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11/22/2017 10:05:29 PM
Posted: 10/3/2004 3:52:22 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2004 11:59:56 AM EST by AR-Poor]
What kind of bling do they have on them? Who are these guys? I thought this picture looked cool. Just a fun quiz.
ultimak.com/pic21.htm
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 3:53:37 AM EST
Ultimak, underfolder, EOTechs...

What else?
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 4:06:31 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 6:50:52 AM EST

Originally Posted By CAMPYBOB:
they look like tabuk copies of the yugoslaviam m92, going by the rivet pattern.

this one appears to be a romanian aks74 and it wears the same handguard has my new romamian akt98 .22 training rifle! this is the first confirmed pic i have seen of this forearm configuration in a mil-issue akm. note that it is different in the ribbing pattern from the russian/bulgarian forearm.

ultimak.com/gallery/UltiMAKOverseas.jpg



Campy thats just a TDI arms railed lower handguard, same as the one on my SAR-1.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 10:34:08 AM EST
Taipan, what kind of folder is that on your rifle?
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 11:46:11 AM EST

Originally Posted By twistedcomrade:
Taipan, what kind of folder is that on your rifle?



Thats not a folder, its just an ACE ARFX Skeleton stock.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 11:57:08 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2004 12:04:44 PM EST by Jeepcreep]
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 12:55:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2004 12:55:31 PM EST by AR-Poor]
What kind of muzzle breaks and flash lights are those? The more I see these under folders the more I want one...or ..um... two....
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 1:11:03 PM EST
Yeah, he's got the TDI handguard and a Blackjack SWIFT safety. The front sight in the pic doesn't appear to be hooded. I also wonder if that's not a 7.62x39 rifle? Maybe he has Polish magazine in it. I thought 5.45 isn't common over there so it would make more sense.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 1:18:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2004 1:23:57 PM EST by AR-15Fan]
Fairly sure that's a 7.62, the curvature to the mag looks too steep or whatever for 5.45.

Pretty interesting these guys have customized their AKs with US commercially available stuff, that's cool...

I get why the tanker guy has an AK, probably not issued a rifle. But what are the other two guys, contractors or some personal security for a high ranking iraqi or what? They have some combo frontsight/gas block unit don't they, with full length hardguards. Pretty sweet looking to me. Sure makes for alot of closerange firepower it would seem like to me. Wish my darn AKs could have "da switch"....
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 1:28:41 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2004 1:33:08 PM EST by Lightning_P38]
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 1:31:25 PM EST
I may be mistaken, but isn't that a hummer?
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 1:35:35 PM EST
Yeah I didn't really look at the guy, guess that is a contractor or something as well. And maybe ya'll are right, just a humvee...


ETA: I think the guys in the posted links are toting Krinks, which I don't think are all that common in the wild in Iraq, I am sure there are some on teh loose, but you sure don't see many pictures of them.


They have the full length handguards/gastubes unless I'm looking at it wrong, and clearly the standard AK rear sight, so they wouldn't be Krinks.

Link Posted: 10/3/2004 1:44:41 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 2:44:06 PM EST
What parts would someone need to recreate a rifle like these? I think it would be fun to build.

1. Some kind of under folder rifle. www.atlanticfirearms.com AK V-47 $540
2. UltiMAK gas tube mount. $100
3. EOTech HWS $300
4. Unknown Sling $20
5. Unknown handguards
6. Unknown Flashlight and Flashlight Mount.


Any ideas?
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 3:18:42 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 4:22:01 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 4:58:13 PM EST
That is not an underfolder - that is a wire sidefolder. The underfolders have a big round button on the rear sides and 2 rails going back to the butt.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 4:59:42 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 8:04:01 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/4/2004 8:05:26 AM EST by MPi-K]
The sidefolder could be E. German. The folder looks like it has a thumb-lever instead of a push button. I've seen a lot of pictures of E. German AKM's in coalition hands.

The two underfolders sure look like those shorty tabuks people have posted pictures of here..

Here's a pic of one of the shorty tabuks, a pic of the gold plated one was the only one I could find:

Link Posted: 10/4/2004 8:12:18 AM EST

Originally Posted By MPi-K:
The sidefolder could be E. German. The folder looks like it has a thumb-lever instead of a push button. I've seen a lot of pictures of E. German AKM's in coalition hands.

The two underfolders sure look like those shorty tabuks people have posted pictures of here..

Here's a pic of one of the shorty tabuks, a pic of the gold plated one was the only one I could find:
www.gun-world.net/russain/kalashnikov/foreign/iraq/gtb2.jpg



Tabuks? Sure that isn't the long lost Tupac Shakur model of AK?
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 9:04:04 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 10:11:26 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/4/2004 10:14:13 AM EST by MPi-K]
I've seen pictures of Tabuks; long & short versions with both the Yugo-style RPK type receiver and the regular AKM-style type receiver.

I wonder if they made their own receivers or imported them.... There seem to be so many Tabuk versions showing up

The closest shorty Zastava 7.62x39mm I've been able to find has the normal AKM receiver with a different front end.


I've also seen that shorty Tabuk gasblock/front sight on a 5.56mm Zastava-made AK, the muzzle brake seems to be some kind of Iraq custom design though. I like the way the Iraq design has the vent holes in the gas tube, lol.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 10:44:28 AM EST
This is the first time I have heard of a Zastava AK. I knew someone would be able to shed some light on these rifles. I guess these rifles could be recreated in a legal fashion here in the US, but maybe wouldn't be as cool. Maybe if you put an underfolder on a AMD-65 upper with a long flash hider sold by joeken. Can you buy underfolder trunnions and stocks seperate?
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 10:57:46 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/4/2004 11:02:46 AM EST by MPi-K]
You can visit the Zastava military Website here:
www.zastava-arms.co.yu/english/vojni.htm

For civilian sales:
www.zastava-arms.co.yu/english/civilni.htm

I like the M76 listed in the "civilian" sales website... I wonder when we will find them for sale here in the U.S.? lol



Link Posted: 10/4/2004 11:31:37 AM EST
Can you replace the handguards on an AMD-65 kit to make them look like the reddish wood that these weapons have? If so then you could make a similar weapon system to the picture. You would just have to get an underfolder receiver from OOW and a trunnion/stock set from global trades. Then an Ultimak tube with EOTech. Then a flash hider that was long enough to meet the required 16". Hmm...

Is that all possible? Might be worth a try...
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 12:41:55 AM EST
Looks like they have really nice Russian wood furniture on these. I love the look of the Russian furniture because it has that cool red color.
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