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Posted: 3/26/2006 10:20:36 AM EDT
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JC,
The only reason I don't like useing the barrel to rivet on is, I can't visually inspect the the rivets to see if they set good. I always used a piece of bar stock slightly smaller than the barrel journal, like your reamer shank. The 3/4" micro flap wheels from MSC work great for grinding them down  I do have a bolt cutter rivet tool, if you want to use that. Let me know on the tool and we'll hook up.Mike |
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Posted: 3/26/2006 1:36:00 PM EDT
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Mike, thanks for the offer. I might take you up on that, if only to see exactly how to fashion my bolt cutters into a proper set of rivet squeezers. I'll PM you tomorrow or Tuesday.
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Posted: 3/26/2006 5:19:52 PM EDT
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I've heard of several people doing it that way... I'm going to try it on my build. Will let you know how it goes.
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Posted: 3/27/2006 10:35:47 AM EDT
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AGI uses that method on their build video. So being that they instruct that method I would hope they did some testing to determine it was a viable method. They put the trunion in and use a bucking bar to crush one rivet and then press the barrel in. After that they take the remaining rivets and slot the end with a dremel to promote it's spreading out against the barrel. They then use a punch tool they made with a rivet shaped concave front portion to drive the rivets in place. Personally I would go with the Plinker method or use some modified bolt cutters.
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Posted: 3/27/2006 10:56:24 AM EDT
[#5]
"Plinker method?"
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Posted: 3/27/2006 1:14:39 PM EDT
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i think he means using a plinker's rivet jig
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Posted: 3/27/2006 4:00:22 PM EDT
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i just demilled one of my early builds where i used the barrel as a bucking bar. i will never do it again. the squish did not look proper. it's just not he same.
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Posted: 3/28/2006 5:30:08 AM EDT
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Did not look proper, or was not holding the rivet in place? As long as they aren't coming out I dont care what they look like where they will never be seen. Did they look like they would stay in?
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Posted: 3/28/2006 12:34:19 PM EDT
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I just finished a Romy G that way it looks great! used a Pexto Rivet set, but heck you could make your own. |
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Posted: 3/28/2006 12:46:47 PM EDT
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I have done all of my rivet builds that way and have never had a problem.
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Posted: 3/29/2006 5:58:33 PM EDT
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I just tried to drill out the rivets with barrel in place and had some problems:
1) Can't tell when I'm through the rivet and into the barrel. I think I actually drilled into the barrel a little bit in one hole judging by the depth. Argh!! I am pissed. I used a hand drill and could feel no difference in resistance. 2) How in the world do you clear out the rivet when you drill into it? Do you just leave it there and hammer the new one in? Where can it possibly expand to?? |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 6:14:44 PM EDT
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Yet another reason to pull the barrel. |
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Posted: 3/30/2006 3:40:55 AM EDT
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Yep.. but I'm waiting to hear the reply from these non-pullers. Lets hear it guys. I drilled and drilled and never hit a gap... I think i went right into the barrel but I can't tell. The walls of the hole is continuous and there is no difference in metal color, etc. The depth is what makes me think I hit barrel.
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Posted: 3/31/2006 9:40:09 AM EDT
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A piece of colored tape wrapped around the drill bit at the appropriate depth will act as a guide. Drill until the edge of the tape contacts the outer surface of the trunion and STOP.
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Posted: 3/31/2006 11:16:14 AM EDT
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Then what? You have a hole and no space for a rivet to mushroom out to when you press it in.
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Posted: 3/31/2006 4:39:25 PM EDT
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Drilling the rivet is just the first step in removing the rivet completely. I think most are drilling the center out, then knocking the remains out afterwards. |
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Posted: 3/31/2006 5:06:14 PM EDT
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Right, but how? It's in the trunion.
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Posted: 4/1/2006 3:47:49 AM EDT
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Drill the rivet out completely, use a small ball mill attached to your Dremel open up the base of the hole a bit, this will allow the rivet to swell and it WILL not come out. This Tip from Chris, it worked great! |
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Posted: 4/1/2006 7:50:35 AM EDT
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Seems like it would work fine, but wouldn't a softer rivet work better?? Any one know how to soften up a rivet, heat it or what?????????????
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