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Posted: 10/3/2004 4:53:37 AM EDT
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Ultimak, underfolder, EOTechs...
What else? |
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Posted: 10/3/2004 5:06:31 AM EDT
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they look like tabuk copies of the yugoslaviam m92, going by the rivet pattern.
this one appears to be a romanian aks74 and it wears the same handguard has my new romamian akt98 .22 training rifle! this is the first confirmed pic i have seen of this forearm configuration in a mil-issue akm. note that it is different in the ribbing pattern from the russian/bulgarian forearm. 
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Posted: 10/3/2004 7:50:52 AM EDT
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Campy thats just a TDI arms railed lower handguard, same as the one on my SAR-1. 
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Posted: 10/3/2004 11:34:08 AM EDT
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Taipan, what kind of folder is that on your rifle?
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Posted: 10/3/2004 12:46:11 PM EDT
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Thats not a folder, its just an ACE ARFX Skeleton stock. |
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Posted: 10/3/2004 12:57:08 PM EDT
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....ribbed for her pleasure....Polish mag? in the above pic? BTW... my .02 sez Chinese gunz.... slant cut rear receiver....full hood front sight..besides I know fursure the SEALs are using Chinese guns over there, both milled and stamped receivers! |
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Posted: 10/3/2004 1:55:14 PM EDT
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What kind of muzzle breaks and flash lights are those? The more I see these under folders the more I want one...or ..um... two....
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Posted: 10/3/2004 2:11:03 PM EDT
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Yeah, he's got the TDI handguard and a Blackjack SWIFT safety. The front sight in the pic doesn't appear to be hooded. I also wonder if that's not a 7.62x39 rifle? Maybe he has Polish magazine in it. I thought 5.45 isn't common over there so it would make more sense.
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Posted: 10/3/2004 2:18:51 PM EDT
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Fairly sure that's a 7.62, the curvature to the mag looks too steep or whatever for 5.45.
Pretty interesting these guys have customized their AKs with US commercially available stuff, that's cool... I get why the tanker guy has an AK, probably not issued a rifle. But what are the other two guys, contractors or some personal security for a high ranking iraqi or what? They have some combo frontsight/gas block unit don't they, with full length hardguards. Pretty sweet looking to me. Sure makes for alot of closerange firepower it would seem like to me. Wish my darn AKs could have "da switch".... |
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Posted: 10/3/2004 2:28:41 PM EDT
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I want to find out what armor unit in the US military allows goatees and blue tee shirts. I wuold bet he is either a contractor or SF. Contractors are free to choose thier weapons, and so are SF types to a limmited extent, CIA types do whatever they please. ETA: I think the guys in the posted links are toting Krinks, which I don't think are all that common in the wild in Iraq, I am sure there are some on teh loose, but you sure don't see many pictures of them. Also notice the finish on the pictures of these AKs and remeber it the next time folks start talking baout how shitty the Romanian rifles are becuase of thier mediocre finsih, it doesn't seem to bother these guys, of course they don't have to endure the rigours of the indoor ranges often encountered by Keyboard commandos. |
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Posted: 10/3/2004 2:31:25 PM EDT
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I may be mistaken, but isn't that a hummer?
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Posted: 10/3/2004 2:35:35 PM EDT
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Yeah I didn't really look at the guy, guess that is a contractor or something as well. And maybe ya'll are right, just a humvee...
They have the full length handguards/gastubes unless I'm looking at it wrong, and clearly the standard AK rear sight, so they wouldn't be Krinks. |
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Posted: 10/3/2004 2:44:41 PM EDT
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Likely to be an Iraqi home grown version. When you get to looking at AKs in battle field pics, you will see all kinds of weird stuff that is hard to identify. Parts get swapped around between rifles, field expedient repairs and upgrades get made often with whatever combinations of parts that are available in a real quick hurry locally. The contractors over there have access to lots of AK parts from all over the world, and Iraqi Ak smiths who have years of experience at grafting AK parts together to make specialized weapons.
