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Posted: 9/1/2004 4:32:57 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 4:37:31 PM EST
Are you gonna shoot any of them before you procede with the horrible act?
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 4:46:12 PM EST
Why aren't you saving them to make into semi-autos? There have been a fair number of people in that group buy thread who asked about calibers other than 9mm. And since LEO mags don't matter soon, why not cut the reciever and then rebuild them on semi-auto? That would be cool.
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 4:55:00 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 6:11:36 PM EST
cruel
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 6:13:25 PM EST
That is just sick!

MT
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 6:17:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/1/2004 6:20:33 PM EST by repub18]

Originally Posted By TGrove:
Guys,
I know it is a shame but I will be cutting these bad boys up. They will be demilled properly receiver removed. Very rebuildable. A3 exc kits $2000, A3 good kits $1800, A2 good kits $1700 all LE mags 2 per gun. We will take the orders starting tomorrow.


They will be cut in about 2 weeks round about. Shipped soon after. These won't last too long!

Todd@ORF
www.OhioRapidFire.com




that is just messed up man
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 7:40:39 PM EST
I don't know Todd, If SOMEONE(hint, hint) would get to making a reliable receiver, I might just be interested...
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 7:56:14 PM EST
wow, what a waste
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 7:58:09 PM EST
I can't believe you would do such a horrible thing!!!

SAVE THE MP5S!
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 7:59:06 PM EST

Originally Posted By avengeusa:
wow, what a waste



I second that.
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 8:12:19 PM EST
Yeah.. now I'm bummed out, that picture of the poor things on death row just makes me choke up.

Jack
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 8:26:50 PM EST

Originally Posted By avengeusa:
wow, what a waste



They're post 86 MGs....

If anyone outside of LE is to own them again they must be chopped...

Blame the Democrats...
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 9:00:14 PM EST

Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Originally Posted By avengeusa:
wow, what a waste



They're post 86 MGs....

If anyone outside of LE is to own them again they must be chopped...

Blame the Democrats...



didn't Reagan sign that law ?
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 9:26:35 PM EST
Hey now don't you know that the Republicans are completely flawless and impeccable how dare you mention that Reagan signed that law h=85%

Originally Posted By W_smith:

Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Originally Posted By avengeusa:
wow, what a waste



They're post 86 MGs....

If anyone outside of LE is to own them again they must be chopped...

Blame the Democrats...



didn't Reagan sign that law ?

Link Posted: 9/1/2004 9:27:55 PM EST
So they can't even be re-assembled on semi-auto receivers? Maybe they could be sold as dummy guns on fake reciever blocks.
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 9:40:54 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/1/2004 9:41:36 PM EST by SchlaffTablett]
That sucks. Where did they come from?
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 4:10:50 AM EST
OHh, you are evil, i want 2, but damn, then I'd have to want ~90 days for the sbr, etc, and then for a good reciever, not to mention whoring my self out to raise that kind of money that fast
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 4:27:09 AM EST
yeah, whats the story? where did these beautiful things come from?
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 4:29:20 AM EST
Man how I would love to have one of those. So no one make a decent semi receiver to rebuild those on?
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 5:53:50 AM EST
Are those from the USBP?
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 7:40:05 AM EST

Originally Posted By Corbic:
So they can't even be re-assembled on semi-auto receivers? Maybe they could be sold as dummy guns on fake reciever blocks.



yes they can be rebuilt on semi recievers
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 9:22:27 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 1:26:42 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 6:59:42 PM EST
Every time you demil an HK, Jesus kills a kitten!

Link Posted: 9/2/2004 7:37:09 PM EST

Originally Posted By krinkfreak:
I'm going up to play with these bad boys tomorrow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pics to follow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





just rub it why dont ya
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 3:35:58 AM EST
Makes me just sick.........I want one!!
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 4:42:42 AM EST

Originally Posted By Corbic:
So they can't even be re-assembled on semi-auto receivers? Maybe they could be sold as dummy guns on fake reciever blocks.



