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Posted: 9/17/2003 1:09:45 PM EDT
hmmmm? the eeeevil empire seems to be bent on expanding its' chokehold on internet firearms boards.
only this time, they ran into a woman with integrity and more ballz than they had! blackmail!?!?! they attempted to blackmail jen?!?! holy mother of all morons, batman! well, the old saying that "money can't buy brains" has been proven true, once again. read jen's response to thornton and the gang of four, here: www.falfiles.com/forums/announcement.php?s=&forumid=50 lordy! how stupid can some people be?!?! jen, i wish you continued success with the falfils! you and your members have done an outstanding job over the years! edit to make hotlink active |
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As a new FALaholic, I recently signed on to FAL files and will soon become a contributing memeber. I tip my hat to Jen for standing her ground. After reading this, Tapco will never get any of my business again.
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Now it's even more apparent how much gunsnutz.nutz is hated on the internet.....
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Got it, Tapco crossed off the approved buy list for now. Glad I didn't get time to place that order today. Please advise if and when they can be returned to the status of reputable vendor.
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That lady has class!
Much more so, than the lowlifes at gunsluts, and Buddie at Tapco! Tapco has seen the last of my business! Screw 'em! He won't be hawkin' his crap around here! Bob, let us know if there is a drive to help her out in her sad financial situation!...I'm in! BWAHAHAHAHAHAha... VCopied from dumbass himself...and I quote: "To: FAL Files / Jen Workman my responce " ...let's pitch in and buy this dickface a spellchecker! |
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rot, et al:
click the "comment here" link on my above link. there are many already ponied up to help jen out with a few bucks in that thread. i'll be sending a twenty, tomorrow from work. yeah, this whole thing with the lying fake seal and his bullying is about stupid. the worst thing is the members and lackys that actually support him! the ones that "don't care" piss me off worse than the ignorant morons that run that excuse for a board! "don't care"?!?! they give tacit approval to an asshole (actually, a team of assholes) when the alternatives are so many and so much better. i'm glad i'm out of that madhouse! the inmates are truely running the assylum. duhthorn's threats of blackmail stink of cowardice. that's how he deals with a lady? he's got his nerve. lying, straightfaced, about being a hero! if it weren't so pathetic i'ld be laughing my ass off!! valmet mike was correct! what a bunch of fucking morons!!! ah! the freak show continues! don't miss an exciting minute of he coniving, the lower than a snake's belly dealings, the petty lies and the lunatic rantings of "as duhthorn turns"! |
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Gunsnet.net is not allowing links to the falfiles now. LMAO. What a bunch of prepubescent bullshit. More like third graders than men. It is extremely difficult for me to imagine adults acting like this and the entire thing is a black eye to the gun community.
As for TAPCO... Well, I don't spend tons with them but I spend enough. That is done. Shit, between RGUNS, Joeken, Tapco, soon I won't be able to buy anything anymore. Now even SAWLESALES is starting their bullshit and I had planned on picking up a couple of Colt uppers and some spare parts for Xmas. Who's next? KVAR? WTF????? Perhaps these vendors are getting hit hard by the economic slowdown. They sure all seem to be getting damn irritable for sure. In any event, Buddie taking sides with gunsnet over falfiles is a big, big mistake. I am loyal to the boards I frequent and their members, within reason of course, and I will continue to be. Hopefully Buddie will pull his head out. We all know beauxhuntress, Ho and the rest will continue on their merry, deluded, personality disordered way. To hell with them. As time goes on they will get what is coming to them. Of that, I have no doubt. |
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I saw a gleaful post on gun.nuts ;) about how tapco just left falfiles and join up at gun.net. Though it was in poor taste. Now I'm sure there a bunch of idiots over there.
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Does Bowhunt own any guns? I've never seen him post anything in regards to AKs, or any other type of firearms for that matter.
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perhaps we should IM Tapco Tony this thread. Just wonder if they support this site financialy or if they get a free ride.
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My C&R went out to Tapco this morning. I'll call them Monday and tell them to remove it from their files. Fuck Em!
