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Posted: 3/10/2005 7:02:40 PM EDT
I am in the market for a .223 AK. Who makes them and where can I get one? I would prefer an underfolder but any would do. I have never owned an AK and I would like to get one.
Thank you, Phessor
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 7:05:29 PM EDT
if you've never owned a AK then do yourself a favor and get 7.62X39
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 7:25:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By repub18:
if you've never owned a AK then do yourself a favor and get 7.62X39




+1
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 7:29:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/10/2005 7:32:20 PM EDT by jimtash9]
Romanians make two inexpensive versions, the SAR 3 and the WASR 3. The SAR 3 is a factory high cap but does not feature a threaded barrel or bayonet lug unless you find one already converted while the WASR 3 is just now (or soon will be) coming to the marketplace and these have the pre-ban features on them. You will need to use Weiger mags for the SAR 3 and these are readily available and I imagine that the WASR 3 will also use the same. There are other manufactures of .223 AKs and they are more expensive but that's all I know so someone else will have to fill in the blanks concerning them. I own a SAR 3 btw and am extremely pleased with it.

Link Posted: 3/10/2005 7:36:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/10/2005 7:41:03 PM EDT by Robert2011]
Arsenal Inc. (of Las Vegas) and Vepr are the best. I prefer the Arsenal version for being lighter and closer to the original.

Don't listen to the single caliber people. I started with a .308 AK, then got the .223, then got another .223, then the 7.62 and the 5.45. They are all great, but I shoot the .223 the most.

ETA: The Arsenal has a 1/7" barrel twist for heavy bullets. It's more milspec than a Bushmaster!
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 7:46:28 PM EDT
Heres one for sale in the EE right now.

.223 AK47
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 7:49:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Robert2011:
Arsenal Inc. (of Las Vegas) and Vepr are the best. I prefer the Arsenal version for being lighter and closer to the original.

Don't listen to the single caliber people. I started with a .308 AK, then got the .223, then got another .223, then the 7.62 and the 5.45. They are all great, but I shoot the .223 the most.

ETA: The Arsenal has a 1/7" barrel twist for heavy bullets. It's more milspec than a Bushmaster!




who said anything about being single caliber?

If you are going to get your first AK then you might as well get the originally designed Soviet cartridge. Then change calibers if need be.
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 8:14:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By jimtash9:
Romanians make two inexpensive versions, the SAR 3 and the WASR 3. The SAR 3 is a factory high cap but does not feature a threaded barrel or bayonet lug unless you find one already converted while the WASR 3 is just now (or soon will be) coming to the marketplace and these have the pre-ban features on them. You will need to use Weiger mags for the SAR 3 and these are readily available and I imagine that the WASR 3 will also use the same. There are other manufactures of .223 AKs and they are more expensive but that's all I know so someone else will have to fill in the blanks concerning them. I own a SAR 3 btw and am extremely pleased with it.

www.image4u.org/jimtash/2004_0727Image0003nSmalln.JPG



Jimtash9: That SAR-3 uses a Bulgarian barrel correct? I would therefore assume you used a Bulgarian 24 mm front sight base and Russian/Bulgarian 5.45 muzzle brake, correct?

Thanks!

themao
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 8:26:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/10/2005 8:29:21 PM EDT by jimtash9]
Nope, it has a Romanian 22mm front sight base on it. Both the SAR 2 and 3 use the 22mm brake.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 5:38:17 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 8:31:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RS39:
Never seen a std underfolder in 5.56, but soem side folders are easier to add.

If you find a 5.56 Romy, it's prob around $400 and still needs the pos Century fcg swapped out and has usual Romy fit/finish roll of the dice. But they run fine on $15 Weiger mags, are a light stamped rec model which easily accepts several side folder options.
The VEPR stock is not at all easy to change but is a darn fine shooter. The Arsenal SAM5S is a milled rec gun that prefers the elusive $25 Bulgy 5.56 waffle mags. Both are about $600 and are very well made.
Some like to convert a hunter style Russian Saiga in 5.56, can be pretty cheap if you do it yourself, details in the Russian forum. cdnninvestments.com download catalog listing, about $230 to start

If you must have a moving stock, the Romy and Saiga are much easier to change out.



My brother-in-law has a Norinco underfolder in .223 that I like.
I have an AR15 that I would trade for one.
Thank you, Phessor

AR15 Trade!
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 8:39:24 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 11:04:31 PM EDT
+1 for the Arsenal .223 AK.

I have one and it is great!
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 11:08:58 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 6:52:48 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 9:02:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/13/2005 9:03:35 AM EDT by Phessor]

Originally Posted By Templar:
The Norinco and Polytech 5.56mm AK's take unique magazines........which are no longer imported, so that might be something to consider.



Thank you very much for that information, thats good to know

But I am still interested in a .223 AK

AR15 for trade?
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