Once a machinegun, always a machinegun. Basicall since these were built on receivers after 1986 and did not use a drop in auto sear that was registered before 86 they are LE only. You can cut the receivers according to BATFE specs and sell the rest of the gun. The rest of the parts can be reassembled on a new manufactured semi only receiver for use non LE peons.
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 4:48:18 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 5:43:37 AM EST
Demilling those many beautiful guns makes baby Jesus cry. Why not make some semi-receivers and turn one hell of a profit? I know I'd buy one!
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 6:20:44 AM EST
The idea alone of cutting them up bring tears to my eyes

Link Posted: 9/3/2004 9:57:52 AM EST
ok, where are the pics.
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 10:00:24 AM EST

Originally Posted By Jeepcreep:

Originally Posted By krinkfreak:
I'm going up to play with these bad boys tomorrow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pics to follow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




....hope your peter falls off......



Link Posted: 9/3/2004 10:43:25 AM EST
Jesus kills a kitten every time you chop up a machine gun
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 10:53:51 AM EST
***Warning, Newbie***

Why can't they be sold to LE? If they can be I know some SWAT guys that would buy. And no, they're not the anti-gun types either. They're the good, respectable, back woods, hillbilly, "Boy your in a HEAP of trouble" types.
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 11:38:04 AM EST

Originally Posted By mkgunz:
***Warning, Newbie***

Why can't they be sold to LE? If they can be I know some SWAT guys that would buy. And no, they're not the anti-gun types either. They're the good, respectable, back woods, hillbilly, "Boy your in a HEAP of trouble" types.




IIRC you can no longer do that, something about people in CA buying weapons in such a mannor for personal use under the pretence of offical police use. Now to my knowleged only the Department can purchase such things, and that is with a State A-OK!, then they weapons will be locked away in an Armoury.

Correct me if I'm wrong.
Jack
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 12:11:10 PM EST
Argh!!! That just plain sucks!
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 3:35:18 PM EST
I think I hate you now.

David
Link Posted: 9/4/2004 1:11:24 AM EST

Originally Posted By roboman:
Demilling those many beautiful guns makes baby Jesus cry.

Why not make some semi-receivers and turn one hell of a profit? I know I'd buy one!



Now that's a +1!
Link Posted: 9/4/2004 6:22:17 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 8:47:49 AM EST


Sure, there are plenty of LE who would want them. I know of some military units that would take them too - if the price was right. I have seen used LE only MP-5s trade hands in the $1200 range, $1700 to $2000 each is not just high, but insane. Consider you can get M4s starting around $650 each and Colt 9mms for not much more. The MP5 is good, but not so good that a used MP5 is worth more than twice as much as a well equipped Colt 9mm or M4 carbine.

$1700 to $2000 for a parts kit?!?!
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 9:08:56 AM EST

Originally Posted By OSI:

Sure, there are plenty of LE who would want them. I know of some military units that would take them too - if the price was right. I have seen used LE only MP-5s trade hands in the $1200 range, $1700 to $2000 each is not just high, but insane. Consider you can get M4s starting around $650 each and Colt 9mms for not much more. The MP5 is good, but not so good that a used MP5 is worth more than twice as much as a well equipped Colt 9mm or M4 carbine.

$1700 to $2000 for a parts kit?!?!




Ditto....lower your price and I'm sure you'll get more interest.

Bomber
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 10:18:24 AM EST

Originally Posted By roboman:
Demilling those many beautiful guns makes baby Jesus cry.

Why not make some semi-receivers and turn one hell of a profit? I know I'd buy one!



Same here if I could afford it. I've been wanting an MP5 in 40 to go along with my 40 AR upper. But than I found out the price to have one built and well, for an extra $1k-$1,500 I could buy a RLL for the AR. If I could get a 40 MP in the same price range as a 9mm MP I;d be all over that like stink on shit.
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 8:39:26 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/7/2004 8:51:29 PM EST by Jerad]
Nevermind I want one in 9mm, It's cheaper to feed the habbit.

