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Posted: 8/21/2004 5:13:11 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/24/2004 2:28:07 AM EST by GoatBoy]
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 5:17:08 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/22/2004 3:24:54 AM EST
There's a AR side????
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[Last Edit: 8/22/2004 4:39:41 PM EST by CockedandLocked]
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Link Posted: 8/23/2004 5:13:37 AM EST

Originally Posted By Jeepcreep:
HDR ....isn't here though....he is afraid we will scan his harddrive BWHAHAHAHhahahahhahaha.....what a ma-rooon!



I, for one, don't wanna see all his gay porn!
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 7:09:03 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 7:27:17 AM EST
Numerous rumors were abound about HDR smoking pole when I was a member of Gun Goons.

Couple of guys brought it up years ago and were banned immediately afterwards.

Link Posted: 8/23/2004 10:20:39 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 11:15:04 AM EST
Delete a thread? You have to be kidding. Never.
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 11:54:31 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/23/2004 5:21:06 PM EST
w00t


#11
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 5:33:45 PM EST

Originally Posted By GoatBoy:
11k average, almost 4 times that of GunsNet... I think DTHOR/BowHunter is out there somewhere crying.

I'm actually shocked at how well things go on here without major problems every hour... that's a lot of friggen people on the site every day!


Agreed. I love the fact that the AK side here is much more relaxed. It is great to read a joke from Pave and information on the SEAK II project without having to jump around to different areas.

BTW, here's to being #11.
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 5:36:54 PM EST
numero uno
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 6:52:06 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 7:01:32 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 8:18:09 PM EST
Funny thing, I couldn't afford a SEAK. (as much as I desired one)

But they exist! Gunsnet promised and promised... (and continued to promise...)AR15.com and ORF delivered.

That "5 stars" from SGN should be retracted and redirected to the true dedicated Kalishnikov crew. I hit all the boards for fresh ideas and mods. Their site relies on newbie questions but depends on trashing their opinions with "the voices of experience" (those voices consisting of the opinions of 4 or 5 guys). What a waste of time and Dthor's ever popular reference point, "bandwidth".

Before I posted a single thread on any of these boards I searched long and hard for answers so as not to be such a "newbie". Case in point a certain poster who just scored an NHM91 for $300 bragging on Gunsnet. Seems like an o.k. fella but a simple site search that accompanies his membership there would have dug up everything he needed to research the purchase and further modifications. Why waste "valuable bandwidth" when a simple search scores the answers? Hmm..?
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[Last Edit: 8/24/2004 3:29:23 AM EST by RS39]
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[Last Edit: 8/24/2004 4:06:49 AM EST by CAMPYBOB]
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 4:41:10 AM EST
I figured I'd grab this one before it mysteriously disappeared.
This guy isn't going to last long, if he isn't banned already.
How dare he, question one of DimwiT's post's




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We're Quitters?

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Originally posted by Guns Network Staff
Those ranks don't mean much as we run their counter on our main front sign in page only. That is it and it is obvious that other websites place there counters all over there website to get more clicks. Another words they CHEAT, yeah that's the ticket. Anyways nothing new about how to out smart the counter. All we would have to do is run a counter on 10% of our 600 forums and we would be at 12,000 unique visitors in less then a day. Then build the counter into the banner program then whaala 20,000 clicks.
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That makes no sense. The counter works on unique IPs hitting the site, not clicks. That means they have 12k unique users to our 3k, no big deal they do more traffic. Our banner is on every page, as is theirs, so how is that cheating? I don't think you understand how the thing works.


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We are most likely going to take it off as it serves really no purpose, other then who has been copying what we do month after month, lol Bunch of copy cat moes... ROTFLMAO always trying to stay in step with us. It must be they ain't doing much, so we better mimic what we do maybe learn a thing or two, ha ha
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I don't see what the hard feelings are for, not to mention this site has probably borrowed a bunch of their ideas. It's probably safe to say both sites borrow ideas from each other.


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For those who do not understand what I mean above just read my signature below the one in RED, lol
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Again, I think you need to understand how the ranking system works. As a developer I'm well aware of this and the only way to fake numbers is to have people renew IP leases (annoying as hell and not often easily done) or to drive all over town and surf the site from as many pcs as possible.

