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Posted: 2/25/2010 3:05:37 PM EDT
I bought this rifle new via gunbroker.  I noticed the milky blotches on the receivers when I picked it up at my FFL.  I cleaned the rifle and shot about 80 rounds through it.  I seems to be a little worst that before.  I wiped the receivers with some Hoppe's gun oil and it looked better for about a hour.  Armalite says this is normal.  What do you guys think?  Thanks, Mike

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Link Posted: 2/25/2010 3:06:28 PM EDT
That looks terrible.
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 3:06:54 PM EDT
Put some oil on it.  It looks dry.
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 3:07:52 PM EDT
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Put some oil on it.  It looks dry.


+1 lube it up and it will be fine..
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 3:08:07 PM EDT
Honestly looks like the finish needs oil. Lub it and then see what it looks like.

If it looks the same then No I would not accept that.
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 3:08:13 PM EDT
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Put some oil on it.  It looks dry.


I oil it and it looks better for a hour or so then the blotches come back.
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 3:09:52 PM EDT
normal my ass...send it back
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 3:10:24 PM EDT
When I went to the local shop to get my bushy, the one they wanted to sell me looked just like that. It looked like the finish had oxidized.  I told them they could put that one back on the shelf and grabe a new one they still had in the box.  IMHO its not acceptable.  Hopefully they stand by their product and do the right thing.
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 3:10:54 PM EDT

I would just shoot the heck out of it, the marks give it character
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 3:11:03 PM EDT
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normal my ass...send it back


Or paint it FDE
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 3:12:40 PM EDT
Hell no.
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 3:15:19 PM EDT
Looks like some sort of staining.  You tried really degreasing it with say isopropyl alcohol or maybe even brake cleaner (not sure if that will damage the anno) and then putting some oil on it again?
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 3:16:07 PM EDT
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Put some oil on it.  It looks dry.


I oil it and it looks better for a hour or so then the blotches come back.


Try a differeny oil, i.e., CLP.
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 3:16:23 PM EDT
Yeah, that would be returned in my book...
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 3:19:22 PM EDT
That is B.S. return it
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 3:21:08 PM EDT
I'm not a cosmetics kinda guy but if the finish looks like that after cleaning and oiling, something is not right with the anodizing.

I'd return it. BSW
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 3:23:32 PM EDT
That sucks!  I'd be hopping mad and fit to be tied.  Send it back!
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 3:23:37 PM EDT
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I'm not a cosmetics kinda guy but if the finish looks like that after cleaning and oiling, something is not right with the anodizing.

I'd return it. BSW


I agree with this
Send it back.
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 3:23:49 PM EDT
Send it back!
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 3:25:36 PM EDT
Why did you shoot 80 rounds thru it if you were going to send it back and did not like finish?
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 3:27:24 PM EDT
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I'm not a cosmetics kinda guy but if the finish looks like that after cleaning and oiling, something is not right with the anodizing.

I'd return it. BSW


this.  Normally, I'm on the "its a tool" bandwagon, but that looks terrible.
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 3:27:53 PM EDT
Looks like a cow. Send that back!
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 3:30:38 PM EDT
That's the new nighttime camo pattern

Nah, I think I'd send it back if a heavy oiling did not make the difference. Do ya think an Armalite boss would accept that on his own rifle?
There is more to a rifle than how it shoots, scratches and wear I accept, a bad finish is not acceptable when you have choices.
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 3:31:47 PM EDT
If you bought it for the finish, send it back.

If you bought it to shoot, shoot it.
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 3:32:07 PM EDT
Unless your gonna camo it send it back,im sure you paid enough for it..thats what I would do.I camo everything so it wouldnt be a problem for me but if not you deserve a proper finish for the money.
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 3:33:23 PM EDT
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I'm not a cosmetics kinda guy but if the finish looks like that after cleaning and oiling, something is not right with the anodizing.

I'd return it. BSW


this.  Normally, I'm on the "its a tool" bandwagon, but that looks terrible.


+1
Scratches, dings, and marks give it character.
But coming from the factory thats unacceptable and I'd be pissed at the dude who sold it also
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 3:40:57 PM EDT
CLP will fix that.
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 3:58:51 PM EDT
small problems with finish can be overlooked easily and arnt of great concern but thats just to much...im all for not sweating the cosmetic stuff but if you paid full price for THAT id send it back
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 4:04:57 PM EDT
My AR 10 looked like that when it was new in the case also.  I just added oil.  The finish on Armalite rifles is not the glossy black you see on other ARs and when it gets dry and collects lint/dust it looks like that.  Personally I like the finish better than the glossier ones.
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 4:07:38 PM EDT



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CLP will fix that.


I'd bet a few dollars you are most likely correct.



I got quite a few RRA lowers 4~yrs ago that were blotchy like that i kept applying clp for a few weeks and they eventually soaked it up and stayed black.......



 
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 4:09:56 PM EDT
I just digressed it with alcohal and will give it a coat of CLP.  I will let you know how it works out.
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 4:11:06 PM EDT
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Armalite says this is normal.

I guess normal is a relative term but let's just say I've seen that before and you shouldn't need to replace it. I had an LMT upper and a lower just like that and when I posted about here, I found others who have had other receivers from other companies with the same issue. So in that sense, it is somewhat normal.
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CLP will fix that.