Jerad
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 8:41:37 PM EST
How much for a complete rifle, semi, in 40?
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 10:40:06 AM EST
I think they are expenive because of the rarity and the fact that they would be probably the only such kits available. LE value and civilian value are rarely related when comes to SMGs.
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 12:37:16 PM EST

Originally Posted By AJjer_Bullets:
I think they are expenive because of the rarity and the fact that they would be probably the only such kits available. LE value and civilian value are rarely related when comes to SMGs.



Yup, somewhat strange to think they are worth more cut up as parts kits on the civilian market than as complete rifles resold to LE, but that's probably the reason this is being done. The complete rifles probably cost less, new, to LE than the kits are being sold for, but since H&K ain't selling complete parts kits that I'm aware of, and us peasants can't get a complete rifle, that really isn't an option. I'm sure that ORF got these for less than new prices as well, but hey, they deserve to make a buck too.

Rocko
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 1:20:47 PM EST

Originally Posted By rocko:

Originally Posted By AJjer_Bullets:
I think they are expenive because of the rarity and the fact that they would be probably the only such kits available. LE value and civilian value are rarely related when comes to SMGs.



Yup, somewhat strange to think they are worth more cut up as parts kits on the civilian market than as complete rifles resold to LE, but that's probably the reason this is being done. The complete rifles probably cost less, new, to LE than the kits are being sold for, but since H&K ain't selling complete parts kits that I'm aware of, and us peasants can't get a complete rifle, that really isn't an option. I'm sure that ORF got these for less than new prices as well, but hey, they deserve to make a buck too.

Rocko



Well put. +1

I, for one, am thrilled that ORF is doing this. At least these guns are going to good homes!


Link Posted: 9/8/2004 2:40:41 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/8/2004 2:45:07 PM EST by Andreuha]

Originally Posted By thebomber:

Originally Posted By OSI:

Sure, there are plenty of LE who would want them. I know of some military units that would take them too - if the price was right. I have seen used LE only MP-5s trade hands in the $1200 range, $1700 to $2000 each is not just high, but insane. Consider you can get M4s starting around $650 each and Colt 9mms for not much more. The MP5 is good, but not so good that a used MP5 is worth more than twice as much as a well equipped Colt 9mm or M4 carbine.

$1700 to $2000 for a parts kit?!?!




Ditto....lower your price and I'm sure you'll get more interest.

Bomber



IIRC, new LE MP5A2/9s run around $900/unit (for departments).
Sorry, but those prices really are just too high for me to even consider it- especially for used parts.

Oh well, that's the artificially/dealer-inflated realm of gun pricing for ya!
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 4:08:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/8/2004 4:09:44 PM EST by ipsilateral_7]

Originally Posted By Andreuha:

Originally Posted By thebomber:

Originally Posted By OSI:

Sure, there are plenty of LE who would want them. I know of some military units that would take them too - if the price was right. I have seen used LE only MP-5s trade hands in the $1200 range, $1700 to $2000 each is not just high, but insane. Consider you can get M4s starting around $650 each and Colt 9mms for not much more. The MP5 is good, but not so good that a used MP5 is worth more than twice as much as a well equipped Colt 9mm or M4 carbine.

$1700 to $2000 for a parts kit?!?!




Ditto....lower your price and I'm sure you'll get more interest.

Bomber



IIRC, new LE MP5A2/9s run around $900/unit (for departments).
Sorry, but those prices really are just too high for me to even consider it- especially for used parts.

Oh well, that's the artificially/consumer-inflated realm of gun pricing for ya!



Fixed it for ya, what you guys don't understand is that besides the fact the the 40S&W is hard to find is that kit's like this are hard to find period, and since and HK94 is going for $4000 right now, this is a pretty damn good price, hell if i had the money i'd buy not just 1 but 2. What they sell for new is basically worthless information too since we civies can't buy them new, hence the inflation cost because of the rarity of these kits



Link Posted: 9/8/2004 7:30:25 PM EST
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