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I don't own a FAL. Probably never will. But you gotta love a chick who stands hard on principle.
By what mechanism do I get her a small contribution? Thanks. SD |
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From those without honor (GunsNet) nothing should be surprising.
Regards, Gary |
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I just cancelled a pending order with Tapco, and I spent $2k last year with them (two HUGE FAL orders). For now, they're dead to me.
take care, Tec |
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Tec,
Please call them and advise them so. Bob, my firewall has the site blocked, can you post a PayPal address? I will get some coins accross the internet ASAP. Also Mr.Thorton is the same POS that told everyone (the day he was exposed as a fake Navy Seal) that his wife had cancer, and had to leave the boards to take care of her. WHAT A PIECE OF SHIT!, this is how he morphed from DThor to Boyhunter. I will say though, I do understand that flowers and a note were sent to his wife This is the type people that Tapco, and the rest of AK.nutz want to be associted with! |
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and the dotnutz coverup has already begun...
www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?s=a7916bbafcd8114f8c5820b975347414&threadid=137561 the usual gang of sychophants "sticking by their friends"!!!! bwahahahahahaha!!! or is the 'psychophants'?!?! good ol' st. mickolas (hiya rusty) explains 'how things are' to the world! ah, it's good to see the truth come out of the closet...again! and now i have even more material for my future issue "duhthorn's greatest stupidity/hits" cd-rom! |
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Apparently, they've already killed that thread... |
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Couldn't even get that far. I'm banned. Oh what a loss. Where'd these guys learn their business practices? On reruns of Dallas?Prediction. The internet firearms comunity is a small one. It won't be long before this is common knowledge and Gunsnet membership starts drifting away. I give it a year eighteen months tops. |
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It appears that they (Tapco) asked for a refund of their annual fee after withdrawling their support. They then bitched about not receiving the refund. Hell, if you agree to pay an annual fee and then try to cancel half way through the year how can you expect a refund. I have done a lot of bussiness with them but after seeing how they handeled this I am not sure I will continue to do so. They would have been better off by not renewing when the terms of their agreement was up and avoiding all the bitching and fighting.
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Or this little gem:
www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=135799 From 3rd post- Editted by BowHunt Sorry friend but at this time it would not be prudent for us to do this due to the instability of that website and the attitude towards us at this time. The Moderator on this forum is an expert in this field and will be able to help this Guns Network member out as well as many of members here. We try to keep the info on our websites not send it out to other websites if you get my drift. We appreciate your wanting to help this member as best as you know how, lets just try to give him as much help from off this website as we can. I am sure you can agree with me. If they want to start another site and invite others over to post and sponsor, fine with me. But this crap is dumber than a vendor not sitting on both boards until they see how the new one picks up. And if you want another example of gunsnet integrity, check out the number of mfg/vendor forums they set up on their boards without anybody from those companies designated to bother to moderate them. Especially on their bustling AR15 site. And how can they claim to be better FAL experts without a Dremel forum? |
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Hmmm, maybe we can ban Campy for trying to link to gunsnet. Anybody up for a polyhedron-table discussion of this issue? |
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And how can they claim to be better FAL experts without a Dremel forum?
heheheh! yeah...the falfiles is 'unstable'?!?!?! guess that makes gunsnutz a full blown case of schizoid paranoia with a side of inferiority complex thrown in for good measure. never, ever, have i seen the moronic stoopidity of grown men so rampant as that displayed by the lunatics that run that board. no links to ar15com allowed. no links to falfiles allowed. made up ghost sponsors. no mention of bulletfest allowed. no typing "campybob" allowed. ol' joe goebels would be proud of the gang that runs that site. We try to keep the info on our websites not send it out to other websites if you get my drift. uh...yeah...sure, beauxhuntress. we get your 'drift'. 5 by 5, we get your 'drift'. you're as transparent as the glass on my s-10's windshield. |
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A more pathetic bunch of retards doesn't exist on the 'net. Only ones that even come close are DU. |
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Crapco was even given a discount on their advertising since they paid a year in advance. They canceled, so the standard monthly rate applies. They actually owe Jen money now |
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The bigger question is does HDR actually own a Harley? All the Harley folks I know spend more time on their bikes than any given internet board--even the really old ones! |
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well, i own 3 harleys ('47. '53 and '77), but i don't ride them much anymore.
