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Posted: 3/8/2006 9:14:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/8/2006 9:28:41 PM EDT by Ligament]
Hi all,

For 5.56/.223 AKs, Which is a better flash hider, the bulgy or the vortex? I understand one can mount a bayonet on the bulgy but am not concerned about this feature.

Bulgy:


Vortex:


thanks
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 9:17:09 PM EDT
The Vortex will work better. The Bulgarian one is basically an A2 with longer slots.

7.62x39 doesn't produce all that much flash anyway out of a 16" barrel.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 9:37:26 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 11:50:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By VinnieBoomBah:
Flash Suppressor Testing



Great link! Unfortunately with my old eyes, I can't read anything on the page. What are the results?

Ligament,

What type of weapon is the FH going on? If it's an Arsenal, I'd opt for the Bulgarian. However, I've always read literature that suggests the Vortex and Phantom flash suppressors are tops in virtually eliminating flash signature.

Bud
Link Posted: 3/9/2006 12:17:19 AM EDT

Originally Posted By STG77:
The Vortex will work better. The Bulgarian one is basically an A2 with longer slots.

7.62x39 doesn't produce all that much flash anyway out of a 16" barrel.



It depends heavily on which ammo is fired, lots of 7.62x39 out there that will produce an impressive fireball.

I would like to see someone test that Bulgarian hider with commonly available ammo.

Link Posted: 3/9/2006 12:19:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NH_AR_Shooter:

Originally Posted By STG77:
The Vortex will work better. The Bulgarian one is basically an A2 with longer slots.

7.62x39 doesn't produce all that much flash anyway out of a 16" barrel.



It depends heavily on which ammo is fired, lots of 7.62x39 out there that will produce an impressive fireball.




I guess the flash hider on my Valmet 62 worked pretty well then. I haven't fired a regular slant braked AK in years.
Link Posted: 3/9/2006 1:30:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By STG77:

Originally Posted By NH_AR_Shooter:

Originally Posted By STG77:
The Vortex will work better. The Bulgarian one is basically an A2 with longer slots.

7.62x39 doesn't produce all that much flash anyway out of a 16" barrel.



It depends heavily on which ammo is fired, lots of 7.62x39 out there that will produce an impressive fireball.




I guess the flash hider on my Valmet 62 worked pretty well then. I haven't fired a regular slant braked AK in years.



Maybe you had/have decent ammo too, lots of dirty burning crap out there, surplus, wolf, ect,...I've gotten some pretty cool fireballs out of my 20" sks.

Shooting at night is fun.
Link Posted: 3/9/2006 1:34:18 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NH_AR_Shooter:

Maybe you had/have decent ammo too, lots of dirty burning crap out there, surplus, wolf, ect,...I've gotten some pretty cool fireballs out of my 20" sks.

Shooting at night is fun.



bump fire a PSL with the old surplus ammo out of a green tin can around dusk i think the only thing more impressive is the flash out of the original 1921 tommy guns
Link Posted: 3/9/2006 1:46:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/9/2006 1:47:01 AM EDT by NH_AR_Shooter]

Originally Posted By cruzie27:

Originally Posted By NH_AR_Shooter:

Maybe you had/have decent ammo too, lots of dirty burning crap out there, surplus, wolf, ect,...I've gotten some pretty cool fireballs out of my 20" sks.

Shooting at night is fun.



bump fire a PSL with the old surplus ammo out of a green tin can around dusk i think the only thing more impressive is the flash out of the original 1921 tommy guns



You know.....I may need to give my cousin a ring.......




Link Posted: 3/9/2006 5:47:42 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/9/2006 8:13:15 AM EDT
You also need to take into account that the Bulgarian flash hider has an exit hole for a 7.62 projectile which probably limits its flash hiding abilities on a 5.56 round.
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 8:07:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/14/2006 8:23:17 PM EDT by mach6]
There is no question that the Vortex is vastly superior to the Bulgarian Birdcage or for that matter anything else. Testing by ARDEC and APG have proved this time and time again, as has the US Navy. Canada has reached the same conclusions and that's why the Vortex is standardized on the C-8. Also, keep in mind these flash suppressors are designed specifically to accept the SEI "DC" line of sound suppressors.

My SAM-5S with Vortex

Link Posted: 3/14/2006 8:20:15 PM EDT
I like the look of the Bulgarian flashhider
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