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Posted: 9/22/2005 1:58:07 AM EDT
well, the hungarian stuff came in and they ain't AMD-63s


Any Word on anyting else?  

Rumors? Lies? Innuendo?

The ones I've heard about are the "like new" M70 Yugo kits (true?) and maybe some more FALs.

Any others?  

Feel free to let loose any gossip
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 2:00:02 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/22/2005 2:06:19 AM EDT
[#2]

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I've heard that Tennessee Guns brought in 3,000 to 5,000 AMD-63 kits in excellent condition, and they went to Centerfire.

Brand new M70 kits, both underfolder and fixed stock, are due in before the ban.



I heard the kits that Centerfire got were not AMDs but "Export" versions, IE regular AKMs.
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 3:13:53 AM EDT
[#3]
From what I heard from at friend at Century Arms, they just received 20,000 Yugo M70 (fixed and folders). They also received a large batch of yugo RPKs. They also received a buttload more of the Romanian PKMs, with a possiblity of future batch of Yugo PKMs.

ls
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 4:10:57 AM EDT
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From what I heard from at friend at Century Arms, they just received 20,000 Yugo M70 (fixed and folders). They also received a large batch of yugo RPKs. They also received a buttload more of the Romanian PKMs, with a possiblity of future batch of Yugo PKMs.

ls

Is your friend a good source
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 4:13:55 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I've heard that Tennessee Guns brought in 3,000 to 5,000 AMD-63 kits in excellent condition, and they went to Centerfire.

Brand new M70 kits, both underfolder and fixed stock, are due in before the ban.



I heard the kits that Centerfire got were not AMDs but "Export" versions, IE regular AKMs.



I ordered one two days ago and was told it was an AMD-63.  Whats the word on this?
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 4:15:40 AM EDT
[#6]
Centerfire calls them AMD63's but they aren't, they don't have the AMD style handguard or the front vertical grip.

They look like a regular AKM with a single AMD style wooden pistol grip on the back, from the pictures I've seen.
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 6:02:57 AM EDT
[#7]
Darn... I really wanted an AMD-63...  

Does anybody know if I pull the front parts off an AMD-65 I can build an AMD-63 clone out of one of those kits?  I have an AMD-65 pistol that I have thought about putting wood on so perhaps a parts swap would get me close...

It also seems like I have seen more 1919a4 and Thompson SMG parts kits available lately...  Thompsons were impossible to find in th epast and now I see them again...  Not that I want to spend the money myself...

Anybody in the know have a good source for a nice Milled AK kit to learn on?  I have a couple polish kits on the way but if I could I would like to find a nich Hungarian Milled kit as a "training build" before I touch my polish kits....  this whay I will ether learn I can do it or learn I cant before messing with my most prized AKs.
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 7:03:20 AM EDT
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Centerfire calls them AMD63's but they aren't, they don't have the AMD style handguard or the front vertical grip.

They look like a regular AKM with a single AMD style wooden pistol grip on the back, from the pictures I've seen.



The AKM export model is probably actually better for most. The AMD vertical grip is an aquired taste.
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 10:02:58 AM EDT
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Darn... I really wanted an AMD-63...  

Does anybody know if I pull the front parts off an AMD-65 I can build an AMD-63 clone out of one of those kits?



Nope, the 65 gas tube is shorter than a 63
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 3:23:37 PM EDT
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The ones I've heard about are the "like new" M70 Yugo kits (true?) and maybe some more FALs.



From what I heard, the FAL's aren't actually being imported, but were the ones seized by the ATF from PWA a while back.  Not 100% sure if it is true or not.  

www.king5.com/localnews/stories/NW_061903WABgunseized.c5d3507.html
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 4:48:27 PM EDT
[#11]
BulletBait and DDiggler,

As I stated before, I ordered what CFS calls an AMD-63.  If they're not, are they what FEG shipped in as the SA-85M before the ban on non-sporting firearms?

You guys have the info and have "seen" pics.  PLEASE fill me in because I don't expect the person taking orders to know the difference.
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 5:11:44 PM EDT
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BulletBait and DDiggler,

As I stated before, I ordered what CFS calls an AMD-63.  If they're not, are they what FEG shipped in as the SA-85M before the ban on non-sporting firearms?

You guys have the info and have "seen" pics.  PLEASE fill me in because I don't expect the person taking orders to know the difference.



There is clear info at gunco.Lois posted and stated they are not 63's.No forward grip.
They look like higher quality romys.

  spelling
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 5:23:05 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/22/2005 5:31:01 PM EDT
[#14]
Those hungarian Aks better be like new condition for $180 w/sling atleast.
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 5:48:59 PM EDT
[#15]

From Doug_H's link:

But according to court documents obtained by KING 5 News, P.W. Arms Incorporated of Redmond imported more than 16,000 FN FAL’s, but made it easy to reassemble into fully automatic machine guns that led to the seizure of nearly 8,000 gun kits from PW’s warehouse, plus computers, discs and documents earlier this week.