i believe kenny owns a harley. i believe he did, also, take that long ride around america after returning from 'nam. the real question is...did he graduate from jr. high? another question i've never figured out the answer to is, does kenny have his nose up davey's ass or is it the other way around? does the real vet worship the lying fake seal or does the poser worship the real deal? that relationship baffles me. ho dung rant once went after a guy that dropped out of rotc, yet defends a guy that bragged and lied about being a hero seal team member. there's something very weird going on there. doc, the lack of logic and the use of emotion are a set of values that apply equally to du and thedotnutz. both are kinda harmless and amusing in a sense. |
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I agree Campy, that is a rather strange union they've got goin' on over there. In a group of folks who would like to consider themselves "politically incorrect", much seems to be quite the opposite. Hardcore Veteren + fake SEAL, truly a combo platter of novelty.
I feel cheated, all they did was block my IP. I was hoping for those cute little messages with all of my old posts..."this member has been banned by administrators". Gotta hand it to you though Campy! Your name is banned, your image is banned (that was funny as hell), even Bulletfest is banned. Fishing tackle, cigars and now I hear they're even selling books! Gotta pay for that AR forum I guess... |
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the link for those wishing to donate to the falfiles site is: www.falfiles.com/membership.php
i'm sure jen would be appreciative of any amount submitted. i gotta run over there and copy one of dthor's latest ranting emails back over here...it's a riot! (Hope you don't mind Campy, I fixed the link. MM) |
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ah...another insane email saved to cd-rom!
allow me to translate: doug jones, If you feel like you want to talk about my business on my website, then I don't think you will have a problem talking to me over the telephone. uh...no...doug has no problem with english, but you just might. Seems to me you getting involved with my busienss that's "business", your highness. has got our legal councils attention as well. oh no! the circular piece of furniture has been awakened! It was brought to my attention 10 minutes ago by 'whom'? your spies? your minions? your sychophants? what you have posted. hmmm? we are being watched by davey's version of carnivire! heheh! I would suggest we talk, ok...you go first! cause you have put yourself in a bad position oh no! he violated davey's patented...er...copyrighted emails! as you have told a story ok...how many 'stories' have you told??? that just is not true ah! this, from one that knows the 'truth' so well! and further you are putting yourself in a legal bind you might not want to push.. is that like "furthering your input"??? If you got a problem with my wbesite then you email me thru the websites email. yessir! 10-4! you da man! You want my attention you got it. so nice of you to notice! i feel soooo neglected. You airing out any of my business will get my attention, like how much you spend on hog feed? how much your daddy's boat costs? I have no problem talking to you in a civil manner. dude...you have a problem with talking, period! Now then if you got the time I will call you on my dime and we can settle this very fast. this hould be good...reeeeeal good! i hope doug records this conversation and makes an audio file to download. You email me a good number and I will call you post haste. email him a 'bad' number! Respectfully, yeah...rrrright! David Thornton Guns Network LLC Owner master of the universe |
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Campy. Your assumption that they're adults over there is the only flaw in your reasoning.While I appreciate HDR's service to our country, I don't think that not serving makes you any less of a citizen than if you did.
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Damnit Campy ... get your ass over here and help me clean this Iced Tea you just made me spew all over my screen! |
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Golly, I find that Gary's 4/27/03 Cease and Desist Demain letter was better written.
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"running a site" costs can be substantial.(don't ask me how I should know)...yes, support her....
and while I'm at it...why is my avitar a red-x? yet it shows under my "Profile"????/ anybody???????????????? |
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....could it have anything to do with your .....subperior intillect? Have you tried to resize it both by pixils, and bytes?...if you can't get it call me tonight or tomorrow pm, and we can talk even you! thru it! |
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Man, I was surprized! 8,000 or more members, but only 200 or so contributors to the falfiles. Jesus people! paypal just $1.00 and it will help Jen a lot. I'm going to paypal $5.00 a month after my inital contribution of $10.00. Jen has balls, and I respect her convictions. Plus I really hate gunsdotnutz and would love to see that site fold up and dissappear.
