The machining is beautiful. I had the "ring" installed on the left side. Used paracord to create a sling loop for my Vickers sling. I'm very happy this product came out. I was going to end up getting a mount on the side of my FSB for a light, but I like this better. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 11/5/2007 4:14:46 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/5/2007 7:01:23 PM EST by kimbergoldmatch]
I just got my rail today, I put in on a fairly new Colt LE6920, the Colt side sling mount will not go back on, it hits the rail so one or the other would have to be ground for clearance.
I sent CrossTac pictures of the issues. I looked for the picture of the dummy rifle in this post but it looks like it's gone? Edit: It will fit but it takes some effort and filing will be necessary to avoid resistance. http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee137/kimbergoldmatch/Picture027.jpg http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee137/kimbergoldmatch/Picture029.jpg |
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