Hoppes and CLP will not "fix it" I tried crap loads of CLP to "fix" mine but no dice. After posting here I found out that Rem-Oil in the aerosol can is the "fix". Spray it on heavy and leave it there (do not wipe off the excess) for a couple of hours (or better yet, overnight). Wipe it off in the morning and it will look great. Now in a couple of days to a week it might start looking like that again. If it does, give it another coating of Rem-Oil like before. After that I bet it will never look like that again. At least try is before fighting with Armalite and going through the hassle of getting it exchanged.
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 4:13:38 PM EDT
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Send it back!


As I said, I bought it new from a reputable dealer on Gunbroker.   When I picked it up at my FFL I though a little CLP would do the trick, It didn't. .  I had no intentions of sending it back but it got worst after a trip to the range.  Christ, it's a new rifle.
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 4:19:50 PM EDT
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Why did you shoot 80 rounds thru it if you were going to send it back and did not like finish?




As I said, I bought it new from a reputable dealer on Gunbroker. When I picked it up at my FFL I though a little CLP would do the trick, It didn't. . I had no intentions of sending it back but it got worst after a trip to the range. Christ, it's a new rifle.
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 4:21:32 PM EDT
I used CLP on it first.  Then Hoppe's oil.  I will try the Rem Oil now.  Thanks
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 4:33:07 PM EDT
Did you send those pics that you showed us to Armalite, when they said it was normal? If so I would have to disagree with them. I hope you can work something out that will make you happy. Hey, anyway I still think your rifle is waycool !  BD
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 4:41:01 PM EDT
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My AR 10 looked like that when it was new in the case also.  I just added oil.  The finish on Armalite rifles is not the glossy black you see on other ARs and when it gets dry and collects lint/dust it looks like that.  Personally I like the finish better than the glossier ones.


Here is the finish on the M15 I picked up the same day.  Big difference.


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Link Posted: 2/25/2010 4:44:55 PM EDT
If sending it back is possible I would do that.  However it would be an easy fix with any of the "coats" (duracoat, gunkote, etc.)

ETA: I like norrells a lot too.
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 4:46:36 PM EDT
fuck no....
I know it is gonna get scratched when you u use it and all, but that is not acceptable in my book.  You should get what you pay for.  It is an armalite for heavens sake.
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 4:47:12 PM EDT
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I bought this rifle new via gunbroker.  I noticed the milky blotches on the receivers when I picked it up at my FFL.  I cleaned the rifle and shot about 80 rounds through it.  I seems to be a little worst that before.  I wiped the receivers with some Hoppe's gun oil and it looked better for about a hour.  Armalite says this is normal.  What do you guys think?  Thanks, Mike

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What the f    , if that dealer won't take that back with an apology he needs to turned black and blue to match it.
And people want to know know one reason I like RRA and BCM, no BS.

Link Posted: 2/25/2010 4:53:44 PM EDT
Paint it FDE & say fuck it.

Or send it back.... either or.
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 4:57:59 PM EDT
I cleaned it with isopropyl alcohol and let it dry.  I looks better.  I just spayed it down with Rem Oil and will let it sit overnight.  If the milky areas appear again I will take it from there.  Thanks for the replies.  I will post tomorrow.
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 4:59:22 PM EDT
oil & rub with black denim
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 5:05:55 PM EDT
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oil & rub with black denim


?  I mean no offense, but i dont see how that will help.  Please explain.....thanks.
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 5:20:44 PM EDT
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My AR 10 looked like that when it was new in the case also.  I just added oil.  The finish on Armalite rifles is not the glossy black you see on other ARs and when it gets dry and collects lint/dust it looks like that.  Personally I like the finish better than the glossier ones.


Here is the finish on the M15 I picked up the same day.  Big difference.


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Here is my AR10, it looked JUST like yours when it was NIB, I oiled it and it looks like this now:







It seems whenever I put it back in the factory foam case it dried it out again and I had to reoil.

For comparison, here is a Bushmaster:



Looks similar to the M15 you posted.  Maybe AR10s just have a "drier" finish?
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 5:45:31 PM EDT
Some dumb ass thought he would paint it in camo. Realized he was much to stupid to perform this.

And removed it the best a stupid ass could. And then sold it to you.

Sorry the truth can hurt sometimes.
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 5:46:54 PM EDT
The anodize on ARs is porous, my Bushie looked blotchy with the CLP weeping from the pins.



Black denim does not drive light colored lint into the pores when you wipe more clp into the finish.
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 5:49:12 PM EDT
No offense but are you just not man enough to take care of this?  Demand restitution in one way or another.   It's obviously unacceptable.  

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Link Posted: 2/25/2010 5:58:03 PM EDT
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Some dumb ass thought he would paint it in camo. Realized he was much to stupid to perform this.

And removed it the best a stupid ass could. And then sold it to you.

Sorry the truth can hurt sometimes.


It came from a reputable dealer.  It had never been transferred before it came to me.  Man, I thought I was distrustful.  
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 6:09:12 PM EDT
Send it back.
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 6:23:32 PM EDT
You have obviously never parkerized something, and are making a completely false statement.


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Some dumb ass thought he would paint it in camo. Realized he was much to stupid to perform this.



And removed it the best a stupid ass could. And then sold it to you.



Sorry the truth can hurt sometimes.






 
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