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I know I'm going to regret this, but here it goes. I'm new to the gunboards, but not the net, and I was wondering what caused the animosity between AR15 and Gunsnet? From what I gather some people here were kicked off that board for some reason. Did it have something to do with that guy with a gun shop in a chicken coop? Who actually runs the board here and who runs the board over there? I saw some pictures over there with some folks with MR. AK himself. Do they run the board? There is a lot of information over there and some nice guys too. There is a lot of information here and nice guys as well... I just thought I'd speak up for us newbies around here who don't know the history but like a good story when we hear one. I used to run a BBS years ago and it was my policy to always be nice to everyone. It paid off. One user decided to bomb the cars of people he didn't like. Mine was exempted. Now considering the fact that people on both boards are aficionados of things that make bang sounds and sometimes explode, I would think being civil would be the order of the day. I forgot who said it, but I read that "an armed society is a polite society." What caused that not to be the case here? Sorry, but inquiring minds wanna know.... |
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Hi Guys! :)
Are we having fun yet? ;) It's 11,784 Members and 634 are at contributor or better :) Thanks for the support guys. I didn't ask for this crap, but I sure as hell am not going to let gunznutz get their way. |
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I don't even have an FAL, and it's a ways down my list, but I'm dropping a couple bucks over there right now.
As far as canceling orders at Tapco, or not making orders, I'm sure it will go a lot further if people were to contact Tapco (phone, email, whatever) and politely inform them of their reasons for cancellation or refusal to do business with them. I, like many others, have a few things that I wanted to get from Tapco, but no longer. I'm firing off an email here right now informing them of the lost sale ($250+) and the reason for it. It might not do any good, but then again, it can't hurt... |
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Good for you! I'll be sure and try to send something your way myself if it keeps the 'would-be's' at large. I don't spend much of my web time at FALfiles but the folks I've dealt with there have been fantastic. Quite a few friends from gunznutz are missed and not entirely forgotten. They haven't seen the dollar signs that they don't get any action on. "We'll give you 'Moderator' status, well whoop-te-doo, How about a check from Cabela's? Sportsman's Guide? Bass Pro shops? the cigar yuppies? the book salesman? (what's the name of that book again? oh, nevermind, it's almost a 'sticky' in every forum) and can't go without mentioning fredsanford ? As time rolls on, expect many refugees. No, they won't be the 'banned' members, they'll be the ones who realized what they were involved with. Money is the root of most evil, if not all. In the case of Gunsnet LLC., well... When you have people begging for the resident troll to post, it's probably pretty easy. It won't be long before they add 'non-contributor' to the status of those who aren't. Might be fun to watch. |
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The lucky fellows you saw with Mr. AK himself were nothing more than a few of the members of a secret enclave of Kalashnikov worshippers. (Kalashnisnobs as Campy has coined them). A few of whom were temporarily banned from AK.net for simply being a member! I hear they sacrifice virgin receivers, drink the fluid out of Russian 1p29's, and once even chopped the head off a 5.45mm air pocket round! The hat was given to them to give to Mr. AK... |
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strangelov,
I'm new to the gunboards, but not the net, and I was wondering what caused the animosity between AR15 and Gunsnet? dthor (davey thornton) and his sidekick, mick (russell mcdonald) were hate when they were on this site (ar15com) back in the late 1990's. while they were not booted from this site, they were made fun of...repeatedly. davey used to brag about being a navy seal, about the matching pair of mp5's the government gave him in appreciation of his services and how he was going to kick the ass of anyone that disagreed with him. as you can imagine, folks made dthor/davey and his buddies into laughing stocks. then, tired of being the butt of everyone's jokes, duhthorn ran off and formed his competing gunsnutz.nutz boards...and later bought and