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Posted: 9/23/2004 2:44:53 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 2:52:46 PM EST
Did you have to install a feed ramp?

Sly
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 2:55:32 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 2:58:21 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/23/2004 3:08:40 PM EST by KenR_RedStarArms]
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 4:01:08 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 4:40:48 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 4:46:34 PM EST
So is this gonna be a service you will be able to provide?

I'm to chicken to start tearin my Saiga's apart, rather have it done right the first time


Maybe you could work in a pic of Miss RSA holding too? Nah, I can't afford THAT!
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 4:59:34 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 7:20:18 PM EST
I'm going to pick up a Saiga-12 and convert it, I just wish I could find some 8rnd mags.

Jerad
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 7:40:55 PM EST
I too am interested in converting a Saiga 12...Is it legal or does the conversion make it fall into the same category as a Street Sweeper/Stryker 12(Destructive Device as defined by the ATF)?
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 3:04:26 AM EST
another saiga 12g request, whats needed?
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 5:01:10 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 11:20:12 AM EST
Campy-
'...all this conversion requires is common sense...' Which is why someone really should do this for hire. Common sense is not common! Don't know whether it's genetics or environment, but there are bunches of people that we must keep away from tools before they hurt themselves. Not so sure they should be allowed to vote either...
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 2:48:42 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 3:38:54 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 5:58:21 PM EST
Saiga 12ga - $200

Ultimak - $100

Hakko TAC-1 $100

Folding stock - $100

Misc parts - $50

SBS Tax stamp - $200

*DROOL*
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 6:02:08 PM EST

Originally Posted By CAMPYBOB:

seriously, guys...all this conversion requires is common sense, a dremel tool and asking a few questions as you go.




Campy definitely speaks the truth. I did mine with nothing more than a Dremel tool and a drill press which made the pistol grip hole much easier to drill.

Here's one I did awhile ago:



and it does have an RSA trigger in it!

Ken - what did you use for the feedramp? A pipe section or did you order one from K-var?
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 6:12:59 PM EST

Originally Posted By Antares:
Saiga 12ga - $200

Ultimak - $100

Hakko TAC-1 $100

Folding stock - $100

Misc parts - $50

SBS Tax stamp - $200

*DROOL*



Would be nice, but the ultimak wont work on the shotties. Thier gas tube doesnt come off.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 6:15:46 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 6:25:32 PM EST

Originally Posted By KenR_RedStarArms:
K-VAR $12.00 plus it came with rivit.

Nice product "requires fitting"

Ken RSA



yeah "just a little" fitting ... I should have just cut a piece of pipe by the time I got done with it...
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 6:43:13 PM EST
So what's your US parts count on that?
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 6:48:23 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 6:50:58 PM EST
SWEET!
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 9:06:52 PM EST

Originally Posted By CFII:

Originally Posted By Antares:
Saiga 12ga - $200

Ultimak - $100

Hakko TAC-1 $100

Folding stock - $100

Misc parts - $50

SBS Tax stamp - $200

*DROOL*



Would be nice, but the ultimak wont work on the shotties. Thier gas tube doesnt come off.



They're working on it.
Link Posted: 9/25/2004 7:14:36 AM EST

Originally Posted By CFII:

Originally Posted By Antares:
Saiga 12ga - $200

Ultimak - $100

Hakko TAC-1 $100

Folding stock - $100

Misc parts - $50

SBS Tax stamp - $200

*DROOL*



Would be nice, but the ultimak wont work on the shotties. Thier gas tube doesnt come off.



Then a bit of rail and a bit of welding would do just fine. ;)
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 10:41:09 AM EST
Could I do this with a .308 Saiga? Would I have to drill a new hole for the grip screw? What about the .223 models, does the hole need to be drilled for that one? Or is it that ALL saiga models have to have the hole drilled in order to install the pistol grip?

Does anyone have that website that shows the conversion of a Saiga, by any chance?

What "fitting" is needed for the K-Var feed ramp?

Is it easy to make it accept hi-cap mags?


Thanks,
kc
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 10:59:19 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/26/2004 11:00:11 AM EST by KenR_RedStarArms]
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 12:18:14 PM EST
This most certainly can be done to the .308



And, you do not need the feed ramp in the .308, the PG hole is already there, and the factory FCG is held in by the standard AK pins only.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 12:27:46 PM EST
Nice job looks good.
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 6:45:53 AM EST
How solid is that TASCO folder?

I like the design (and the cost) but I'm leary of the plastic construction.
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 6:57:18 AM EST
for you saiga12 guys, it's the same fire control group although the recommendation is to use the single-hook trigger and not the double hook. the pistol grip and buttstock are the same as the ak. it's recommended you use a fixed stock.

the consensus seems to be there are fewer u.s. parts required for the saiga12 than for rifles due to some bizarre atf determination.

it used to be no mags over 5rds but recently there has been some hubub going around that they ARE legal for civs to own. the question is for how long once the atf sees folks converting shotguns to pistol grip and using "hi cap" mags before they arbitrarily decide these are "destructive devices" and confiscate them all?
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