The court papers say P-W Arms of Redmond got them for $84 apiece while they were being advertised in gun trade magazines for 250 dollars each



What a profit margin! I've been in the wrong line of work.
8,000 FALs? Send them to my house
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 6:03:34 PM EDT
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Quoted:
BulletBait and DDiggler,

As I stated before, I ordered what CFS calls an AMD-63.  If they're not, are they what FEG shipped in as the SA-85M before the ban on non-sporting firearms?

You guys have the info and have "seen" pics.  PLEASE fill me in because I don't expect the person taking orders to know the difference.


Here ya go!



ATTENTION DARK SIDERS:  

We've got to convince Lois at CenterFire to sell these Hungarian kits with the Yugo Under Folders like they do with the Romys.

The REAL Hungarian UF looks just like the Yugo.

PICS OF A REAL SA85 UF




I would buy TWO of these!
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 6:11:06 PM EDT
[#17]
time to cruise on over to gunco and sit for a spell
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 6:14:43 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:

Brand new M70 kits, both underfolder and fixed stock, are due in before the ban.




Who will have these? Any guess on price?
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 6:51:39 PM EDT
[#19]
anyone have a link to Lois's discussion on Gunco?
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 7:32:55 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/22/2005 10:16:11 PM EDT
[#21]
I have found the perfect kit for my FEG receiver.
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 12:11:11 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:
anyone have a link to Lois's discussion on Gunco?



www.gunco.net/forums/showthread.php?t=14691



Thanks for the link.  I ordered 2 kits.  The SA85 I already have is top quality so these kits should make some good rifles.
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 2:03:20 PM EDT
[#23]
What do you guys thing about his FEG?
Significantly different enough to get one?  
Polish UF seems to be a better deal.
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 2:19:14 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
What do you guys thing about his FEG?
Significantly different enough to get one?  
Polish UF seems to be a better deal.



According to the polish mechanic down at my buddy's shop, they're better guns too.

Of course he then went on to regale me with stories of headshots on targets at 800 meters.  He's a funny guy, that Vlad.
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 2:38:41 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/23/2005 2:46:16 PM EDT
[#26]
you have got to be kidding me.....i don't know how I can do it but by God I'll try

THANKS TIM
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 4:45:50 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/23/2005 5:24:36 PM EDT
[#28]
Wow, amazing!

How many are there? Do members HERE get the $649 price?

Link Posted: 9/23/2005 5:25:39 PM EDT
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Wow, amazing!

How many are there? Do members HERE get the $649 price?




just register on the K-var forum
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 5:38:51 PM EDT
[#30]
Okay, I'm doing that. Thanks.

Oh, and I was at AIM Surplus today--they said they've got nothing else pending before the ban.


Back to these krink kits--is this a good price?
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 5:56:29 PM EDT
[#31]
I think these are reasonable....consider a final built price is the same as the yugo krinks are selling for from retailers, plus you have a chrome bore and being bulgarian it's going to be worth more
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 9:03:33 PM EDT
[#32]
So BRAND NEW M70 underfolders are going to be hitting the market soon?  I can feel my wallet getting lighter...
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 10:41:54 PM EDT
[#33]
ONLY $649 for forum members?  


I gotta get another credit card
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 8:49:33 AM EDT
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I done went and some every other gun I have to buy kits... just before the BG krinks go t here.....

I don't know how, but I'm going to try to raise the money to buy one...

DARN YOU K-VAR... !!!!

Link Posted: 9/25/2005 7:29:27 PM EDT
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Darn... I really wanted an AMD-63...  

Does anybody know if I pull the front parts off an AMD-65 I can build an AMD-63 clone out of one of those kits?



Nope, the 65 gas tube is shorter than a 63



Partially wrong...I have an AMD65 and an AMD63, yes, the AMD 65 gas tube is shorter, BUT the handguard is the same, the shorter part is up front so the handguard is the same and if you buy the kit and and pul the handguard of the AMD65 you should have an AMD63, of course I don't need to do that since I have both...whoop-tee-doo lucky me....too bad I have no $$ to puth them together  
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 10:48:19 PM EDT
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Any new news?
Link Posted: 10/6/2005 7:48:36 AM EDT
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Quoted:
tinypic.com/bg5u87.gif

Any new news?



OMG!!!  I didn't know someone made a "bumpfiring underwater" smiley!  
Link Posted: 10/6/2005 5:48:30 PM EDT
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Quoted:

Quoted:
tinypic.com/bg5u87.gif

Any new news?



OMG!!!  I didn't know someone made a "bumpfiring underwater" smiley!  


Aqua-Bump Baby!
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