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Posted: 2/21/2007 3:29:49 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/21/2007 3:31:45 PM EST by WolfFox]
Should I purchase a couple of barrels for my AK's? One has a chrome lined the Yugo m70 does not, but has a new barrel, I have over 20,000 rounds ( this is just some of it). Will I need to replace the barrels before I run through this ammo?




Link Posted: 2/21/2007 3:36:44 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/21/2007 3:37:20 PM EST by CJFirefly]
You should be fine, just don't bump fire like crazy. You should get some Golden Tiger to round out the stash.
Link Posted: 2/21/2007 3:37:20 PM EST
you should cut your losses and send it all to me
Link Posted: 2/21/2007 3:43:39 PM EST
Do the words "Ammo Whore" mean anything to you?

Semper Fi
Link Posted: 2/21/2007 3:51:20 PM EST

Originally Posted By CJFirefly:
You should be fine, just don't bump fire like crazy. You should get some Golden Tiger to round out the stash.


That's what I have in the ammo cans. I bought it from AIM back when it was like $90 something/1000
Link Posted: 2/21/2007 4:49:40 PM EST
What are you kidding? No.
Link Posted: 2/21/2007 4:55:52 PM EST
show off
Link Posted: 2/21/2007 4:56:29 PM EST
Will they still "work" after 10,000 rounds each? Most likely.

Would I replace my barrels after (or before) 10,000 rounds each? Yes.

A new barrel is less tan $100. Why not have a couple?
Link Posted: 2/21/2007 5:30:48 PM EST
Just buy another AK.



I'll help your fund along by buying a case of that FMJ Wolf.

Link Posted: 2/21/2007 6:32:13 PM EST

Originally Posted By greentimber:
Will they still "work" after 10,000 rounds each? Most likely.

Would I replace my barrels after (or before) 10,000 rounds each? Yes.

A new barrel is less tan $100. Why not have a couple?



I thought AKM's were rated for a life of 50-70K rounds.

That ammo aint gonna do ya much good in a cardboard box.
Link Posted: 2/21/2007 8:52:52 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/21/2007 8:55:38 PM EST by Crowcreek]
I read somewhere that 1k of ammo will wear about .001" of barrel.

You have about .008" of rifling -- So plan accordingly.


{edit -- I think they were talking about throat, in an un-chromed bbl.}
Link Posted: 2/22/2007 1:13:09 AM EST
Just for the record...I hate you.

Those pictures are like my wet dream. Damn but I have to find a way to get more money. On my budget I agonize over accessories.

Never visited Florida. Do you happen to go away leaving that area unlocked? And if so can I have directions to your house?

Seriously though this may sound strange but I think I would tack an American flag or patriotic sticker somewhere around your stash. The way things are today if some wingnut saw that they might think, "Jihadis!" Props to you for a good solid collection of necessaries.

Cheers,
RWB64

But again I did mention I hate you, right?
Link Posted: 2/22/2007 2:47:02 AM EST
Yes they will wear out. You should replace them after every 1k of rounds put down the barrel.
Link Posted: 2/22/2007 2:50:14 AM EST

Originally Posted By RWB64:
Just for the record...I hate you.

Those pictures are like my wet dream. Damn but I have to find a way to get more money. On my budget I agonize over accessories.

Never visited Florida. Do you happen to go away leaving that area unlocked? And if so can I have directions to your house?

Seriously though this may sound strange but I think I would tack an American flag or patriotic sticker somewhere around your stash. The way things are today if some wingnut saw that they might think, "Jihadis!" Props to you for a good solid collection of necessaries.

Cheers,
RWB64

But again I did mention I hate you, right?


Directions: Lets see, you are in PA. Ok head south west about 1045.6. Next... take a left and travel another 27.4 miles. Get off on the first exit and go about 9 miles until it dead ends. Take a right go another 6 mile hang a left at the store go to the first road to your left, take a left there. I am the thrid house on the left. I leave the house unlocked.
Link Posted: 2/22/2007 2:54:34 AM EST

Originally Posted By greentimber:
Will they still "work" after 10,000 rounds each? Most likely.