ruined ak-47.nutz as he was planning on doing to the falfiles. any amimos is only in one direction, FROM davey. i don't know anyone, myself included, that has any hatred toward davey. however, we still enjoy laughing at his insanely moronic exploits. From what I gather some people here were kicked off that board for some reason. speaking only for myself and my twisted sense of humor...i actually schemed for over 6 months to get booted off. if you missed the great troll warz of 2000, you missed what was, without a doubt, the most hysterical time any gunboards ever expirienced. you see, after duhthorn and ho dung rant took over ak-47.nutz, several of us just gave up on the site and decided to have some fun...and oh, what fun it was! Did it have something to do with that guy with a gun shop in a chicken coop? no. not at that time. simply put, anyone who had been around the various boards for a few years already knew exactly 'what' duhtorn/beauxhuntress was. we choose to turn away from his insanity and stooopidity and continue to mock his poor exscuse for a life. Who actually runs the board here the avila family, an honorable father and his very computerwise sons. they are among the nicest folks i have had the pleasure of meeting in real life. and who runs the board over there? chris stowell, a man that has sworn never to own a firearm, is listed as an owner. rusty mcdonald, a californian and dthor, the man that lied about being a seal. the man that wrestled a live subgun away from the owner. the man that shot downrange while folks were out changing targets. the man that insulted another man' wife at a shooting event. the man that just attempted to blackmail jen into submission. I saw some pictures over there with some folks with MR. AK himself. Do they run the board? no...but one of those guys is as big a liar as dthor. only, instead of claiming to be a usn seal, he claimed to have been a russian desantnik vdv paratrooper. one guy is an ak afficionado. he posts on ak-47.nutz, this site and others. i consider him to be a friend. There is a lot of information over there yes, and some of it is mine. and some nice guys too. There is a lot of information here and nice guys as well... an old saying comes to mind, "one must choose one's company very carefully, least the stench of swine follow along with you.". I just thought I'd speak up for us newbies around here who don't know the history but like a good story when we hear one. ah! if only you could have been around in 1999 and 2000 to enjoy the show! a masterworks theatre presentation that daily lambasted dthor, ho dung rant, the gang of four, the doll plays, the trolls, counter-trolls and counter-counter-trolls! it was so much fun...if only you could have expiriened those halcyon days! I used to run a BBS years ago and it was my policy to always be nice to everyone. It paid off. One user decided to bomb the cars of people he didn't like. uh...just 'what the hell kind' of bbs did you run? not even dweebthorn is that nutz! Mine was exempted. Now considering the fact that people on both boards are aficionados of things that make bang sounds and sometimes explode, I would think being civil would be the order of the day. not gonna happen. trust me. i know people just like davey iirl. i know how they think. i now how they act. i know all about their lack of values. respect? never. I forgot who said it, but I read that "an armed society is a polite society." What caused that not to be the case here? that's a bullshit saying. europe was very well aremed in 1915 and and 1940. politeness had nothing to do with the ensueing years. i am 'polite' to those who earn it. i could give a flying fig about their guns, lawyers and money. i an condescending and sarcastic to those that merit that, also. Sorry, but inquiring minds wanna know.... no problems! i prefer the truth be out there for everyone to see. |
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At FALfiles, I'm usually long-winded.
I am stunned by the sense of community that has arisen between this board and FALfiles, which I call home. I have emailed the AR15 webmaster for a Paypal address, although money can never fully repay your friendship, for which I am grateful. Sincerely, Victor |
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I am one of the honored "BANNED" from AK47.nutz. Like several others, I was banned for comments made on ANOTHER BOARD that did not suck up enought to one of the morons residing there. HoDungRant is the moron in question. If he is the best the military can recruit, we are in deep do do! He is as much a disgrace to the Army as DuhThorn is to the human race. Oh well.....