This type of customizing on M16s just isn't needed for the military, they already have parts in inventory that are standardized to make any configuration that they need. Plus the military guys generally don't have to depend on local procurement quite as much. For the contractors they will surely often be willing to use what they can get on the spot or with very short notice than have to wait a week or two to have shipped in from the US or Germany. |
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Posted: 10/3/2004 3:44:06 PM EDT
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What parts would someone need to recreate a rifle like these? I think it would be fun to build.
1. Some kind of under folder rifle. www.atlanticfirearms.com AK V-47 $540 2. UltiMAK gas tube mount. $100 3. EOTech HWS $300 4. Unknown Sling $20 5. Unknown handguards 6. Unknown Flashlight and Flashlight Mount. Any ideas? |
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Posted: 10/3/2004 4:18:42 PM EDT
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jeep, do the chinese manufacture a copy of the yugo type 92?
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Posted: 10/3/2004 5:22:01 PM EDT
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DK....but 2 things I do know for 100% sure......
1.Pakistan will copy anything out there 2.Our SpecOps soldiers are using Chinese AKs that were heavily modified here(in the US), sterilized, and then forwarded for their use! |
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Posted: 10/3/2004 5:58:13 PM EDT
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That is not an underfolder - that is a wire sidefolder. The underfolders have a big round button on the rear sides and 2 rails going back to the butt.
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Posted: 10/3/2004 5:59:42 PM EDT
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...sorry Storm....this is the pic we are debating!
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Posted: 10/4/2004 9:04:01 AM EDT
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The sidefolder could be E. German. The folder looks like it has a thumb-lever instead of a push button. I've seen a lot of pictures of E. German AKM's in coalition hands.
The two underfolders sure look like those shorty tabuks people have posted pictures of here.. Here's a pic of one of the shorty tabuks, a pic of the gold plated one was the only one I could find:  |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 9:12:18 AM EDT
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Tabuks? Sure that isn't the long lost Tupac Shakur model of AK? |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 10:04:04 AM EDT
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Yes, it appears as MPi-K has said, but from what I can tell they appear to have slant cut rear receicvers, and no buldge on the frount trunion. I was going to have my art department enhance it....but they were too busy working on work related stuff...ha...imagine that!
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Posted: 10/4/2004 11:11:26 AM EDT
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I've seen pictures of Tabuks; long & short versions with both the Yugo-style RPK type receiver and the regular AKM-style type receiver.
I wonder if they made their own receivers or imported them.... There seem to be so many Tabuk versions showing up The closest shorty Zastava 7.62x39mm I've been able to find has the normal AKM receiver with a different front end.  I've also seen that shorty Tabuk gasblock/front sight on a 5.56mm Zastava-made AK, the muzzle brake seems to be some kind of Iraq custom design though. I like the way the Iraq design has the vent holes in the gas tube, lol. |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 11:44:28 AM EDT
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This is the first time I have heard of a Zastava AK. I knew someone would be able to shed some light on these rifles. I guess these rifles could be recreated in a legal fashion here in the US, but maybe wouldn't be as cool. Maybe if you put an underfolder on a AMD-65 upper with a long flash hider sold by joeken. Can you buy underfolder trunnions and stocks seperate?
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Posted: 10/4/2004 11:57:46 AM EDT
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You can visit the Zastava military Website here:
www.zastava-arms.co.yu/english/vojni.htm For civilian sales: www.zastava-arms.co.yu/english/civilni.htm I like the M76 listed in the "civilian" sales website... I wonder when we will find them for sale here in the U.S.? lol |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 12:31:37 PM EDT
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Can you replace the handguards on an AMD-65 kit to make them look like the reddish wood that these weapons have? If so then you could make a similar weapon system to the picture. You would just have to get an underfolder receiver from OOW and a trunnion/stock set from global trades. Then an Ultimak tube with EOTech. Then a flash hider that was long enough to meet the required 16". Hmm...
Is that all possible? Might be worth a try... |
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Posted: 10/5/2004 1:41:55 AM EDT
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Looks like they have really nice Russian wood furniture on these. I love the look of the Russian furniture because it has that cool red color.
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