Would I replace my barrels after (or before) 10,000 rounds each? Yes.

A new barrel is less tan $100. Why not have a couple?


So... after 10K they should be replace? Where is a good place to purchase barrels? Thanks!
Link Posted: 2/22/2007 2:58:46 AM EST
That is a strong work bench!!!!!! (looks heavy)
Link Posted: 2/22/2007 3:51:17 AM EST

Originally Posted By ILAK:
That is a strong work bench!!!!!! (looks heavy)


It’s a reloading bench made from one of these kits. Some of the best $53.97 I've spent (not including the wood). It is rock solid.

www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=207081

Yea, I know everyone hates SG (except me).
Link Posted: 2/22/2007 6:02:47 AM EST
I've got 12k + rds thru a Polytech that I bought almost 20 years ago.

Shoots the same as it ever did.
Link Posted: 2/22/2007 6:22:16 AM EST
There is a guy over on glocktalk that is claiming 33K rounds through a MAADI purchased new in 1999. Says he has never cleaned or lubed it, and hasn't noticed an accuracy change.
Link Posted: 2/22/2007 7:35:53 AM EST
I don't guess I will worry about it then. If it shoot two hundred a month this will last me 9 years. By the time I go through all this, I will probably be to old and blind to know the difference anyway.
Link Posted: 2/22/2007 1:41:30 PM EST
Link Posted: 2/22/2007 3:51:00 PM EST
If you're worried about outshooting your AK, get a few replacement parts kits and receivers, cover them in Cosmo, and bury them someplace to satisfy your hoarding instinct.

There's a yugo AK that was in service over there that had somewhere around 80k before it died completely.

Link Posted: 2/22/2007 4:02:13 PM EST
well since you are also in Pa.---head over my way and I will save you some barrel life. Maybe I would replace the bbl. on one of them after I shot 10K rounds.....depends how you shoot-----buy an extra parts kit or bbl...but they should last a loooong time. I have a feeling if the SHTF and you were burning through that kind of ammo accuracy wouldn't be your primary concern
Link Posted: 2/22/2007 7:47:10 PM EST
Me too.

Link Posted: 2/22/2007 11:31:47 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/22/2007 11:33:49 PM EST by JA545]
In 1990 I bought my first MAK-90 and it would shoot 4" groups at 100 yards with Chinese surplus ammo. In 1996 I stopped counting how many rounds had been fired in that rifle at 8500. Since then I have fired several thousand more rounds throught it. Mostly bump fired out of 75 and 100rd drums and the last time checked accuracy in 2000 it wouold still shoot 4" groups at 100 yards with Chinese surplus ammo.
So I wouldn't even worry about changing barrels just buy a cheap Romanian AK rifle to take some of the pressure off your other rifles if you are worried about wearing barrels out.

Wollfox,
I have a question about the Wolf ammo. I notice in the pic that there are 3 different styles of printing on the cases of ammo.
Are they different types of Wolf ammo or were they produced in different years?
Did you buy the ammo over time or all at one time?

BrianLake,
Same questions?
Link Posted: 2/23/2007 2:37:21 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/23/2007 2:39:58 AM EST by WolfFox]

Originally Posted By JA545:
In 1990 I bought my first MAK-90 and it would shoot 4" groups at 100 yards with Chinese surplus ammo. In 1996 I stopped counting how many rounds had been fired in that rifle at 8500. Since then I have fired several thousand more rounds throught it. Mostly bump fired out of 75 and 100rd drums and the last time checked accuracy in 2000 it wouold still shoot 4" groups at 100 yards with Chinese surplus ammo.
So I wouldn't even worry about changing barrels just buy a cheap Romanian AK rifle to take some of the pressure off your other rifles if you are worried about wearing barrels out.

Wollfox,
I have a question about the Wolf ammo. I notice in the pic that there are 3 different styles of printing on the cases of ammo.
Are they different types of Wolf ammo or were they produced in different years?
Did you buy the ammo over time or all at one time?

BrianLake,
Same questions?