I sent an E-mail to Buddie at TAPCO explaining my position and why I would no longer be dealing with his company. Not that he didn't have the right to spend ad dollars as he wished but rather his going over to the dark side and the way he did it. I pointed out what the boycott did to S&W and suggested he clean up his image lest the same thing transpire. Something about the odor when one swims in crap..... He DID reply, rather tersely. Time will tell where THAT part of the controversy ends up. |
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Strangelov,
Campybob gave a good overview of the goingson at GUNNUTZ, and the initial years of the feud. I came on the Gunnutz board in early 2003, and knew nothing about any feud. I was seriously considering using the services of Guccione, the fabled master AK craftsman. Only 1 troubleing question; I kept seeing posts that asked why their Ak was not being returned to them, and the posts kept dissappearing from the BBS, and then the posters themselves were dissappearing from the board(Banned) Then I bought an FAL, and signed up on the falfiles. Lo and Behold, they are talking about gunsnet. and not very nicely. Seems many if not all the posters there were banned from gunsnet for asking critical questions of guccione, like when were they getting their gun back. some had been waiting for 3 years. Many were banned for voiceing criticism of gunsnet. Gunsnet erased posts that were critical of guccione and/or gunsnet, so that the membership would never see the questions being raised. Gunsnet and guccione also contacted other gun boards and asked them to ban members for voiceing critisism of them. Many gun board's complied, to their everlasting shame. The falfiles, to my knowledge, never banned anyone on the request of guccione or gunsnet, and did allow criticism of those 2. That criticism paid off in the closing down of guccione and his scamming of hundreds of victims. I mentioned this to the gunsnet mods, and was immediately banned for a week. When I got back on, I critisied JoeKen(a business that supports gunsnet) for extremely high shipping charges, and was banned again. I was banned 2 more times, and finally banned for life, for similar offence's. The last ban was for saying something to the tune of"guccione and those who helped him are going to jail" I guess DTHOR really got some anal contractions out of that. OJF |
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Strangelove- As another sign of the class of gunsnet owners, note the Kalashnikitty t-shirts sold thru a banner on the ak47.net site. They are an unlicensed copy (not licensed by the original artist) of a cartoon kitty that an individual had been selling in small numbers for fun on this board and others. The .net owners have taken his kitty-with-gun design exactly, put it on their shirts and sell it for profit as theirs.
I think I am the only Mod here who is not banned there. I visit a few times a month because there is still some good stuff to be found there. But I have no respect for the top staff over there. |
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Strangelove,
No flames here, glad you asked though... Also Mr.Thorton is the same POS that told everyone (the day he was exposed as a fake Navy Seal) that his wife had cancer, and had to leave the boards to take care of her. WHAT A PIECE OF SHIT!, this is how he morphed from DThor to Boyhunter. That place used to be my home, but when it became over run with Hyenias I left. |
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the hyenas...i had forgotten about the hyenas!
oh, those were the days! you could calculate ho dung rant's blood pressure by hon non-sensical his posts got and dthor's by how many threats he had in his! yes, the vanished posts and members...just like stalin's soviet union. the cadre that still exists over there amazes me. never have i seen such devotion to stupidity since jim jones passed around the kool-aid. |
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CampyBob, The guy who blew up cars wasn't just on my bbs. He frequented many bbs's. When he came to mine I treated him with respect despite his weird rantings. I forgot the guy's handle but it came out in many of the national papers. As far as the "polite society" quote is concerned. It refers to individuals not nation states. It's the whole rational behind CCW.. If people carry guns crime goes down... That's why totalitarian states disarm the populace. They will stop the crime and any dissent.. Except in the U.S. Crime has increased and yet they still want to disarm us. That's a plain nonsequitur.... Anyway, thank you all for the kind replies. I know you've probably had these questions asked many times. It's hard for us newbies to really tell who you guys are talking about sometimes because you change the names around so much. I guess if I knew everyone over there and knew the history I could probably figure it out... It's too bad that we weapons enthusiasts have to have so much discord considering the effort our enemies are massing against us in the press and congress. Divided we fall you know... I guess quite a bit has happened and people are people wether they own guns or not... Thanks for the replies. It makes for interesting reading. Too bad the old threads are gone.... |
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There's a guy called "Boyhunter"? Wow, that's a giveaway isn't it? Or is that name changed too? Who's "Ho Dung" and the "Hyenas"? Sorry for the naivete.....I am new here... |
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