There's nothing wrong with a little competition and AR15.Com is obviously a big dog with bite. Why not work to solidify a good relationship and take their AK users through content and product quality?

Quitting the ranking system does nothing but put blinders on us to ignore what the rest of the world is doing. Does it really matter in the long run, nope, but it is a nice way to gauge where we stack up against some of the biggest firearm sites.


AR4Life\AK4Ever



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08-24-2004 12:14 PM



Link Posted: 8/24/2004 4:49:30 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 5:27:10 AM EST
He needs a new sig line:

GUNS NETWORK......Never Imitated.....Often Duplicated
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 5:39:18 AM EST
I bet if they were #1 they would think the rankings were fair. I;m just glad that my membership is here and not at that site.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 5:50:33 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 5:55:20 AM EST

Originally Posted By GoatBoy:
The plot thickens!

Gunsnet accuses cheating and prepares to drop from ranking system! SURPRISE!!!

Obviously they don't want their advertisers to see how badly they are being crushed.

We don't fake online lists, we don't fake stats, we don't bullshit or lie about what we are. What you see is what you get here and in some cases it may offend, cause you to laugh, or simply annoy, but we don't hide anything. These guys are so motivated by the wrong reasons that they just can't handle fact.

Any respect or potential desire to help them out has gone out the window faster than DTHOR/Bowhunt/Admins honor. I guess it's simple for a guy who lied about his past, dishonoring vets, to call the sky black and everyone evil instead of admitting to the truth and maybe trying to work problems out. My goal is to grow this AK site and focus on stomping them into the ground!!! We'll do that with quality and we'll provide as much quality content as possible.

Cheater my ass, learn how things work ya exNavy Seal!!!!



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LOL, sometimes I do think after reading the above posts some of you all been drinking to much of the funny water and then put on these head caps proclaiming your experts in this field, lol. I mean the validity behind most of your reasonings is comical to say the least. What is that old term "don't blow smoke up my ass and call it something else". I mean come on, one would think we have been doing this long enough to know who is running the shows around the gun discussion websites and what they are capable of doing when it comes to numbers. I think some of you all have been fooled by bogus numbers and facts but what do I know right?

AR4Life, no pun guy but justifying that you are a developer does nothing for me or to your arguement as you do not know what we have done with the counter software. As a matter of fact you are showing your ignorance in thinking you know what we have done and were doing. Guys understand as much as you may want to make it look as if they are our competition but that is not going to happen. Guns Network is completely and totally a different animal. Our objectives are quite diffent and the mission of this website is heading in the opposite direction from them and most of the other gun discussion clone websites out there.

We have played with "Top Gun Sites" counter program and in the end we are not impressed as the counter can be and has been manipulated oh so easily. I mention this as we have once had huge numbers for a day only to take it out and we are not the only ones who have done this as well.

Due to other websites using our numbers for there arguements, we do not list our current total registered members. We do list our current active member as that number does not include members who have not visited the website in 30+ days.

In the end we do not play into propoganda and really why would some of you all even care, unless you have a hidden aganda maybe?!?! just kidding but one never knows these days, just makes you question deep down some of the posts above that you newbies put up.

This thread has run the course as far as I am concerned.

GNS

Link Posted: 8/24/2004 5:55:31 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/24/2004 5:59:48 AM EST by GoatBoy]
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Looks like a couple of the members are calling bullshit, and Thornton is nothing more than a big fat liar.

I am not surprised in the least bit that Thornton would lower himself to this level. After all, he is only a fake sea mammal.

I can hear it now "Shut yer cockholsters!" "I'm in charge of this circus, not you!!" "HDR, you better get my cockholster moderators busy and start deleting these threads before I fire your pole-smoking ass !!!"

Just wait till the shit hits the fan with Jokin. He's in for one big surprise. He'll never be able to afford to take that piece of shit boat in his driveway in the water again! Besides, he's too busy trying to fix that crackerbox "KB" home he lives in with the exalted "circular piece of furniture."