Brian,

I've purchased this ammo over the last 4 years. The most recent are the four at the bottom left. I still had one more box coming in which came in yesterday. I wish I had purchased it all four years ago. I could have saved some bucks. I think ammo prices are about as low as they are ever going to be. Have nothing to judge that on other then once they get the price up and people are still purchasing it, it's not coming down much if any. I have probably purchased my last round of 7.62x39 (unless it comes down a bunch). The way I shoot this will last me 9 yrs easy. I get to go out and shoot once a month and usually shoot 200 rnds of each .223, 7.62x39 and 22. Not including handguns. I'd hate to me the person just getting into shooting with the ammo prices the way they are. I have an equall amount of .223 and I reload, so I'm OK on my AR's.
Link Posted: 2/23/2007 9:50:35 AM EST
Now all you need is food and water for a year and you can come join us in the survival forum.
Link Posted: 2/23/2007 10:52:09 AM EST
Can you replace the barrel without taking the trunnion out of the receiver?
Link Posted: 2/23/2007 12:07:49 PM EST
Brian. Dude! I see you're all set for any emergency - plenty of cat food and water to wash it down with!
Link Posted: 2/23/2007 2:45:10 PM EST
Are the cases with just WOLF on them the oldest followed by the Wolf with the black background,and the newest being the Wolf with the red background?
Link Posted: 2/23/2007 2:56:08 PM EST
Yes. All you have to do is remove the barrel pin and push the barrel out.


Originally Posted By Eagle106:
Can you replace the barrel without taking the trunnion out of the receiver?
Link Posted: 2/23/2007 3:17:27 PM EST
f

Originally Posted By USMC2111:
Do the words "Ammo Whore Sensual provider" mean anything to you?

Semper Fi


fixed it, based on a current poll going on...
Link Posted: 2/23/2007 7:25:08 PM EST

Originally Posted By JA545:
Are the cases with just WOLF on them the oldest followed by the Wolf with the black background,and the newest being the Wolf with the red background?


The five on the left are the newest. The ones in the midddle are 6-48 months. The ones on the right are 6-48 months.
Link Posted: 2/23/2007 10:45:36 PM EST
I bet you have magazines to load all that ammo huh!! THAT would make me ever MORE jealous than i already am
Link Posted: 2/23/2007 10:47:05 PM EST

Originally Posted By tnieto2004:
I bet you have magazines to load all that ammo huh!! THAT would make me ever MORE jealous than i already am


He would have to have upwards of 700 mags, that would surely qualify him as a mag whore.
Link Posted: 2/23/2007 11:06:47 PM EST
Thanks for the info apparently Wolf didn't follow the pattern I exspected of simple one color printing being the earlist produced,followed by adding graphics(wolf pic),and then adding color as the latest produced cases of Wolf ammo.
Link Posted: 2/24/2007 4:51:52 AM EST
Ammo stash pictures are so sexy. Can you guys post more?
Link Posted: 2/24/2007 11:25:44 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/24/2007 11:30:45 AM EST by WolfFox]

Originally Posted By CJFirefly:

Originally Posted By tnieto2004:
I bet you have magazines to load all that ammo huh!! THAT would make me ever MORE jealous than i already am


He would have to have upwards of 700 mags, that would surely qualify him as a mag whore.


I only have one 5 rnd mag, about 40 30 rnd mags, two chinese 75 mags and one Romanian 75 rnd mag.
Link Posted: 2/24/2007 11:30:15 AM EST

Originally Posted By drobs:
Now all you need is food and water for a year and you can come join us in the survival forum.


Maybe, I'll get there one day. I only have enough food for 5 months. I do however have a well and a generator to pump enough water that my 100 gals of fuel will pump. Not sure how much water that is? Maybe I could sell water on the roadside for food?
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 1:09:59 AM EST

Originally Posted By ILAK:
That is a strong work bench!!!!!! (looks heavy)


+1
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 8:31:03 AM EST
Ak barrels are hammer forged, which is much stronger than standard 4150 chrome lined. Plus 7.62 is not a barrel burner. You'll get about 35K rounds through each barrel before needing replacement.

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