Stay tuned!
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 6:34:34 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 8:07:42 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 8:52:41 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 9:02:49 AM EST
Looks like ole DuhThor has deleted the thread (gee imagine that!) I can tell you from personal experience he doesn't know all that much about computers as he claims to, he's a liar (no surprise). His sponsors aren't too bright either if they seriously think he has 75,000+ active members lol. More than half are banned or have left the site. 900 people online at one time? I don't think so. Check out the who is online feature, you'll note that members stay logged in for several HOURS, so if someone stops in at 8AM then leaves for work at 8:15AM, they remain online until almost noon. Therefore, the number of users online is inaccurate. When the online users # gets low, suddenly Fred Sanford shows up. I think the following is quite a coincidence:

Fred's site
http://www.parrotheadfred.com/

DuhThor's profile at a cigar site:
http://lalunacigars.com/aspboard/viewuser.asp?name=DavidT

Once enough people have logged on to see what ole "fred" has to say, suddenly he is 'banned', yet will show up over and over again when traffic gets slow. Ironic , isn't it?

BTW, I've lurked here for quite awhile and used to post here back in the 'Drew' days (at least I think that was his handle). I don't want to give out my user name as I haven't been lucky enough to have been banned at ak-47 yet, but I can tell you all, DuhThor has screwed people over all through the net, and I'm one of them. You guys have a good site here and I hope the 'normal' people from over there make their way here. I eagerly await the day DuhThor's site goes down, there will be many cyber-parties, I'm sure. her
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[Last Edit: 8/24/2004 9:08:46 AM EST by EdAvilaSr]
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 9:04:16 AM EST
There are good people all over the net and I am a member both here and there. There is a great deal of knowledge at both these sites and many others and as a spectator I can't believe this...

Mine is bigger then yours discussion...

Now, from what I see it is the other site that is crying and they are the ones that have promoted themselves as being the biggest site on the web. Hell, I have figured we are bigger for a long time now!

I don't think it is necessary for ARFCOM to become the only place for people to hang out and while I spend far more time here I like the fact that there are other boards out there...
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 9:09:40 AM EST

Originally Posted By GoatBoy:
The plot thickens!

Gunsnet accuses cheating and prepares to drop from ranking system! SURPRISE!!!

Obviously they don't want their advertisers to see how badly they are being crushed.

We don't fake online lists, we don't fake stats, we don't bullshit or lie about what we are. What you see is what you get here and in some cases it may offend, cause you to laugh, or simply annoy, but we don't hide anything. These guys are so motivated by the wrong reasons that they just can't handle fact.

Any respect or potential desire to help them out has gone out the window faster than DTHOR/Bowhunt/Admins honor. I guess it's simple for a guy who lied about his past, dishonoring vets, to call the sky black and everyone evil instead of admitting to the truth and maybe trying to work problems out. My goal is to grow this AK site and focus on stomping them into the ground!!! We'll do that with quality and we'll provide as much quality content as possible.

Cheater my ass, learn how things work ya exNavy Seal!!!!


Why can't I read that post? I'm logged in and everything.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 9:10:25 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/24/2004 9:10:55 AM EST by Quarterbore]

Originally Posted By Gloftoe:



Why can't I read that post? I'm logged in and everything.



They deleted the thread...
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 9:52:42 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 10:44:58 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/24/2004 10:45:37 AM EST by mattld]

Originally Posted By Quarterbore:
There are good people all over the net and I am a member both here and there. There is a great deal of knowledge at both these sites and many others and as a spectator I can't believe this...

Mine is bigger then yours discussion...

Now, from what I see it is the other site that is crying and they are the ones that have promoted themselves as being the biggest site on the web. Hell, I have figured we are bigger for a long time now!

I don't think it is necessary for ARFCOM to become the only place for people to hang out and while I spend far more time here I like the fact that there are other boards out there...


Agreed.

But, DThor has continually isolated himself at every chance he gets. I feel sorry for all the people who got banned from that site simply because they decided to speak out against the horrible service that some of that site's advertisers were giving them.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 11:11:45 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 12:04:52 PM EST

Originally Posted By Sweep:
Any one that grabs a Beta-C mag and throws it into some one else's M16 and empties it without asking permission, fires down range while other people are down range checking their targets...


Are you serious?
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